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thiruvasakam in symphony

Topic started by Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 67.83.146.59) on Mon Apr 7 15:33:24 EDT 2003.
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http://www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com/v_eng.htm#8a

Official audio release from Ilaiyaraaja.

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• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.9.91) on: Tue Nov 9 23:02:18 EST 2004
  
  SOmething to share from Illayraaja yahoogroups ...
  
  Thanks crvenky !!!!
  
  http://www.stephenschwartz.com//ubbthreads/showflat.php?
  Cat=&Board=askstephen&Number=3252&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart
  =1
  
  Last night, at Sony Studios in New York City, I had the pleasure of
  hearing the almost-finished mix of Ilayaraaja's amazing work. It is
  unlike anything I've ever heard before, a stunning blend of Indian
  and Western music and instruments. I asked Mr. Raaja if this was
  something different for him too, and he said he had never done
  anything like this piece before. I don't know if anyone has. So I
  believe those of you looking forward to this are in for a great
  treat. The section to which I contributed English words is about
  twenty minutes long and dovetails back and forth between Mr. Raaja
  singing in Tamil and an American singer singing in English, plus
  there is a large and beautifully produced chorus. Mr. Raaja's
  orchestrations are superb, and the recording engineer, Richard King,
  has done a spectacular job sonically. I felt so very proud to be a
  small part of this project.
  
  Mr. Raaja is a pleasure to work with, in answer to your question. He
  is a quiet and gentle personality, always smiling and encouraging,
  which can make one forget what a musical genius he is. He was
  extremely clear with me about what he wanted me to do in
  translating/paraphrasing the Tamil text, what portions of Manikka-
  Vacagar's poem he wished me to emphasize, and what the deeper
  meanings were. When he wanted revisions, he was again very clear and
  helpful as to what adjustments he felt needed to be made to
  accomplish his vision. The people Mr. Raaja surrounds himself with,
  at least those it was my pleasure to meet, are also unfailingly
  positive personalities. The entire project for me has been an
  enjoyable and fascinating experience from beginning to end, and I
  feel extremely lucky to have been asked by Mr. Raaja to participate.
  
  I hope this answers some of your questions, and I believe I can
  promise you with confidence you are in for a major treat when you
  hear Thiruvasakam in Symphony.
  
  Sincerely, Stephen Schwartz
  
  
  
• From: SSSSAV (@ 66.57.14.197) on: Tue Nov 9 23:17:12 EST 2004
  
  This has already been updated here some 12 hours ago,"Mr.MR!
  Still, it is sweet!
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.9.91) on: Tue Nov 9 23:22:41 EST 2004
  
  Oh ....Yes !!
  SSSAV ,
  Is raaja coming for any public meeting of fans ..Please inform us atleast 2 weeks before ( i know it will be tough to plan ..) so that people like me who live in IOWA ,can plan ahead ...
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.9.91) on: Tue Nov 9 23:27:05 EST 2004
  
  SSSAV ,
  60 minutes of music ..!!!!! Thats just superb ....will it include anyother thing like introduction speech or so ?
  
  Sherlock Homes vida more suspense a irukku
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.134.219) on: Tue Nov 9 23:59:59 EST 2004
  
  Gyan/SSAV, agreed that India is still the major market, but states outside of TN could prove to be more problematic in this name business. For an average Mumbaiite say, neither "Thiruvasagam" nor "symphony" would make much sense :-) But I am all for the original title. What I suggested was an addendum( maybe the English equivalent could ALSO be mentioned in the cover, certainly not in place of the wordThiruvasagam)
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 68.75.177.101) on: Wed Nov 10 00:05:34 EST 2004
  
  MumbaiRamki, speaking of Sherlock Holmes, i just found DVDs of Jeremy Brett as Sherlokc Holmes. Unbeatable acting and suspense. Rightful comparison, i say.
  
  vijay, you said average Mumabaiite? ;---) for them, everything is going to make sense pretty soon. i can tell you that much.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.134.219) on: Wed Nov 10 00:12:12 EST 2004
  
  well, just now read SSav's writeup in TIS site. Looks like IR himself has anwered my query :-)
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  "..This is not Thiruvaasakam in Symphony but Thiruvaasakam by Ilaiyaraaja. Raaja told us to make it known to the general public that the format of this musical is called an oratorio wherein the religious scripture Thiruvasakam is elaborately set to music, in choruses with an orchestral accompaniment. So, the CD cover & sleeve will bear the “THIRUVASAKAM BY ILAIYARAAJA” label and not TiS!!
  "
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  Thats the end of that issue right there.
  
  Kudos to TIS-USA team for all their efforts!
  SSSAV, good recap of last week's events as well
  
  Hope we get to hear it soon.
  
  SSAV, does Fr.Gasper have a separate email id? One of his mail IDs bounced. I sent a list of music colleges/depts etc. in USA to thiruvasakam@hotmail.com. Not sure whether it reacvhed him. Wondering whether there is any other id to reach him
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 68.75.177.101) on: Wed Nov 10 00:36:26 EST 2004
  
  [Nov 5] - The D-DAY!! The first cut of the entire recording of TiS was ready late in the evening and when Richard King played it in the studios in front of Ilaiyaraaja, Karthik Raaja, Brian McKenna, VP of Sony Music and a few other guests, there was so much emotion and ovation all around (with a few sighs of relief from us too!!). Ilaiyaraaja was given a copy of this CD for him to listen and make any technical corrections before the final master copy is produced and mailed to him (by the end of this week).
  
  
  SSSSAV, any subjective view of the pulse around, was there oohs and aahs. First of all, did they all really get a grip on the flow, the structure, patterns, etc.... of the compositions?
  
  Who was the most excited there? What is your personal opinion in comparison to film songs (now i am listening to Anthapurathil Oru Maharajan from Deepam, the prelude 5 sec violins still continue to just preplex me. - 5 secs vs. 5 minute songs vs 60 mins - I am just totally blown away!!!!! I am sure there is a lot that can overwhelm them in a steady fashion.)
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.9.90) on: Wed Nov 10 00:41:59 EST 2004
  
  For an average Mumbaiite say, neither "Thiruvasagam" nor "symphony" would make much sense ??
  
  Have u ever seen the crowd in Tata Opera Hall When the Mumbai Orchestra performs ..I went once for a Mahler SYmphony ,and it was a full house !!Tata Opear Hall is teh biggest Opera Hall in India ,i SUppose ....
  
  if you publicize it correctly ,crowds will come for sure in Mumbai ..!!!!!! They may not come if you say Mr.Ramki ( i did'nt wnat to offend some other's name ) is going to conduct this ..Instead if you say Mr.Joesph Franklin of Iran is going to conduct ,they will pour in ...
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 68.75.177.101) on: Wed Nov 10 00:42:25 EST 2004
  
  SSSSAV, thanks for the midnite update in tis-usa.com . you all must be in real celeberatory mood this past weekend. I "want" this album to be nothing less than a phenomenon first internally by word of mouth spreading from Sony Studios to say, Chicago Symphony to Hollywood in a matter of few days. Then, I expect IR must get the inspiration to think of another one this time with Karthik Raaja as well giving tracks!!!!
  
  However, I am puzzled by the turn of name events - Symphony not? Chorus? Is this some broadway musical, then ;---))))) Just kidding.
  
  Can someone write a book on this entire event since August 2003? and sell it along with the CD, etc..?
  
  Please feed us thirsty souls with more news in the next few days, if possible.
  
  
• From: CSS (@ 68.35.128.207) on: Wed Nov 10 01:35:05 EST 2004
  
  Wow! just reading Schwartz' writeup of the album makes my spine tingle with exicitement.
  
  Though I am dying to get my hands on it, I hope they delay the release till it has been marketed enough.
  
  Not just mumbaiites, huge crowds have come for zubin mehta and yanni performances, I guess its just the star value attached to it. So if somebody big conducts this, it will be a huge hit.
  
  
• From: SSSSAV (@ 199.90.34.67) on: Wed Nov 10 10:17:44 EST 2004
  
  Thank you, friends, for your compliments.[just keep sending!!! :-)]
  That report was sort of an official thanking and farewell note and my detailed personal experience will follow shortly! Please give me a day to recall and recollect my memories!
  Thank you!
  YIA!!
  
  
• From: Gyan (@ 68.75.177.101) on: Wed Nov 10 11:05:54 EST 2004
  
  CSS ;---), tell me a greater star than IR? a greater conductor than IR? (a conductor who can compose, orchestrate, conduct, mix ones' own mind-boggling compositions is the greatest music maker-conductor-composer-etc-etc.. ever)
  
  let us put all those show biz guys where they belong and give the true creators their due. look at the substance instead of the form, for a change. when people develop their brains to look past the superficial into the content, then there will be harmony everywhere. i insist ;---))))
  
  
• From: SSSSAV (@ 199.90.34.67) on: Wed Nov 10 11:39:35 EST 2004
  
  Check this out!
  http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/g_oratorio.html
  YIA!!
  
  
• From: selva (@ 195.10.45.138) on: Wed Nov 10 12:07:12 EST 2004
  
  Oratorio is it? I used to wonder if IR was going to use a fusion of Gregorian chants and Vedic chants for the verses of Thiruvasagam. Vedic chant was used quite well in Nothing But Wind and so was quite eager to hear an extended version in TIS. Don't know much about Oratorio, so will be a good treat to hear it for the first time with our own native tamil flavour. will certainly starve myself before this main course is served.
  
  
• From: Sai (@ 168.38.103.168) on: Wed Nov 10 12:09:41 EST 2004
  
  Dr.SK and SSSAV,
  Thanks for updating in detail in TIS and the short and sweet recap .. from 2003 to date...
  
  I like to sahre some thing here...
  
  I was travelling with Dr.SK from NC to Yogaville .. we were listening to tamil movie songs ... and he was playing one CD which has, I think the moview name is KadalOvium ... followed by KadaloraKavidaigal..
  last song of KO in that cd is Dham Dham Da Namb Da Dham by SPB and next song was Adi Aathadi from KK by S.J ... DR.SK said after the last KO song and when Adi Athadi was playing.. nalla virundu sapitu .. super payasam kudutha eapdi irukumao ... apadi iruku...
  
  Now I think we can get not payasam but nectar in the form of Thiruvasagam by ONE and ONLY IR
  
  

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