Topic started by Amma's Thambee (@ 202.54.43.144) on Fri Jun 19 02:45:30 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Kannadasan has written songs which profound meanings and a moral in every song.
ever since his death, there has been no one to take his mantle.His every song conveyed a meaning, something could be learnt from his lyrics.
But the situation has changed a lot now.
could this be attributed that the lyricists now are incapable of wriiting such songs or its the audience who dont want to hear those kind of lyrics?
could this be attributed to western influence on Indian Culture?
Hey wake up guys! What happend to Tamil culture, culture of India?
I would like to hear the responses from the makkal of tfm.
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: Amma's thambee (@ m39.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Mon Jun 22 09:01:32 EDT 1998
i think that palani Bharati 's song are much more decent.Kadalukku mariyadai lyrics were good and decent too.
It is upto time to see who takes the mantle of kannadasan.
more over shivaji Ganeshan is a glutton , who does seldom acts as he normally overacts, is wrong in comparing kannadasan with VM
Makkals comments invited
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate1.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jun 23 14:36:22 EDT 1998
Sathiya Keerthi sir,
Romba N-andRi.. Sivajikku vayasachchu. pazhasellam marandhu pochchu. kaviyarasu Thamizhil padal ezhudhi adhil ivar N-adiththu adhai TMS pondror padi ivarum, TMS-um pirabalyam aanadhai marandhu vittar. avvarukku Kamalhasan vakkalaththu vangi iruppadhu adhai vida thurathirshtam. aanal Kamalin kadaisi varigaLai parthal theriyum. Sivaji uNarchi vayappattu, allangarthirkaga VM-ai appadi solli irukkirar.
KaNNadhasan pola Sowthariya Lahariyai mozhi peyarkkavO, yEsu Kaviyam padaikkavo, arthamuLLa indhu madham ezhuthavo, sarithira kadhaigaL ezhudhavO Vairamuthuvaal mudiyadhu. appadi irukka Kamal, VMum Kaviyarusukku iNNaiyanavar, pathirikkai mattum than N-adaththa villai endru solli iruppadhu N-agaippai irukkiradhu.
Kaviyarasarai jeikka inndraikku oruvaralum mudiyavE mudiyadhu.
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Wed Jun 24 07:42:58 EDT 1998
Udhaya and others: What about Vaishali Kannadhasan to carry on his legacy? No one has replied to her, being his daughter, doesn't she deserve a mention? I haven't seen her work, so please give me an insight....or is it that she's so awful that no one will tale about her? My other thought is that she's the Daughter and not Son, so she doesn't deserve a mention....Thanks in advance.
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Wed Jun 24 13:43:01 EDT 1998
Now, now, Geetha,
Don't be playing the gender card. I haven't heard/read Visaali's poetry or lyrics. If she is good she should get every opportunity. The Tamizh film industry is definitely chauvenistic and she might have problems getting in. Maybe she is more interested in acting, as someone pointed out her acting in "Vaanamae Ellai".
When I was talking about legacy, I was talking about Kannadhaasan making sure that no one can emulate his name,i.e., no one can become a Kannadhaasandhaasan. That's all. I will be the among the first to celebrate it if Visaali made it big as a poet. SK and I were bemoaning the fact that there weren't any female poets in TFM in another thread, so quite a few of us in DF would like to see female poets thrive in TFM.
- From: Ramki (@ pm062-29.spindler.wmich.edu)
on: Wed Jun 24 18:02:47 EDT 1998
udhaya and Geetha, a new female poet by name Thamarai has penned the lyrics for couple of songs in 'iniyalavale'. She seems to have attracted the attention of many directors and has been signed by
Vikraman,KsRavikumar,sekar etc.Let us hope and wish that he stays in the field for a long time
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Jun 24 22:06:03 EDT 1998
Geetha & Udhaya:
Vishali Kannadhasan is yet to make any impact in
TFM. She is very young and so there is still a
possibility that she will come out as a shining
star lyricist. She started off as an actress in
KB's movie, 'VaanamE ellai'. It seems she wrote
her first TFM song in the movie, 'Nenjaththai
thodu' (MD: SA Rajkumar); the song is: 'sElai
kattum sOlaikkuLLE ammammaa oru sembaruththi
pooththirukku'. It seems she has also written
songs for some vague movies such as 'andha naaL',
'kuyil thOppu', 'en kaaviyamaanavanE' etc. She
also has plans to write and produce a movie
titled 'kavinjar magaL'. She has an interest to
do well, both as an actress and as a lyricist.
But, as I already said, she is yet to make a
mark. It would be nice to see her succeed.
p.s. All the above info is taken from the book:
'Vairamuththu Vari' by Su. Shanmugasundaram.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Jun 25 00:45:31 EDT 1998
Kannadhasan Vs Vairamuththu arguments
continue in this week's Kungumam (26th June 98 issue).
Last week's issue that I mentioned earlier gave
(mostly) the views of Kannadhasan supporters.
This week's issue is full of views of VM supporters...
Manirathnam, Balakumaran, Rajesh Kumar, Director
Rajeshwar, Prof. Periyardhasan, Prof. Su. Shanmugasundaram
(the one who wrote 'Vairamuththu varai' book)
kaviyarasu Naa.Kamaraasan and many others.
They basically agree with Nadigar Thilagam's
view. For the next weeks's issue, Kungumam is
planning to conduct a 'kalandhuraiyaadal'
involving people from both troops, and publish
the results.
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Thu Jun 25 05:55:29 EDT 1998
Sathya, Udhaya, Ramki: Thanks for that, it's good to see females entering the film industry for their brains and not looks. The Iniyavale songs are really good, so it looks like she'll make a mark. It's similar in Carnatic music where Lalitha Dasar is one of the few acknowledged composers and she's absolutely great. Thanks again for your responses, they've cleared up a lot for me.
- From: peesoo (@ horus.erlm.siemens.de)
on: Thu Jun 25 06:09:53 EDT 1998
Amma's Thambee: Thanks a lot for starting a nice thread. I balmed myslef for not noticing this thread for so long! I have no words to say. Im just posting best of kannadhasan here:
pOnaal pOkattum pOtaa; in-tha
pUmiyil n-ilaiyaay vaazn-thavar yaarataa?
pOnaal pOkattum pOtaa.
van-thathu theriyum pOvathu engkE
vaachal n-amakkE theriyaathu!
van-thavarellaam thangkivittaal in-tha
maNNil n-amakkE itamEthu?
vaazkkai enpathu viyaapaaram; varum
jananam enpathu varavaakum; athil
maraNam enpathu chelavaakum
pOnaal pOkattum pOtaa.
iraval than-thavan kEtkinRaan ; athai
illai enRaal avan vituvaanaa?
uRavaich cholli azuvathanaalE
uyirai mINtum tharuvaanaa?
kUkkuralaalE kitaikkaathu; ithu
kOrttukku pOnaal jeyikkaathu; an-tha
kOttaiyil n-uzain-thaal thirumpaathu
pOnaal pOkattum pOtaa.
- From: Britto Marceline (@ gwnj.utstar.com)
on: Fri May 7 17:59:21 EDT 1999
I am one of the serious lover of Kannadasan's songs. Here is enclosed some pointer to different pages about Kannadasan.
Pl. do not compare Vairamuthu with Kannadasan. Vairamuthu is no where near to Kannadasan on any front. He uses words with out any meaning which my computer can do it.
http://tamilnation.org/hundredtamils/kannadasan.htm
http://www.tamilnews.org.sg/~knadasan/
http://www.tamilnews.org.sg/~knadasan/kannan1.html
http://members.tripod.com/~kkalyan/knsngs1.html
http://www.cad.gatech.edu/~gt0494c/kamal_films/apoorvaragangal.html
- From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon Jul 3 12:19:52 EDT 2000
here's an announcement from Manisekaran (who is a living encyclopedia on old songs):
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Manisegaran
To: comments@newtfmpage.com
Subject: Radio Talk On Kannadasan
Dear Brothers, I do not know if all of you still remember me. I am
Manisegaran who take keen interest in old song discussions. Just
to let you know that my articles on Kannadasan is being broadcast over
Radio 6 inMalaysia every Sunday-local time 9.45pm. Two series have gone.
May be another two series to go. I am out of touch with Kanchana, Bones,
Sathya Keerthi,NOV, Udhaya,etc. Could your kindly pass this email to
them please. They may want to tune in to listen.
Thanks.
Mani
- From: Balaji (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com)
on: Mon Jul 3 12:29:52 EDT 2000
bb, ManiSegran:
Can I listen Radio 6 via the web (the current links don't work)
Thanks
Balaji
- From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon Jul 3 12:40:22 EDT 2000
the only link i have is http://www.asiaconnect.com.my/rtm-net/radio6.ram, but that doesn't work:(
- From: Jay Narayanasamy (@ 1cust75.tnt8.har1.da.uu.net)
on: Mon Jul 3 19:52:43 EDT 2000
Mr.Database would be more appropriate for Mani:)
- From: Saravanan (@ client-151-201-133-168.bellatlantic.net)
on: Fri Jul 7 10:02:21 EDT 2000
Anaivarukkum en vanakkam.Arthamulla indhumadham cassette -il kidaikkiradha.?
- From: Adityan (@ )
on: Sat Mar 17 10:25:24 EST 2001
thamiz vanakam
ethu adityan'in muthal thamiz vanakam
intha pakuthil santhipatil meha mahizhi
yen kavi arrasi thamarai patri thadugail kedaithathu intha pakam.
meedum oru thamiz vanakam koori vedai peruhiran
nanadri
- From: usman (@ 203.197.134.96)
on: Wed Mar 21 12:06:59 EST 2001
There is no replacement for this great maestro who made the tamils feel the spirit of the situation without complicating the song.
Long live his fame and name. Vishali, his daughter is busy with TV episodes on public talking and also suffers the same syndrome which the star children suffer when they take up to their dad's profession, ie., reluctance in recognition of their talents by thankless tfm people.
- From: Palaniappan Palaniappan (@ )
on: Wed Dec 5 19:52:30 EST 2001
Its absolutely amazing to know that people compare someone with a legend.
Kannadasan's was a legacy, which is unmatched and unparalled.
By virtue of wisdom, no one can ever come near the legend "kannadasan"
if u wish to deny this please go and read "arthamulla indhumadham" and "kadaisi pakkam"
by kaviarasu kannadasan
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