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- From: vani (@ 203.124.2.18)
on: Tue Jan 9 07:45:15 EST 2001
hello to my frenz who know music
I am a person just learning the musical notes now... and i need to know
what is sa ri ga ma pa da ni in western notes like A B C .....thanks....please help this poor soul.
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.12)
on: Tue Jan 9 13:00:45 EST 2001
Vani,
refer to the following page. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Ridge/4694/keyboard-class/legend.htm
- From: saketh (@ 128.6.227.143)
on: Tue Jan 9 17:10:20 EST 2001
what is the raga of the song "Aandavane un paadhangalai" from movie Oli vilakku? sivaranjani?or something close?thanx in advance.
- From: Vasu (@ 192.35.232.99)
on: Wed Jan 10 09:14:18 EST 2001
Is Ethilum ingu iruppan from Bharathi malayamarutham? The starting sounds like St. Thyagaraja's "manasa ethulo".
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.201)
on: Wed Jan 10 12:58:20 EST 2001
Vasu - it is Malayamarudham without Ni - should be a janya of Chakravaham - am not sure what the name of the raga is - Sa Ri1 Ga3 Pa Dha3 Sa - Sa dha pa ga ri sa - seem to be the notes in that raga...
would let you know when I find out...
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.15)
on: Wed Jan 10 13:27:31 EST 2001
Ethilum ingu is in 'Rasika ranjani' janyam of chakravakam. it is mohanam with variation in 'r'. mohanam has r2. rasika ranjani has r1.
IR. dha used is d2 as in mohanam not d3.
Any updates on 'sikkAdha chittonnu'-Sethu., 'siriya paravai'-andha oru nimidam??
What's the raga of the song 'hello my dear wrong number' from manmadha leelai?
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.201)
on: Wed Jan 10 15:09:13 EST 2001
well am sorry about that hari - that was a typo - I wrote that it is malayamarudham sans ni :)
- From: Vasu (@ 192.35.232.99)
on: Wed Jan 10 17:46:45 EST 2001
haris:
"hello my dear" i have heard its in madhuvanthi.
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.139)
on: Wed Jan 10 21:46:32 EST 2001
haris: 'siriya paravai' is indeed in charukesi.
- From: Renuka (@ 165.21.83.232)
on: Thu Jan 11 10:00:10 EST 2001
Hi guys
I need to know the raag for "Enkirengo Enjijengo" from Thenali.
Thnxs
- From: jeyaram.g (@ 203.197.131.227)
on: Thu Jan 11 11:05:30 EST 2001
Hi Saketh,
Most probably, 'Andavane' from Oli Vilakku is in Nilamani. Someone may reconfirm.
Jeyaram
- From: saketh (@ 128.6.227.143)
on: Thu Jan 11 19:10:41 EST 2001
Hi Jeyaram,
is Nilamani close to sivaranjani. what are its arohanam and avarohanam?thanks
- From: k.senthil (@ )
on: Sat Jan 13 07:06:36 EST 2001
I am senthil I am working as a District Sales Manager in private pharmaceutical company. Now I want to know about music.
I heard about music that 7 swarangal in music they are sa,ri,ga,ma, pa,da,ni. Is there any sub class? And how many ragas in music ? What are they? Give some examples.Dr S.K please help me
- From: k.senthil (@ 61.1.196.248)
on: Sat Jan 13 07:08:11 EST 2001
I am senthil I am working as a District Sales Manager in private pharmaceutical company. Now I want to know about music.
I heard about music that 7 swarangal in music they are sa,ri,ga,ma, pa,da,ni. Is there any sub class? And how many ragas in music ? What are they? Give some examples.Dr S.K please help me
- From: k.senthil (@ 61.1.196.248)
on: Sat Jan 13 07:08:16 EST 2001
I am senthil I am working as a District Sales Manager in private pharmaceutical company. Now I want to know about music.
I heard about music that 7 swarangal in music they are sa,ri,ga,ma, pa,da,ni. Is there any sub class? And how many ragas in music ? What are they? Give some examples.Dr S.K please help me
- From: k.senthil (@ 61.1.196.248)
on: Sat Jan 13 07:08:56 EST 2001
I am senthil I am working as a District Sales Manager in private pharmaceutical company. Now I want to know about music.
I heard about music that 7 swarangal in music they are sa,ri,ga,ma, pa,da,ni. Is there any sub class? And how many ragas in music ? What are they? Give some examples.Dr S.K please help me
- From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.164)
on: Sun Jan 14 14:02:35 EST 2001
Hallo Sri.Senthil, I saw your query posted in quadreplet(?a technical repetition in net error!).
In all musical systems they have only 7 notes like
our Carnatic music which goes as sa,ri,ga,ma,pa,
dha,ni,- and the 8th note will be again Sa(sa in
the next octave).In western system also only 7 notes A,B,C,D,E,F,G again A.(You can see all notes
in the English Song'DO RE MI'from 'Sound of Music
the original version of our Santhi nilayam'Tamil
movie.
These7 notes are common in our Hindusthani also and are akin tothe VIBGYOR - 7 colour spectrum in
sunrays-(you can compare this 7 colors withthe 7
different coloured horses driving the chariot of
our Sun God)while the colour spectrums are measured in Amstrong scales (from 3600 amstrong
units to 7200 au) the musical notes are measured
in cycles spectrum.
Apart from the the constant 7 notes, additional
swara sthanams are present in our music,the variant swarasthanams occur in RI,GA,MA,DA,NI-
Only Sa and pa are singularly constant.
By a process of permutation and combinations difft ragas are created(like English language with 26 alphabets constitute around 4.5lacs words
and our Tamil 5 lacs words from 230alphabets)
It is estimated that there are around 35,000 and
so ragas can be documented and in these only 1000
or so number of ragas are in use(prayogam)
I hope I have bored you enough in this.Thankx for
(?im)patient reading
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.13)
on: Wed Jan 17 15:30:15 EST 2001
is 'swasame swasame' from tenali in yamunakalyani?
and i also feel that its heavily inspired from some old song or ghazal or something.. any pointers?
- From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.248)
on: Fri Jan 19 15:05:19 EST 2001
hallo Haris, the song' swasame swasame..' is set in Hameer kalyani and not in yaman kalyani.The typical song for this Hameer kalyani is 'Eariyile
oru kashmeer roja.' from Madhanamaligai.Also you
can compare the following hk songs:1.'Ennuyir thozhi.' from Karnan(Aranmanai arivan..line can be
typical comparison for swasame). 2.Manasukkul utkarndhu mani adaithai.'(from ? Achani). 3.Aruvi
magal malai osai..(?film).4.Also you can add this
song"Nee oru kadhal sangeetham.' from Nayagan.
hallo, .Ethilumingu iruppan.' is Ramapriya, I
suppose (Kamalam padhak kamaklam.' from Mohamull)
- From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.248)
on: Fri Jan 19 15:05:23 EST 2001
hallo Haris, the song' swasame swasame..' is set in Hameer kalyani and not in yaman kalyani.The typical song for this Hameer kalyani is 'Eariyile
oru kashmeer roja.' from Madhanamaligai.Also you
can compare the following hk songs:1.'Ennuyir thozhi.' from Karnan(Aranmanai arivan..line can be
typical comparison for swasame). 2.Manasukkul utkarndhu mani adaithai.'(from ? Achani). 3.Aruvi
magal malai osai..(?film).4.Also you can add this
song"Nee oru kadhal sangeetham.' from Nayagan.
hallo, .Ethilumingu iruppan.' is Ramapriya, I
suppose (Kamalam padhak kamaklam.' from Mohamull)
- From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.248)
on: Fri Jan 19 15:05:30 EST 2001
hallo Haris, the song' swasame swasame..' is set in Hameer kalyani and not in yaman kalyani.The typical song for this Hameer kalyani is 'Eariyile
oru kashmeer roja.' from Madhanamaligai.Also you
can compare the following hk songs:1.'Ennuyir thozhi.' from Karnan(Aranmanai arivan..line can be
typical comparison for swasame). 2.Manasukkul utkarndhu mani adaithai.'(from ? Achani). 3.Aruvi
magal malai osai..(?film).4.Also you can add this
song"Nee oru kadhal sangeetham.' from Nayagan.
hallo, .Ethilumingu iruppan.' is Ramapriya, I
suppose (Kamalam padhak kamaklam.' from Mohamull)
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.13)
on: Fri Jan 19 19:32:06 EST 2001
i think somebody said "Nee oru kadhal sangeetham" is in desh. please confirm. I'm pretty sure "Ethilumingu iruppan" is in rasikapriya. ( same as amudhE thamizhE from koil pura.)
Thanks for confirming 'swasame swasame..'
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Sat Jan 20 16:15:11 EST 2001
IT is not rasikapriya but rasikaranjani.
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.12)
on: Mon Jan 22 13:31:38 EST 2001
MS. correct. typo from my part.
- From: Kannan (@ 209.185.189.242)
on: Thu Jan 25 11:01:59 EST 2001
what ragam is the song "vanna nilavukkul nilavondru kanavukkul kanavondru" from rikshamama based on, someone please.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Thu Jan 25 12:45:32 EST 2001
Madhyamaavathi
- From: kannan (@ 209.185.189.240)
on: Fri Jan 26 14:34:35 EST 2001
if that is madhyamavati, then what is the raga for "solaikkuyiley.. kaalaikkadhirey" sung by SP Shailaja. I think that is also madhyamavati.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Fri Jan 26 15:45:07 EST 2001
yes
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.218)
on: Tue Jan 30 10:51:58 EST 2001
swaasame also sounds like behag ... it seems like a mix of hameer kalyani and behag
- From: CM (@ 204.69.198.66)
on: Tue Jan 30 20:05:10 EST 2001
Is "paartha vizhi paartha padi " from the film Guna hamsanaadham or Revathi?
- From: Vidhya (@ 24.128.190.214)
on: Tue Jan 30 23:34:35 EST 2001
CM: It is paavani.
41st meLakartha.
pAvani | S R1 G1 M2 P D2 N3 S | S N3 D2 P M2 G1 R1 S
- From: Kausalya (@ 12.40.255.130)
on: Wed Jan 31 12:32:47 EST 2001
Hi!
Got to see this list very recently. Very heartening. Have a question? Is Nallodor Veenai Saidu from Varumayin Niram Sivappu is thilang? Has shades of it but not sure.
Also addition to the list is 'Sridevi En Vazhvil Arul Seyya Va (Film:don't remember) is Hindolam
Kausalya
- From: Vidhya (@ 206.216.1.3)
on: Wed Jan 31 12:49:27 EST 2001
Kausalya: "Nallodor Veenai" is thilang.
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