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Psychology of transition

Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on Tue Dec 9 21:31:08 EST 1997.
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• From: peeps (@ 63.170.224.57) on: Thu Feb 15 10:47:38 EST 2001
  
  Filflo,
  Thanks once again.Just now i posted and when i refreshed to c my message i was surprised see ur message also..We are writing at the same time i think...
  
  
• From: Shankar T (@ 206.222.96.195) on: Thu Feb 15 10:52:49 EST 2001
  
  Peeps,
  I think you wrote my story. BTW, which school did you go to in CBE?
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Thu Feb 15 14:41:35 EST 2001
  
  eppadi sanda podama ivalavu pesinaga??
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ 205.227.43.12) on: Thu Feb 15 17:10:06 EST 2001
  
  possibly everyone is in good mood after Valentine's day?!
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.5) on: Thu Feb 15 18:30:39 EST 2001
  
  peeps:
  
  Like several other postings in this thread, your
  detailed personal happenings was right from
  the heart. Thanks for sharing them here with us.
  
  kk & nakkeeran:
  
  indha thread-ai start paNNiyavar nalla nEraththildhAn
  idhai ArambiththirukkavENdum. avar dishum dishum
  expect paNNinAlum adhu nadakkalai. This is one
  thread that will always remain sane.
  
  I hope more postings like that from peeps will
  come by. Ramesk K.. I look forward to yours.
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ 205.227.43.15) on: Thu Feb 15 19:44:16 EST 2001
  
  sk,
  my intention was not seeing fight here either. even I wish that many people post their views.
  
  BTW, are you the one that started this thread?
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Thu Feb 15 20:21:43 EST 2001
  
  My babysitters said my babyhood fav was 'annakili unna theduthe'. Its true Iam not kidding. Not a surprise I turned in to IR fan!.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on: Thu Feb 15 23:58:15 EST 2001
  
  Shankar T,
  School???I did my B.E(Electronics) in Coimbatore Institute of Technology.
  sk,
  Thanks for ur comment.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on: Mon Feb 19 00:30:45 EST 2001
  
  yaravathu post pannungappa...kashtapattu intha threada Archiveslairunthu kondu vanthathu wasta poidum polirukuthey???
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Feb 19 04:17:50 EST 2001
  
  peeps
  
  naanirukka bayamen:-)) seekkirame en kathaiyai postugiren
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on: Mon Feb 19 04:49:07 EST 2001
  
  aaha..romba nadri cram....appidiye unga peyar(cram) karanathayum konjam sollidunga..:-) :-)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Feb 19 09:37:37 EST 2001
  
  peeps
  
  intha kelviyai niraiya per kettachchu. naanum badhil solli aluththachchu:-)) what's in a name? a rose by any other smells as sweet, and cram smells sweetest to me.
  will be back soon.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on: Tue Feb 20 06:10:53 EST 2001
  
  cram,
  Ayayoo..theriyama ketutaen..enaa mannichuttaennu rendu varthai sollungalaen..pleazzzzzzzzzzz..:-)
  
  
• From: CK (@ 203.197.134.131) on: Tue Feb 20 12:15:35 EST 2001
  
  Transition is fate and the order of the day. But golden tunes of G Ramanathan, Subbaraman, MSV TKR, KVM and golden voices like Sirkali Govindarajan, TMS, PB Srinivas, AM Raja are beyond time scales and stand the test of time. They enchant all generations alike. All other music on the way after that is 'on transit'
  
  
• From: RV (@ 209.157.48.1) on: Tue Feb 20 15:07:43 EST 2001
  
  I used to be a frequent visitor of TFM page in the days gone by and I wrote about my experiences in the first page of this thread. Just to spare the trouble of going back and referring to these postings, I will summarize it here.
  
  I was a hard-core IR fan in the early eighties who transitioned into a hardcore MSV-TKR/GR fan later. I still prefer songs from 50s and 60s, but I think IR is a genius.
  
  The transition I would like to talk about now is about Deva. I hated Deva. Very bad songs, mostly copied. But I have to acknowledge that he has made the "gana" form come alive for me. I was out of TN by the time gana became popular. Sevaral of his gana songs - especially "Ootthikinu Kadicchukkalam" are really great! From an opinion of "Deva sucks big time" I have transitioned into "Has a genius for gana songs and can produce decent songs (Nerukku Ner, for e.g.) if he tries."
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Feb 21 05:54:44 EST 2001
  
  rv
  
  deva merely popularised the gaana. it was not his creation, nor are many of his gaana songs. in fact, oothikkinu kadichchukalaam is a direct lift of a 50s song that goes "aaduvome paaduvome".
  i agree with you in that he can produce original melodious numbers too, if the director is insistent.
  
  
• From: rv (@ 209.157.48.1) on: Wed Feb 21 17:50:39 EST 2001
  
  cram: Aaduvome Paduvome? Never heard this song. Any details?
  
  And of course, Deva didnt invent Gana. I remember a movie called Thalai vasal in which I first heard Gana and another song called "Vetthilai Potta Shokkile". He has "merely" taken an existing genre of music and popularized it. I wouldnt underrate that, though. AR Rahman uses the "savu molam" a lot; GR used Carnatic music a lot. I dont beleive using an existing genre of music lessens a music director's acheivement in any sense.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.22) on: Fri Feb 23 02:26:04 EST 2001
  
  As far as my memory goes, it was Balabharathy who formally launched the gana genre in TFM with Thalai Vaasal, which had lots of small gana pieces interspersed all through the movie. When Aadityan used a techno gana like 'vethala potta' some chennai gana singer claimed Aadityan had copied his original composition.
  
  Gana still remains a wierd phenomenon in Tamilnadu. While in hindi gana means just a song, its a genre in tamil!
  
  And 'aaduvime pallu paaduvome, aanantha suthamthiram adainthuvittome' doesnt seem to have any resemblance to 'oothikinu kadichukalaam'. This song from Ninaivirukkum Varai was indeed very catchy, good one by deva! Deva's transition to top class makers like Vasanth resulted in aasai and nerukku ner. Aasai was defnitely a result of lot of hard work and a lot of spanking by Vasanth. Given a good director I think Deva can deliver the goods very well.
  
  Surprisingly, I consider the song 'ee manase' from the telugu movie 'Tholi Prema' (dubbed in tamil as 'Aanantha Mazhai') as Deva's best IMO. Fantastic number, very unDeva-like. But hats off to him! I wonder why he reserved it for a telugu movie!
  
  Incidentally the picturisation of this song has terribly inspired Sundar C for his Ullam Kollai Poguthey number 'en kaadhali pokindral'. Even the tune is sort of similar!
  
  --Karthik
  
  
• From: cram (@ 202.9.163.103) on: Sat Feb 24 09:32:27 EST 2001
  
  karthik
  
  the "aaduvome paaduvome" song that i have referred to is not the one you have mentioned.
  
  

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