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Kannadhaasan Vs. Vairamuththu TFM Symposium Topic 9: Kadhaikku Porundhiya Paadalgal (situational songs)

Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Wed Sep 9 14:25:22 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

For a good understanding of how to approach this ongoing symposium, please refer to the thread, "Kannadhaasan Vs. Vairamuthu TFM Symposium Topic 1:Iyarkai Varnanai" before you post. Let me reiterate that this is not a patti mandram, but a research symposium.
Please show TFM examples of both poets with regards to just their Kadhaikku Porundhiya Paadalgal(situational songs) for this thread.
Please provide the name of the song whose lines you excerpt and the name of the movie if known. Here are the symposium categories, the bold topics are yet to be discussed:
1)Iyarkai Varnanai
2)Kaadhal Paadalgal
3)Thaththuva Paadalgal
4)Vaarthai Prayoagam
5)Nagaichchuvai Paadalgal
6)Samudhaaya Seerthirutha / Puratchi Paadalgal
7)Vingyaana/Naveena Karuthoottum Paadalgal
8)Ilakkiya Moolam Ulla Paadalgal
9)Kadhaikku Porundhiya Paadalgal(situational songs)
10)Kavidhai Milekarkal (Poetic Milestones that the poets will be remembered by!)

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• From: Pattabiraman (@ proxyg.emirates.net.ae) on: Thu Sep 10 09:32:09 EDT 1998
  
  I realy do not understand why people of comparing
  mount everest and madras parangi malai
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-wj034.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Sep 10 10:29:25 EDT 1998
  
  kaNNadhAsan--KB's kAviyath thalaivi
  
  Hero goes abroad for higher studies. Heroine is forced to marry a rogue who deserts her with a child. She becomes a singer-dancer in Hyderabad to support herself and her child. Hero returns from abroad and tries to track her down with no luck. A friend takes the hero to watch her dance in an attempt to cheer him up. She realizes who is in the audience and sings the following song from behind the semi-transparent curtains. The song tells her entire story; the scene ends with the shocked hero finding out who she is.
  
  nalam kEtka vanthaayO - illai
  sugam kaaNa vanthaayO?
  mukam paarkka vanthaayO - illai
  en kathai kEtka vanthaayO?
  en kathai kEtka vanthaayO?
  
  peN paarththa maappiLLaikku kaNNeerum theriyavillai
  kaNNeeril kathai ezuthi sonnaalum puriyavillai
  
  maalaiyitta paaviyidam manjaLukku makimaiyillai
  maanamuLLa paavaiyena vaaza oru vaazkkaiyillai
  kattilukku kadan koduththaaL thottilukku vilai koduththaaL
  kattaLaiyil piRantha piLLai kaaval kaaNa vaazukinRaaL
  
  kungumaththil vaaznthirunthaal maNdapaththil vElai illai
  kOvilukkuL theyvamillai vaasalukku veLiyil vanthaaL
  pottu vaiththu alangariththaaL punnakaiyil poy vaLarththaaL
  pattavarai pOthumenRu paattu paada sabai pukunthaaL
  paattu paada sabai pukunthaaL
  
  Only kaNNadhAsan can write songs such as this where he becomes a screenplay writer too!
  
  kaNNadhAsan--A.P.Nagarajan's Thillana MohanambaL
  Situation: She is a Bharat Natiyam Dancer in love with a nadhaswara vidhwan. She is under orders from mean Mom not to talk to him even though they have to give a performance togeher. He is recovering from a knife wound which starts bleeding profusely as he starts playing. She stops her dance, takes a step toward him to find out how he feels, restrained by Mean Mom again, so talks to him through this song. Song: nalamthAnA
  nalamthAnA nalamthAnA
  udalum uLLamum nalamthAnA
  
  kaN pattadhO undhan mEniyilE
  puN pattadhO adhai nAnaRiyEn
  puN patta sEdhiyaik kEttavudan--indha
  peN patta pAttai yAr aRivAr?
  
  nadandhadhellAm maRandhiruppOm
  nadappadhaiyE ninaiththiruppOm
  kadandhadhellAm poRuththiruppOm
  kAlam mARum sandhippOm!
  
  Simple words full of feelings! Who else but kaviyarasar...?!
  
  kaNNadhAsan--K.Shankar's AlayamaNi
  Situation: Hero suffers from a deep-rooted, pathological possessiveness and obsession from a young age; as a child he murders his best friend for the sake of a doll he desires and is still suffering from that guilt. When he suspects his fiancee to be in love with his best friend, his possessiveness becomes murderous rage and he tries to push the friend off a cliff. Imagine his shock when he is told that his fiancee is the friend's ex-girlfriend and the friend made a sacrifice for his sake! He jumps off the cliff himself, is saved by some fisherman, has a chance to contemplate the meaning of life and finally comes to terms with Life and himself. The following song shows his joy and exhilaration at finally exorcising the "beast within" and achieving total peace. Song: satti suttadhadA
  
  pAdhi manadhil dheivam irundhu pArththuk koNdadhadA
  meedhi manadhil mirugam irundhu Atti vaiththadhadA
  Atti vaiththa mirugam inRu adangi vittadhadA
  amaidhi dheivam muzhu manadhil kOvil koNdadhadA
  
  eRumbuththOlai uriththup pArkka yAnai vandhadhadA
  nAn idhayath thOlai uriththup pArkka gnAnam vandhadhadA
  piRakkum munnE irundha uLLam inRu vandhadhadA
  manam shAnti shAnti shAnti enRu Oivu koNdadhdA
  
  Only kaNNadhAsan can take a movie situation like this, get into the appropriate Upanishadic verses/philosophy, depict the conflict between the Ego and SupremeBeing within, take it to a higher plane and make it into a meaningful song for the masses to identify with!
  
  More later...
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-wj034.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Sep 10 10:30:28 EDT 1998
  
  Oops, correcting italics
  
  
• From: muthax (@ client209-42-213-93.intrex.net) on: Thu Sep 10 13:52:48 EDT 1998
  
  kadhaiku porundhiya thiraipada paadal patri sindhikayil ninavukku varubavai.....
  
  Nenjil or Aalayam
  
  Hero(Kalyan Kumar) decides not to marry after his ex-lover(devika) married another guy(muthuraman).
  He wants to Arpanuchufy himself to the medical field and constructs a big cancer institute. When he finds that devika has come to his hospital for muthuraman's treatment he is reminded of his love and one night he sings this song
  
  Sung by A.L.Raghavan
  
  "engirundhaalum vaazhga
  un idhayam amaidhiyil vaazhga
  manjal manathudan vaazhga
  un mangala kungumam vaazhga
  
  Varuvai ena naan thanimayil nindren
  vanthathum vanthathai thunai udan vanthai
  thunai varai kaakum kadamayum thanthai
  thooyavalae nee vaazhga
  
  etriya deepam nilai pera vendum
  irunda veetil oli vara vendum
  potrum kanavan uyir pera vendum
  pongamagale nee vaazhga"
  
  there is one more stanza which is not in the record(LP) which i used to have and never got that line whenever i watched on the Oliyum Oliyum :))
  
  Muthuraman asks Devika to wear the wedding saree and at that time she sings this song...
  
  "Enna ninaithu ennai azhaithayo?
  yenn indha kolathai koduthayo?
  munam irundha nilai ninaithyo?
  mugathay paarthukola thudithayo?
  
  also my all time favourite in solo female is
  
  Maalai pozhuthin mayakathilae naan
  kanavu kanden thozhi
  
  
  i can complete these songs once i reach home :))
  This song from the movie palaivana cholai
  clearly depicts the heroine's situation.
  when she(suhasini) senses that hero(chandrasekar) is attracted towards her she sings this song
  My all time Vanijayaram favourite
  
  Megamae Megamae paalnila theyuthae
  megamae theyinum thenmozhi veesuthae
  
  Thanthi illa veenai suram tharumo?
  puyal varum velayil poovukku suyamvaramo?
  paavayin raagam sogangalo?
  noolalai podum kolangalo
  
  thoorigai erigindra pothu
  indha thaalgalil ethum ezhudhadhu
  dinam kanavu enadhunavu
  vidhai puthithu
  nilam pazhadhu
  enakoru malar maalai nee vaanga vendum
  athu etharko....
  
  megamae megamae...
  i very much like the line
  Puyal varum velyail poovukku suyamvaramo
  suhashini is a cancer patient (or is it TB??) in this movie.
  uuufff vairamuthu vin varigal intha padal.
  Ippothaikku ivalvuthan key panna mudinjathu
  bye for now.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ sf-dnpqh-058.compuserve.net) on: Thu Sep 10 16:46:34 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana.thanks for the full lyrics of "Kaanavantha Kaatchi enna". One can never run out of KD's songs that fit a situation well be it an estranged wife thinking of her husband,
  
  Kaathal Chiragai kaatrinil virithu
  vaana veediyil parakkava
  kannil niraintha kanavanin maarbil
  kanneer kadalil kulikkava
  
  (The height of kavithuvam is
  
  ennangalaale paalam amaithu
  iravum pagalum nadakkava),
  
  an elder brother disgusted with the rest of his brothers and in general the superficiality in relationships
  
  annan ennada thambi ennada avasaramana ulagathile
  The disgust is very clear in
  
  vazhum nalile koottam koottamai vanthu sergirar
  parada
  kai varanda veettile udaintha paanayai mathithu
  vanthavar yaarada
  
  The same message is evident in
  Aadum varai aattam
  aayirathil naattam
  koodi varum koottam
  kolli varai varuma ?
  
  Paanayile soriruntha poonaigalum sonthamada
  sothanayai pangu vecha sontham ille bandam ille
  
  In situations where the character (kathaparthiram) in question needs solace and encouragement...
  
  The song "Mayakkamaa kalakkamaa". The lyrics are very popular and I do not see the need to write it. Another example is when karnan has been offended, his wife attempts to console him inthe song
  Kannukku kulam ethu
  karunaikku inam ethu
  vinnukkul pirivethu
  .......... ( I forgot the line. Inputs are welcome)
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-tp012.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Sep 10 17:09:02 EDT 1998
  
  Sriram, you are welcome. Agree with you about kaNNadhAsan's unmatched(IMO) prowess as a poet who can enhance a movie situation. The karNan song you've mentioned happens to be one of my PS favorites [in fact, all karNan songs happen to be my favorites.] Here are the complete lyrics:
  
  kaNNukkuk kulamEdhu kaNNA
  karuNaikku inamEdhu
  viNNukkuL pirivEdhu
  viLakkukku iruLEdhu
  
  pAlinilirundhE nei piRakkum--kaNNA
  paramporuL kaNdE uyir piRakkum
  veeraththilirundhE kulam piRakkum
  adhil mElenRum keezhenRum engirukkum
  
  koduppavarellAm mElAvAr--kaiyil
  koLbavarellAm keezhAvAr
  tharubavanillayO karNA nee
  dharumaththin thAyE kalangAdhE
  
  Back later..
  
  
• From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate2.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Thu Sep 10 17:41:12 EDT 1998
  
  Hi All..
  
  I am not feeling good.. adhuthan yosikka mudiya villai. I will join with you very soon
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Sep 10 18:11:13 EDT 1998
  
  Song: Poongaattru Thirumbumaa; Film: Mudhal Mariyaadhai
  A middle-aged man who is locked into a miserable marriage out of obligation yearns for love and comfort. His yearning is noticed and consoled by an innocent farm girl who reminds him of his majesty. The song, the situation, the scene, the lyrics, IR's score are all part of a timeless movie magic. This one's for the TFM time capsule.
  
  poongaatru thirumbumaa en paatta virumbumaa
  thaalaatta madiyil vechchup paaraatta
  enakkoru thaai madi kedaikkumaa
  
  raasaavae varuththamaa aagaayam surungumaa
  aengaadhae adha olagam thaangaadhae
  adukkumaa sooriyan karukkumaa
  
  enna solluvaen ennullam thaangala
  meththa vaanginaen thookkaththa vaangala
  
  indha vaedhana yaarukkuththaan illa
  onna meeravae oorukkul aalilla
  
  aedhoa enbaattukku naan paattup paadi
  sollaadha soagaththa sonnaenadi
  
  soga ragam soagandhaanae
  soga ragam soagandhaanae
  
  yaaradhu poaradhu
  
  kuyil paadalaam than mugam kaattumaa
  
  (poongaatru)
  
  ulla azhuguraen veliya sirikkiraen
  nalla vaeshandhaan veluththu vaanguraen
  
  unga vaeshandhaan konjam maaranum
  enga saamikku magudam aeranum
  
  maanae en nenjukkup paal vaarththa thaenae
  munnae en paarvaikku vaavaa pennae
  
  esap paattu padichchaen naanae
  
  poonguyil yaaradhu
  
  konjam paarunga pen kuyil naanunga
  
  adi needhaanaa andhak kuyil
  yaar veettu sondhak kuyil
  aaththaadi manasukkulla kaaththaadi
  parandhadhae olagamae marandhadhae
  
  naandhaanae andhak kuyil
  thaanaaga vandhak kuyil
  aaththaadi manasukkulla kaaththaadi
  parandhadhaa olagandhaan marandhadhaa
  
  
  The line "meththai vaanginaen thookkaththai vaangalai" just bristles with wisdom and deep underlying sadness.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Sep 10 18:31:08 EDT 1998
  
  Song: Poomaalai; Film: Sindhu Bhairavi
  The story has already been given in detail in previous postings, so I will just say that this is an asariri(omnition)song in the movie where the scenes accompanying the song depict the fall from grace of a mighty singer. VM has unfortuantely not had the luxury of working in many movies such as this where the story and situation touch on the ironies and extremes of life. No poet can conquer the listening public by writing just routine love songs. This song is a stellar example of what VM can do when someone gives him a juicy situation to write for.
  
  poo maalai vaangi vandhaan pookkalillaiyae
  seviyillai ingoru isaiyedharku vizhiyillai ingoru villakkedharku
  naalum naalum aval ninaivil ivan azhaghup
  
  (poo maalai)
  
  kaiyil kinnam pidiththuvittaan inikkindra vishaththukkul irangivittaan
  raagam thaalam marandhuvittaan rasiganin kadidhaththaik kizhiththuvittaan
  isaikkoru kuyilenru paereduththaan irumalaiththaaninru surampidiththaan
  manidhargal iruppadhai marandhuvittaan maanaththin maanaththai vaangivittaan
  boadhaiyin paadhaiyil poaginraan thanmughamae thaan marandhaan
  soodavum thoalillai aalillai ivan azhaghup
  
  (poo maalai)
  
  naetru sabadhangal eduththuvittan kudikkinra koappaiyai udaiththuvittan
  meendum aval mugham ninaiththuvittan sabadhaththai avan ingu udaiththuvittan
  kadarkaraiyengum manalvelliyil kaadhali kaaladi thaedinaan
  mohanam paadum vaelaiyilum sindhuvin raagam paadinaan
  vidhiyenum oonjalil aadinaan than mugamae thaan marandhaan
  maedayil anindhadhu veedhiyil vizhundhida
  
  (poo maalai)
  
  Oru paadagan iruminaal adhu abaswaram; oru paadagan vaazhkaiyum avan kalaiyumae abaswaramaagivitta oru avala nilayai eththanai naerthiyudan surukkamaaga vivarikkiraar Vairamuthu indha varigalil, "isaikkoru kuyil endru paereduththaan irumalaiththaan indru surampiriththaan".
  
  

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