Topic started by Gowri (@ 161.142.100.86) on Wed Feb 13 23:08:16 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
What is Contribution? It means doing some thing that has never been done before. Or playing a significant role. In Thamizh, the word that comes to mind is "puratchi."
I believe every aspect of our great Isai Gnani has been explored in this forum except for a particular genre of songs. In this particular kind of songs, Ilayaraja is the mudisoodaa mannan. No one from MSV, KVM, ARR can touch Ilayaraja in this matter.
Okay, enough of this, let me get to the matter at hand. I urge all Fans, Fanatics, Dissenters and everyone else to contribute to this thread. Let me do the Pillayar Suzhi:
1. Nethu rathiri yemma (ursurpassed description of what happened)
2. Nilaa kaayuthu (who would have thought that munungals can be put to tune)
3. Antha nilavathaan naa kaiyule pudichen (by the master himself)
4. Eduthu vach paalum virichu vacha paayum (if music can be sexy, this is it)
5. Maaman oru naal malliyapoo koduthaan (innocent but deadly)
6. Orampo orampo rukkumani vandi varuthu (no doublespeak here - every thing is direct)
7. Raathiriyil poothirukkum (what a romatic song!)
8. Vaada vaattuthu (yet another masterpiece by the master himself)
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- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.162.214)
on: Fri Mar 8 09:12:38 EST 2002
Ithu ponra paadalkal iruppathu thavaraa, illai anumathikkalaamaa?
Aiyya, athu namma kaiyileyaa irukkuthu? :)
Avar aatchi seitha kaalathil appadi irunthathu. Athai maatra entha jambuvaanulum mudiyaathu. :)
Anyway, I feel there is a very fine line between eroticism and obscenity.
Honestly, we don't know what must have been in the mind of IR and his troupe when creating such songs. :)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.70.179)
on: Sat Mar 9 09:13:47 EST 2002
At last, this thread has come to rest...
... oops! What have I done!
Hehehe :)
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sat Mar 9 11:51:43 EST 2002
Here's an interesting previous thread.
"Soodetrum Padalgal-Who is best IR or ARR?" started in Sep 97.
http://newtfmpage.com/forum/22183.15:56:42.html
It has some interesting as well as hilarious posts. But overall it approaches the topic from an entirely different angle from this thread. Here's a funny post.
"Pls pls not again. I think we had enough on ARR-IR
stuff. why dont we leave this topic alone??"
by Ramki. And this was written on Wed Sep 24 1997
:-)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.136)
on: Sun Mar 10 01:52:12 EST 2002
Gosh WhyNot..
u DO have an elephant's memory!!!
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.70.32)
on: Sun Mar 10 03:50:36 EST 2002
WhyNot
Time may change but people don't! :)
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sun Mar 10 06:48:39 EST 2002
magix, I did not locate that website by memory. I jus found it in the archives.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:20:45 EST 2002
u searched for this thing from such a loooooong list??!!
r u that vetti?
;) NOM!!
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.72)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:29:49 EST 2002
WhyNot vettiyaa? Appadinaa unnai ennaanu sollurathu?
Ozhunga poi padidaa... :)
NOM magix, I spoke to you how I would have spoken to a younger brother of mine. :)
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:38:42 EST 2002
:-)
No I wasn't searching for nothing magix. I wanted to start a new thread and was looking for older threads on the topic I was interested in when I bounced upon the thread above by accident.
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:43:57 EST 2002
I've my exams coming up in another week's time.
My TV's closed. So no other business (except for studying) but to come here.
and U sure sounded like my sister!!
ps:
WhyNot, dont let Raghu c ur last comment. Another English fight may start as long as Raghu's not from Texas.. ;)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.72)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:45:19 EST 2002
I sure hope magix was talking to WhyNot and not me! :)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:51:56 EST 2002
No I meant U whether u r a girl or not!!!!
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:53:03 EST 2002
r u?
no, i mean seriously.
coz Raghu was doing his
"He he clever girl" routine?
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.72)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:54:56 EST 2002
magix
Raghu thinks that calling a guy a girl i the height of insult.
I didn't think so, and that's why I ddin't respond to that.
Believe me magix, naanthaandaa un annan! :)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.72)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:56:58 EST 2002
let me put it more clearly :
Raghu thinks that when he addresses a guy as a girl, he is insulting him....
Nice chatting with you, but I am going to see MTV on tv now. :)
MTV is Manathai Thirudi Vittaai. :)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:57:18 EST 2002
ha ha..
and there was a time when Krishna paramaathma didnt believe i was a boy!
ROTFL(!!)
- From: magix (@ 203.199.248.38)
on: Sun Mar 10 07:59:01 EST 2002
dont.
it's not worth it!
I wasted 3 hrs of my precious time watching that movie and realised how there r better things in life!
(sounds familiar, doesnt it?)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.70.230)
on: Sun Mar 10 10:01:08 EST 2002
It is a ok movie. Highlight was P. Suseela singing "Maalai pozhuthin mayakkathile naan kanavu kanden thozhi" live for Kausalya.
If you have the time, come to http://newtfmpage.com/forum/pp.html#last
- From: Gowri (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Mar 11 01:35:53 EST 2002
A song that emotes passion without crossing the boundaries of good taste is Vaseegara. Neither the lyrics nor the music are crass. Could be because the kavignar is a lady. Kudos to Harris Jeyaraj on this wonderful effort.
- From: kozhuppu (@ 210.214.4.153)
on: Mon Mar 11 04:27:23 EST 2002
nor the music are crass Gowri ammA, can you specify samples of `music' pieces that are crass?
- From: kozhuppu (@ 210.214.4.153)
on: Mon Mar 11 04:34:24 EST 2002
appuRam, andha pAttu TVla pAkkumbOdhu nEkku crass'A pattudhu...neenga enjoy paNNELO?
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Mon Mar 11 05:38:08 EST 2002
Gowri, great example.
kozhuppu, if u want to go into picturisation, vaseegara will pale in comparison to the 70s and 80s fare.
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.61.3)
on: Mon Mar 11 07:34:57 EST 2002
kozhuppukku athigam kozhuppu thaan. :)
crass music kettu kettu, decent music-um crass music-um vithyaasam theiryaamal irukkuraar. :)
BTW, I believe even ARR (and IR in his glorious past) had any control over picturisation.
WhyNot said it correctly - see kayathu kattil in nilaa kaayuthu and learn about crass picturisation. :)
- From: Correction (@ 210.186.61.3)
on: Mon Mar 11 07:36:13 EST 2002
BTW, I believe even ARR (and IR in his glorious past) had NO control over picturisation.
- From: Gowri (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Tue Mar 12 01:39:34 EST 2002
If Vaseegara is virasam, how about the songs I listed above? Including the picturisation.
Anyway, even the picturisation of Vaseegara was not vulgar. And there is a lot of difference between vulgarity and suggestiveness.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Tue Mar 12 06:15:17 EST 2002
I agree Gowri. The picturisation for Vaseegara was a disappointment for what was expected of the song. But i wudn't call it vulgar or crass.
- From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Mar 12 07:28:25 EST 2002
..."i agree with gowri"...that shud go without saying :-))
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Tue Mar 12 07:37:12 EST 2002
why shud tat go without saying? wat r u trying to imply. and who were u quoting?
- From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Mar 12 07:58:04 EST 2002
hmm, a bouncer from whynot...i am contemplating whether to "duck" & let it pass by harmlessly or "hook" this one to a boundary or sixer :-)
- From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:12:48 EST 2002
I guess i will "duck" down for this one :-)
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.141)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:26:02 EST 2002
WhyNot is always on the side of nyaayam, neethi and tharmam. Unlike twilight_zone! :)
- From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:49:29 EST 2002
on second thoughts, i guess i am gonna go for a "boundary" or "sixer"...
Here are a recent few lyrics that i've heard. Now, were they vulgar or crass or suggestive or pure erotica? If we can rate these, then i wud know what "rating" scale is "acceptable" & is in use for this thread.
a) kattil onru "vittu vittu mettu kattum indba satham"
b) sundu viral thottadhum "andha" idam silirkka
c) ulladhellam en sondham adhai "ullangaiyyal moodaadhe"
d) parotta parotta, naan "kuthum" parotta
e) kattil kondaal enna, "otti" nindraal enna, idhil paavangal dhooshangal yaedhu?
f) dhevadhai kulitha thuligalai alli "thertham endre naan kudippen"
g) moondru mudichu podu, pinbu mutha mudichu podu, "ennai mothamaaga moodu, moodu"
h) nee "enakkul" pudhayal edukka, naanum unakkul pudhayal edukka, uyirin "aazham" sendru thedu
i)neeraaga naan irundhaal un nethiyila naan irangi, "kooraana" un nenjil kudhichi ange kudiyiruppen
j)"unnul" ennai dhinam moozhghi "aada" vidu
k) "sindhum vervai" theertham aagum
l) nee orakkannal "paarthaale" naan "pulaathaachi"
m) kayiru mela kayiru pottu haiyyo "kadayirigaa"
n) Naan mayangi "kirangavum", mayakkam thelinji "ezhumbhavum"....
o) pudhu "vellai mazhai" ingu pozhigindradhu, kollai nila "udal nanaigindradhu"
p) vayithila pulla illa, vazhkayila thollai illa, "vagaikkoru inbam" kandu jeyippom
q) vaarathukku yaezhu naalu vandhavalo naalu paeru, moonu paeru korayudhadi kanakku
r) maaman ponne "machcham" paarthu naalachu
- From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:55:46 EST 2002
dear ROTFL/Aadhavan,
"WhyNot is always on the side of nyaayam, neethi and tharmam. Unlike twilight_zone! :)"
Ayya saami ROTFL. Idhu ungallukke konjam overa theriyila? :-)
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.141)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:56:10 EST 2002
twilight_zone
Put this aside and see how ambleen, a IR fan is behaving here: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/20205.22.01.23.html
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.141)
on: Tue Mar 12 08:57:32 EST 2002
rendu vaakiyaththule ethu over, Vels? :)
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