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Is YSR the new ARR?

Topic started by Madhav (@ 62.7.99.59) on Thu May 24 06:16:48 EDT 2001.
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It has been mentioned on more than one occasion that YSR is the MD who will take ARR's place. YSR has produced many hit albums lately using new, fresh and funky styles of music. I believe that this statement has been proved by Yuvan after Dheena, Rishi and Thulluvatho Ilamai. When compared to ARR's recent Thenali and Star we can see that YSR has taken the lead in this race to be the best. YSR has been signed for many new and exciting projects so I can see that he will be the block in ARR's attempt to regain his position as No.1 in TFM.
What are your thoughts on this?

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• From: NagaS (@ 198.211.204.200) on: Fri Jun 1 11:06:34 EDT 2001
  
  mahabs,
  
  >>> now, you may understand why IR fans get angry!
  
  Nachch-nnu sonneenga, Thiruvaasakam !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 12.47.56.122) on: Fri Jun 1 13:09:21 EDT 2001
  
  mahabs...... very very very very good point..... does anyone have answer to what he says pls ?
  
  
• From: mediator (@ 213.122.97.91) on: Sat Jun 2 05:04:24 EDT 2001
  
  I have an answer.Mahab's you obviously don't know good music when you hear it if u think albums like Dheena and Rishi weren't good. I think YSR has produced some of the best music this year.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Jun 2 05:16:34 EDT 2001
  
  It is very stupid to compare YSR to ARR yet...quality of the songs of YSR are good but still they miss out on certain angles...it is only because of his inecperience..l
  
  ike Travis said there is room for more on the top
  
  but always remember who set the trend...it was ARR and his genius and experience helps him give an unmatched quality to his songs...even KR and YSR are not able to equal that...
  
  the problem is with the advent of the digital in music..everyone is going to end up soundling like everyone else....that's why ARR spends more time in working out his musical textures...that's what gives him the edge..
  
  so all those who are hailing YSR as replacing ARR....are either too young to appreciate the finer points of music or too immature !
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.171) on: Sat Jun 2 06:27:45 EDT 2001
  
  cosmician,
  
  Neenga ninaikkaRathe ulakam illai, By looking at your generalised conclusions, I feel you are too young and immature to think.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: mediator. (@ 213.122.96.70) on: Sat Jun 2 07:13:23 EDT 2001
  
  Well said NagaS.I couldn't have said it better.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.53) on: Sat Jun 2 09:40:17 EDT 2001
  
  "it was ARR and his genius and experience helps him give an unmatched quality to his songs..."
  
  Let me put it the other way. Whatever ARR has been doing before alone, now many are capable of doing. So if u guys still feel ARR is the best nobody can help you out...I hope u guys eventually realise and change your hard opinion...
  
  
• From: Travis (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Sat Jun 2 10:10:21 EDT 2001
  
  Now what is this replacing thing all about and why does it bring about such emotional outbursts (!) everywhere in this tfm df... AR Rahman never replaced Raja. And he never will. Same goes for every Tom, D and Harry who will rule the favor of tamil masses in years to come. They can never replace rahman, raja or for that matter even sa rajkumar. Guys, There is no "Ctrl+Z" in life. No one can undo what someone has already did. What Rahman is, cant be changed by yuvan shankar and rahman cant do what yuvan does. Period. We need all of them. Having said that, in all goodwill, I do have to add that yuvan shankar, for all purposes of argument is still a talented budding musician (unlike rahman, regardless of whether u like it or not, who has fared quite successfully in tfm for close to a decade) with few (commercial and musically) hit movies and a few good songs to his credit. Lets just hope that he continues with stuff like vayadhu vaa vaa in the coming years. and please dont dismiss people of being young and immature. Its a shameless excuse.
  
  
• From: Travis (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Sat Jun 2 10:11:48 EDT 2001
  
  IMHO is something I forgot to add.
  
  
• From: Theva (@ 64.230.155.104) on: Sat Jun 2 13:39:24 EDT 2001
  
  I'd say YSR will give strong competition to ARR and has been showin' some good stuff. You mentioned Star and Thenali of arr's latest. But you forgot to mention Lagaan, One Two Ka Four and Zubeidaa ... I haven't seen YSR quite get to dat level yet.
  
  He may ... but he's not there yet. Thulluvadho Illamai was great .. must say was nice.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Sat Jun 2 17:52:47 EDT 2001
  
  Thanks..NagaS and Mediator..Fliflo and Travis too..its nice to get bashed once in a while :)
  
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Sat Jun 2 17:56:45 EDT 2001
  
  BTW...NagaS...if you are ready..I am willing to take apart any song of YSR and a song that falls in the similar category of ARR and substantiate where YSR scores better and where ARR takes the cake...I am saying this because I don't want you to think that I'm generalizing for the heck of it or just bcos I'm a blind fan...I'm ready to get to the bottom of things...I too have my soft corners but I base all my feelings on facts as much as possible..
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Sat Jun 2 17:58:20 EDT 2001
  
  ...And I'll give credit where due instead of just making statements !
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.166.85.213) on: Sat Jun 2 18:33:22 EDT 2001
  
  Re: YSR and ARR. I think ARR is relatively more 'complex' and 'richer' in orchestration. But YSR has been able to replicate the 'above average' success rate and 'all songs listenable' feature of ARR's output. From what I hear from 'connected' people here is that YSR is very quick in composition. He probably does not want to work on the same song too much. Another strength of YSR over ARR is that all his albums sound different from each other (IMHO). Considering that he is only 21 and something I think this is very impressive. He also has a good ear for 'sound' like ARR and knows to pick the 'trendy' lyricists.
  I think this is the reason why people think he is competition for ARR, even though they may not be able to articulate all the above points.
  Also, he wants to compete with ARR unlike Harris Jeyaraj, whom I suspect, is happy to replicate ARR's sound signature.
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80) on: Sat Jun 2 20:00:12 EDT 2001
  
  kiru:
  
  ROTFL ..
  
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jun 3 00:02:34 EDT 2001
  
  Kiru...you have a point there....like u said YSR's faster compositions maybe the reason for a few drawbacks...but like I said earlier...digital music is such where sooner or later you may end up sounding like everybody else, so it may be a better idea to really work out richer textures...this will help out in the longer run...YSR is still young, so it is good that he experiments more at this stage...the numero uno position has its drawbacks !
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.166.85.213) on: Sun Jun 3 00:41:45 EDT 2001
  
  cosmician..actually YSR sounds different from ARR, Harris or anybody else. I have his poovellAm kEttuppAr CD. This is a very good album but some songs are very simple, missing any harmony layers. (I guess he did this when he was 18 or so.) Whereas ARR would randomly bring in chorus, some fancy reverb/echo..some percussion variation etc just to keep surprising people.
  
  (I dont know why vijay is laughing. Maybe he thinks I am not musically knowledgeable to know the strengths of ARR or YSR.)
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 198.211.204.200) on: Sun Jun 3 02:59:41 EDT 2001
  
  cosmician,
  I am not sure whether I am ready for such a deep analysis, I am just a plain listener, No swaram or beats knowledge :-)
  
  But the thing I wanted to stress is ... may be one song YSR scores good and another ARR does well (IMO, YSR hasn't yet given any album which is in standards or Roja or Duet which I consider as best of ARR till date)., But the point here is that YSR is improving and trying his level best to reach the top position ... I believe he has enough time., so it is not wrong when we compare him with ARR.
  
  Intention of my last post is not to bash you or ARR, Infact I used the same words that you used in a earlier posting :-) Sorry if it sounds not as intended !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: mediator (@ 62.7.98.39) on: Sun Jun 3 04:06:19 EDT 2001
  
  I would like to post my view, but please remember, this is all IMHO.
  In YSR's latest Kumudam Interview(26.4.01) He talked about his upcoming projects and views of the TFM industry. In this interview, he said that directors only back a winning horse and that he believe that there is an ever changing number 1 position..
  IMHO I believe that directors are the main cause for the turmoil in TFM.People are complaining about ARR transferring his songs from Tamil to HIndi and vice versa, but I feel that directors should not condone this sort of act. Directors are still paying ARR the highest renumeration for recycled songs, and in some cases, not even recycled, just plain copies. If they stop this, maybe ARR will stop transferring his tracks. From ARR's point of view, why should he work so hard, when directors are happy for him give them songs that have appeared in another language? I feel that ARR should stop this of his own accord for the best of TFM.I feel he has a duty to music, to produce qood quality music and not to just keep the directors happy. I personally have given up on purchasing ARR cd's because I know I will have the track somewhere else on another CD.Also maybe ARR does this due to lack of time, but if this is the case, maybe he shouldn't take on so many projects?He is after all known for his poor scheduling when it comes to handing in his tracks. He supposedly doesn't give them on time, but despite this the directors are still going back to him. I have heard people mention in previous postings that with digital music, everything starts to sound similiar after a while, so I would assume it is easier to produce than acoustic music? If this is the case, why is ARR having so much difficulty producing new and original tracks.
  YSR said in his interview, that in his latest project,Nandha, the director Bala has requested that he doesn't use any sort of modern instrument so YSR will be producing the songs for this film, using only traditional instruments. Here we will get a chance to see YSR's talent in action and I look forward to the release of Nandha. YSR has become such a fierce compettition for ARR with due reason. He works quickly and hands his projects in on time, he doesn't cost as much as ARR but the music is of the same marketablility, he music is selling just as good as ARR's now and he has captured the market.
  I feel however, that ARR has made it easy to contest his No.1 position. He should be producing even higher quality music at this time when YSR has entered the market, but instead he is just doing less than usual which I feel puzzling.
  As NagaS stated before, I don't feel YSR is No.1 right now, but he is young, and given a year or 2, he will definately take the No.1 position.
  If I have offended any ARR fans in this posting,forgive me.I meant no harm because I too am an ARR fan, but I can see that ARR is either losing his touch or is not worried anout losing his No.1 position, because I have become a YSR fan too.
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Sun Jun 3 13:41:50 EDT 2001
  
  mediator
  
  The reason he is taking all these movies is bcoz he is being forced to esp. by Pravin Kanth. I dont see anything in YSR or his family's music that will bring them close to ARR. This is also my humble and honest opinion.
  
  

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