Topic started by Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.145.160.235) on Mon Nov 11 11:08:23 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Dear Friends,
Let us vote for 'Adi Rakkamma' from THALAPATHI as our choice for the World's Top Ten Songs poll conducted by BBC!
I am suggesting this song because if in case the BBC people listen to the nominated songs, they will feel knocked out on hearing our Maestro's 150 Vioins' Strings Ensemble!
Let us all do it at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/
Yours Always Musically,
Vijay.
Maestro Ilaiyaraaja Fans Club at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilaiyaraaja
RaajaNGAHM at http://www.raajangahm.com/members.html
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- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Dec 11 04:03:55 EST 2002
AND THE WINNER IS....
VANDU EMATHAROM!
Hope Nisha Pillai who is going to announce the results in BBC news does not pronounce this way!
Bankim Chandra Chatterji (ennayum serthu )manniparaga!
Certainly the most embarassed will be Rehman himself and the Rehman fans like me at a time when a geniune effort Bombay dreams crossed the £10Ml mark.
But certainly BBC website should thank Dr.Vijay Venkatram for this maniacal hits.His "Rig" veda overshadowed by S(P)AMA veda.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 04:39:58 EST 2002
rajaG! Looks like age is catching up wit u rapidly. enna marathi...
How can I be part of the hackers gumbal??
Remember, I am not one of those forumers who get an immense pathological & emotional kick from seeing my fav MD's name at the top..;)
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 05:18:51 EST 2002
Getting caught up wit pointing fingers for poll rigging, it is being taken for granted how many genuine voters cud possibly be voting for VM. I'm sure ppl like hehehe who have been sieving thro ARRYG msgs may have noticed tat it was a general consensus among ARR fans, from the beginning, tat if anyone was interested in seeing ARR's name at the top of the polls, they'd go for CC rather than VM, as VM was not attributed to ARR then, nor is it now.
Hence, if ARR Fans were the ones rigging, they'd have gone for CC.
But leaving aside who is doing the rigging, let's concentrate on how many ppl cud possibly be involved in the rigging.
With RKT, let us say all Tamils in TN wud want to vote for it. (Grp P) [I assume this savely since, i've been made to understand in this thread tat the Hindi version of RKT was not well-received]
With VM, let's say all non-Tamil Indians across the rest of India wud want to vote for it. (Grp Q)
Let's assume the following:
i. The proportions of net users in both Grp P & Q are the same = x
ii. The proportion of the popn inclined to vote for the respective song (for RKT in Grp P & for VM in Grp Q) are of the same distribution. = y
iii. Assume tat awareness of this polls is double in TN, as when compared wit the rest of India.
iv. Neglect the popn of Tamils in other parts of India and the popn of non-Tamils within TN.
v. Assume tat the overseas Indian popn consists of the same proportion of Tamils to Non-Tamils as within India, and other parameters like net usage and inclination to vote as well as awareness of polls remain constant for both overseas Indians and local Indians. (hence including them wud not make any significant difference to our ratio)
From 2001 popn census,
Tot popn of India: 1,027,015,247
Tot popn of TN = size of Grp P = 62110839.x.y
Hence, size of non-Tamil Indians = size of Grp Q = 964904408.x.y
Applying the awareness of the polls factor, we half the size of Grp Q: 482452204.x.y
Hence, the ratio of Grp P to Grp Q = 13:100.
Hence, if the intensity of poll rigging was to be uniform in Grp P and Grp Q, then the size of RKT shud be 13/100 the size of VM on the BBC pie chart. [Remember, I made quite drastic assumtions like NO Non-Tamils wud want to vote for VM, and tat only half the % of non-Tamil Indians r aware of the polls as are Tamil Indians.] However, the current ratio of the RKT to VM ratio looks well over 1:2. Which means the current intensity of poll rigging which underwent for RKT is about 4 times the rigging which went on for VM.
Hence, everytime someone accuses rigging behind VM, we're in fact facing allegations that 4 times as much rigging went on for RKT.
Hence, if we go by rajaG's theory tat poll rigging is done only by the unemployed, for every one unemployed patriotic non-Tamil Indian, there are 4 unemployed IR fans. (tho I disagree it's unemployed who's doing the rigging, probably computer professionals who sit infront of the comp the whole day).
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Dec 11 05:36:09 EST 2002
Gasp!Gasp!
Mathematics,Statistics,Permuatation,Combination,equation,intersection,correlation,regression,population,sample,distribution,poisson,chi-test,set theory,Matrix,Tan(theeta),Cos(theeta),binomial,polynomial,Simulataneous,quadratic,assignment,Simplex,tangent,right angle,hypotenuse,a+(n-1)d!
(Ada!ethuve oru RAP mathiri irukulle?)
Naan varla intha vilayttukku!But i got the idea- onegroup is FOUR-father to other group!!!
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67)
on: Wed Dec 11 05:36:22 EST 2002
WN are you doing PHD in Australia ..what's this.? I am totally taken aback...Better save a copy of this as you might have to post it again to explain many lots here when they wake up late in the day.
- From: geeth (@ 213.121.246.138)
on: Wed Dec 11 06:16:57 EST 2002
Info from the BBC site says the choice of the world is distributed as,
Americas - Rakkamma Kaiyya thattu by Illayaraja
Africas - Rakkamma Kaiyya thattu by Illayaraja
Middle East - Ana wa Laila by Kazem El Saher
Asia - Vande Mataram by Various Artists
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Dec 11 06:31:19 EST 2002
Yeah!Bush was humming "Jangu Chakku" the other day and Saddam mistook it for a new name to B-52 and said sorry to Kuwait.
Mugabe was singing "vayaye thekkanum thambi joraga" and British farmers ran for their life.
At Lagos ,Obsanjo was singing "Muthamma mutham sindhu"and the Miss world contest moved to London.
Geeth..you are so sweet but dangerously innocent!
- From: Prabhu(still reeling...) (@ 203.124.139.195)
on: Wed Dec 11 07:19:31 EST 2002
WN, Ph.D pattam venum, avlothaane? thanthidrome!
Adhukku poi ippidi oru genocide ah??
- From: geeth (@ 213.121.246.138)
on: Wed Dec 11 08:22:38 EST 2002
OISG,
Saddam said sorry by singing Ana wa Laila !
Do you know what the North Koreans are singing ?
Your comments on me - sweet too.
- From: malar (@ 204.27.156.146)
on: Wed Dec 11 08:59:01 EST 2002
OISG why do you think it is not possible for an American to like Rakkamma....At first(when I was naive enough not to believe rigging and cheating) I asked so many of my American friends to listen to the songs........most of my friends liked RKT.......so it is not impossible for someone in America or Africa to like the song(if they luv music) unless they also have (just)the kick to see their man on top or to bring somebody down....
Do you seriously think it was Vijay Venkatram who started all this rigging........it is just ARR fans urge to bring RKT down..........they knew they cant bring CC to top ...so they brought RKT down....I even know some guys who voted for Sir Cliff Richard(without knowing who he is).....ellam tamil nandu kathai than
- From: sabesan (@ 139.76.65.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 09:04:32 EST 2002
malar - u r wrong.... only IR fans do the rigging and whatever ugly stuff..... ARR fans are very very decent :-).... they don't know anything called "rigging" or whatever..... vaazhga JanaNayagaaam :-(.....
- From: malar (@ 204.27.156.146)
on: Wed Dec 11 09:11:54 EST 2002
Sabesan,if your assumption is correct then RKT should be leading the poll not VM....for one IRF,there are two ARRF doing hard work seeing VM to top....
- From: sabesan (@ 139.76.65.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 10:17:31 EST 2002
cha cha.... they are not ARRfans.... they are all "PATRIOTIC" INDIANSbaaa.... edhu koodaa ungalluku therialaaa.... enna malaar, pongaaa....
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Dec 11 10:38:35 EST 2002
WN
>>. (tho I disagree it's unemployed who's doing the rigging, probably computer professionals who sit infront of the comp the whole day).<<
haha good one, in fact I am one of them, today, I am really bored not many interesting threads!
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 203.106.162.225)
on: Wed Dec 11 10:58:35 EST 2002
Sabs
Even in this thread we have a couple of ARR fans who have voted/called for RKT.
Show me ONE IR fan who has voted for any ARR song.
I rest my case.
- From: sabesan (@ 139.76.65.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 11:22:33 EST 2002
Aalavandhaan.... what is ur point :-).....
my point is "RIGGING" was done by ALL the fans here.... initially the ARR fans were complaining - saying it looks bad blah blah.... and suddenly they were quiet when VM came first.... (iam not asking them to respond).... i remember reading one comment "wow, RKT leading by a huge margin, comeon, this is ridiculous" and now i see that VM has overtaken the "ridiculous"ness.... and i remember reading another comment saying that ARR fans never indulged in rigging....
so my point was the "ugliness" is equally there everywhere.... so don't try to "polish" one set of fans as DECENT and others as "ugly" or whatever.....
and as far as ARR fans voting for RKT or anyone else voting for VM - man, u know my opinion on this..... am least bothered....
- From: Maverick (@ 192.128.166.68)
on: Wed Dec 11 11:29:43 EST 2002
yaaraavathu EST timezone la irukkareengalaapaa intha thread la ?
- From: sabesan (@ 139.76.65.132)
on: Wed Dec 11 11:36:52 EST 2002
yes Maverick - why ?????
- From: malar (@ 204.27.156.146)
on: Wed Dec 11 11:43:21 EST 2002
I agree it is both IR and ARR fans doing the rigging.....When I asked not to insult the great musician(by this i mean IR(ofcourse)) by rigging,i was asked to shut up....I did..... it is not a poll for best song anymore........it is a poll to find out "who has lots of time to rig n cheat" ( in other words, yaru niraya vettiya irukka....IR fans illa ARR fans.........)
>>PATRIOTIC" INDIANSbaaa
adade dhesiya otrumaiyila kalanthugama poitomonnu guitltya feel panna vachiteenga ponga
- From: malar (@ 204.27.156.146)
on: Wed Dec 11 11:44:08 EST 2002
me too Maverick
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