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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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Neel's VJ Songs

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• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 210.210.41.25) on: Sun Oct 13 11:36:21 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi,
  
  Naaz and yourself have, sort of, lessened the load on Saravanan's shoulders, by taking up Hindi (Bhajan) and Telugu translations!!!
  
  BTW, 'Daridryamu'- doesn't it mean poverty in Telugu, as 'Daridram' does in tamil?
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.20.126) on: Mon Oct 14 01:17:04 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan and CV
  Thanks both of you. Yeah, as Saravanan previously said, I am feeling sort of comfortable writing these translations down. Now it is actually fun doing it.
  
  CV
  Daaridryamu is a poetic way of using the word Daridramu which as you said means poverty. We use the same word even in telugu in a day to day basis. But daaridryamu is reserved for highly poetic usage.
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219) on: Mon Oct 14 05:02:24 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  A few hours back I happened to watch a few scenes from a mythological on Podhigai TV. (I think it is Heron Ramaswamy's 'Saneeswaran'). There were some good VJ numbers which I have never heard in the past!
  
  1. Santhana kudam onRu sathuraaduthu!
  thaamarai vizhi vaNdu suram paaduthu!
  
  (Suresh and Sasikala with VJ and a male voice sounding like KJY!)
  
  2. Two to three stanzas of 'VaaraNamaayiram' with 'kOzhi koovuthu' Viji (poor lady!)
  
  3. One more 'kavithai kELungaL' type 'aakrOsha' dance number by Viji, in front of Lord Vishnu idol!
  
  All were trade mark VJ numbers!!!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.174) on: Mon Oct 14 05:24:24 EDT 2002
  
  C V- I think you have been seeing 'Navagraha Nayagi'- hmm- Saraswathi Poojai leava nalla enjoy panreenga pola irrukkirathu! Koduthu Vaithavar!
  
  Amaam, I heard PS, VJ and others were singing in some 'Navarathiri programme' on Jaya TV. Paartheera?
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219) on: Mon Oct 14 05:52:09 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  >>>>>>'Navarathiri programme' on Jaya TV- Paartheera?<<<<<<<<
  
  No! I didn't happen to see!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.174) on: Mon Oct 14 09:29:35 EDT 2002
  
  Neel- I am unable to listen to any song in the site. I am getting the same message that Priya has got- only for me, it appears for all the songs! Help!
  
  Btw, where are you? No post from you for a long time?
  
  
• From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18) on: Wed Oct 16 09:38:58 EDT 2002
  
  Hey Neel,
  I have more songs for you.
  1. Kanni vannam roja poo kangal rendum vutha poo - spb & Vj md: SG Auto Raja
  2. Thanakoru Sogathai amaitha thevathai - Vazha Ninaithal Vazhalam - md IR
  3. Oruvannuku Oruthi yendra uravu sollum - with chitra md? movie?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Thu Oct 17 04:20:02 EDT 2002
  
  "Oruvanuku Oruthi" is from "Kaavalan avan Kovalan". Prabhu, Rekha and Madhuri acted in that movie. Movie was directed by Visu. MD is SG.
  
  
• From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18) on: Thu Oct 17 08:27:07 EDT 2002
  
  thanks GR
  
  
• From: Jeyaram (@ 203.197.134.73) on: Thu Oct 17 13:04:39 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  Waiting for the continuation of 70's series.
  
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.174) on: Sat Oct 19 05:00:50 EDT 2002
  
  - Back to 1977 and the last part of VJ’s songs for MSV-
  
  This week, lets dwell on 4 tour de force songs from a single film- a film where Vani was there in almost all the songs. She had 3 wonderful duets, with 3 great male singers- TMS, KJY and SPB, and a scintillating solo as well.
  
  By now, you must have guessed the film I’m talking about- yes, it was ‘Meenava Nanban’.
  MGR’s film, which was released around the time he became the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. It was his last but one venture, his last film being ‘Madurayai Meeta Sundara Pandiyan’, which was released in 1978.
  
  Meenava Nanban was directed by Sridhar, and co-starred Latha, Nambiar and VA Nirmala. It was usual MGR stuff and his age was visibly showing. But being Sridhar’s film, the songs were truly memorable. Apart from these 4 songs, there was ‘Pattathu rajavum’ pattala sippayum’ by TMS.
  
  
  98.Thangathil mugameduthu- Meenava Nanban- KJY- MSV
  
  
  ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
  Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
  Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
  And summer's lease hath all too short a date;
  Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
  And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
  And every fair from fair sometime declines,
  By chance, or nature's changing course, untrimm'd
  But thy eternal summer shall not fade,
  Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
  Nor shall Death brag thou wanderest in his shade,
  When in eternal lines to time thou growest:—
  So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
  So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.’
  
  
  How many songs were written by the lyricists who were part of the ‘MGR Hosanna Brigade’, praising the ageless beauty of the Puratchi Thaivar! ‘Endrum ilamai maaraamal vaazhum sarithirame’ goes one line from the song ‘Azhagenum oviyam ingey’ (Oorukku Uzhaippavan), ‘Unnai engengum thottaalum ilamai’ goes the line from ‘Nee ennenna sonnaalum’ (Netru Indru Naalai)---
  
  Here’s what our C V had to say about the lyrics of this song:
  
  “It seems MGR, in the last few films, used to positively reserve one song for Kavignar Muthulingam. When Kavignar thought he had been left out of 'Meenava Nanban', MGR rang him up and told him one song was still awaiting him, as usual! Kavignar wrote " Azhagugal unnidathil adaikkalam, un angangal manmathan padaikkalam (weapon)". It seems Sridhar and MSV commented it should be 'padaikkaLam' (Battlefield). Kavignar said both are applicable but he had only weapon in mind. Then there was a wisecrack from someone that Adaikkalam sounds like a Padhiriyar's name! Then Kavignar dropped the whole thing and then wrote the now famous 'Thangaththil Mugameduththu'!”
  
  
  KJY: Thangathil mugameduthu, sandhanathil udaleduthu
  Mangai endru vandhirukkum malaro
  Nee malai near pon manjal nilavo
  VJ: Thangathil mugameduthu sandhanathil udaleduthu
  Kaman pola vandhirukkum vadivo
  Andha Deva loga mannavanum neeyo
  
  KJY: Mullai malar chendugal kondu kodi aaduthu
  Thendral sathiraadinaal andha idai thaangumaa?
  VJ: Indha idai thaangave kaigal irukkindrathu
  konji uravaada malar manjam azhaikkindrathu
  malarndhu kanindhu sirithu kulungum kaniyaagavo—
  
  VJ: Endhan manakkoyilil Deivam unai kaangiren
  Undhan nizhal polave varum varam kettkindren
  KJY: Indha manaraajiyam endrum unakkaagave
  Sondha Maharani nee endru naan solluven
  Ninaikka inikka koduthu magizhndha muthaarame—
  
  This song too has timeless enchantment. Vani’s emphasis on ‘eduthu’, her short ‘swara’ jaalam in the first interlude, followed by KJY’s humming, the humming which leads back to the pallavi after each charanam- these minute touches all add to the beauty of the song.
  
  
  99.Neram Pournami Neram- Meenava Nanban- SPB- MSV
  
  Another duet, this time with SPB. Another ‘Moonlight’ romance--
  
  SPB: Neram pournami neram-
  Uravu ennum thirunadanam-
  Mella mella iravinil arangerum
  VJ: Ilan thendral kaatrum
  Kulir kondu vaattum-
  Idhayam kidandhu thavikka
  SPB: Inaiyum varaiyil thudikka
  VJ: Ilamai kavithai padikka—
  
  SPB: Vaan padaitha megam, thaan kodutha neelam-
  meen padaitha kannil midhappadhenna jaalam?
  VJ: Then padaitha poovum, thedi vandha kaatrum
  naan padaitha inbam, ennavendru kaattum
  SPB: Innum innum inbarasam kaana vendum
  VJ: Penn manadhu konjam konjam naana vendum
  
  SPB: Thennai konda neerum, dhraatchai konda saarum
  unnidathil oorum, ennidathil serum
  VJ: Poovidhazhgal naangum, paarthu paarthu yengum
  Paal mugathil thengum pazharasathai vaangum
  SPB: Micham enna ulladhendru paarkkavendum
  VJ: Achcham vetkkam vitta pinbu serkka vendum—
  
  A song which starts off in a high pitch, which climbs steadily to ‘arangerum’, and high on that alluring arangam, VJ meets SPB, with ‘Ilanthendral kaatrum’.SPB sounds playful in his ‘Aaha?’ just before ‘Inaiyum varaiyil thudikka’, while VJ too is equally full of mischief in her ‘Oho?’ before ‘Ilamai kavithai padikka’ and the enthralling brigha laden prolonging of ‘padikka’, leading back to the pallavi makes you long for more!
  
  
  100.Pogum kadalosai- Meenava Nanban- MSV
  
  
  ‘ The Gift to king Amphion
  That walled a city with its melody
  Was for belief no dream:--thy skill, Arion!
  Could humanise the creatures of the sea,
  Where men were monsters. A last grace he craves,
  Leave for one chant;--the dulcet sound
  Steals from the deck o'er willing waves,
  And listening dolphins gather round.
  Self-cast, as with a desperate course,
  'mid that strange audience, he bestrides
  A proud one docile as a managed horse;
  And singing, while the accordant hand
  Sweeps his harp, the Master rides;
  So shall he touch at length a friendly strand,
  And he, with his preserver, shine star-bright
  In memory, through silent night.'
  
  Easily among Vani’s best solos. How can I describe the magic of the song in mere words? The song is an experience- Listen to it, and be spellbound.
  
  Pongum kadalosai---
  Thanneerile-
  Odangalai—
  Thaalattave—
  Konjum thamizhosai—
  
  Pachaikkili oru thoniyil, pakkam varum adhikaalaiyil,
  Mannavan odam paarthatho, mayakkam kondu aadutho
  Saadhanai seigaiyil--
  sodhanai thondrinaal --
  mayanguvatheno?
  
  Velli alai vandhu modhalaam, sellum vazhi dhisai maaralaam
  Ponalai kaatru veesinaal padagu thaalam podalaam
  Neeralai medaiyil-
  meenavan nadagam -
  nadippathumeno?
  
  Solliththara oru vaadhiyaar, ennaivida ingu veru yaar?
  Pattadhu podhum endru nee paavai odam thedi vaa
  Sorndhadhu pothum vaa-
  serndhu naam pogalaam-
  oorvalamaaga—
  
  (Of course, the third charanam is one that finds place only in the film track)
  
  Wordswoth says:
  
  Blest be the song that brightens
  The blind man's gloom, exalts the veteran's mirth;
  Unscorned the peasant's whistling breath, that lightens
  His duteous toil of furrowing the green earth.
  For the tired slave, Song lifts the languid oar,
  And bids it aptly fall, with chime
  That beautifies the fairest shore,
  And mitigates the harshest clime.
  
  This is such a ‘Belessed’ song. Vani puts you into a trance with her opening humming, as as she begins her konjum thamizhosai, you are totally lost in an enchanting world-- MSV weaves, with his silky strings, a tantalising tapestry of wondrous hues, and Vani is the warp and waft ----verily has she put her heart and soul into the song. Each bit of the interlude music is awesome (The first and the third interlude being similar)- even if you happen to catch a just a tiny bit of it from some roadside shop’s radio- you’ll immediately recognise the song! There is an ageless beauty in every bit of the song, from the initial humming right upto the class, caressing fade out in the end. Visuvum Vaniyum vazhangiya indha Valaji, oru vaseegara vindhai!
  
  101.Kannazhagu singarikku- Meenava Nanban- TMS- MSV
  
  A lovely, folksy duet- I wonder why it didn’t reach the popular heights of the other two--
  
  TMS: Kannazhagu singarikku vizhiyirandil kanni vaithen,
  kaadhalukku seedhanamaai idhayathaye kondu vandhen
  Amudhe—senthene—thirunaal kandene
  
  VJ: Ponnazhagu aththanukku ilamanadhai allithandhen-
  poovidhazhin osaiyile kadhai kadhaiyaai solla vandhen
  Thalaivaa vandhene, enai naan thandhene
  
  TMS: Kallavizhi mogam-enna mozhi pesum,
  innum enna naanam ennodu?
  VJ: Anji nindra pothu, annai varum pothu-
  mella varum thoodhu kannodu
  TMS: Panjanaiyin medaiyil enaiththodum anbu manam
  VJ: Nejamenum oonjalalil dhinam varum inba sugam
  TMS: Amudhe—senthene—thirunaal kandene
  
  VJ: Minnumezhil thangam mannavanin angam-
  Moondru thamizh sangam ingey thaan
  TMS: Devi udalengum thenaruvi pongum-
  aasai manam yengum angey thaan
  VJ: Thottavudan meniyil mazhaimugil minnal varum
  TMS: Thulli varum kaigalo thalir udal pinni varum
  VJ: Thalaivaa vandhene, enai naan thandhene
  
  VJ as always, sprinkles enchanting value additions all over the song- the expressive ‘inba’ sugam, the rhythmic emphasis on ‘thangam’, ‘angam’ and ‘sangam’, the soft and suitably bashful ‘thottavudan meniyil’ --
  
  
  - 1977 to be continued with VJ’s works with othere MDs-
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 210.210.41.54) on: Sat Oct 19 11:23:54 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  Some two days back, Kavignar Muthulingam was on Podhigai TV in some 'hello!' programme. He repeated this 'azhagugaL unnidaththil...' episode. When a viewer kept on asking him ' Sir , have there been occasions similar to this, where you must have felt your original lyrics were much better than the 'corrected' version?' After some persuation, kavignar replied ' Yes! There have been. adhellaam veLiya solla mudiyaadhu! sonnaal enakku vaayppu kodukka maattaanga!' I enjoyed the innocence in his reply!
  
  He also mentioned Laxmikant Pyarelal (when he composed for some TF)among the MD's he had worked with and said " Hindi MD's respect the lyricist a lot!'
  
  

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