Topic started by gundu (@ dot.icn.state.ia.us) on Tue Jun 27 21:56:32 EDT 2000.
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ob'ly ... not his expmnts. with ragas which must be in hundreds ... I am talking about more general and innovative experiments ...let me start in the thread ...
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- From: srikanth (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Fri Aug 17 14:58:51 EDT 2001
bharath i dont see anything to prove kb's statement about stereo in your posting...
you told something about kb, msv and Western classical music period.
Your statement sounded more like a sarcasm about the achivements of a person.
what about your claim on writing score, "you have safely avoided to accept that you are wrong in your claim.
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.246)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:03:07 EDT 2001
moochuvidaama paadina mudhal paattu:
muththaithiru paththithiru by TMS for G.Ramanathan/T.R.Paappa
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:05:23 EDT 2001
Hey Srikanth - what is the proof that a person like you existed ? what is the proof for blah blah blah..... :-)
sorry guys, at times my BP goes tooooo high after reading some *good* comments from our dear friend BHARATH......
Bharath - i have read in THE HINDU Long long long ago about an article abour IR where the person who went to interview him mentioned about IR writing the notes in hand.... it had a picture too when IR was doing that.... well, now u will ask *where is the proof* for this - now, even if i somehow come with that, u will ask a proof of *how true* is this..... ok, now even if i come with the person who had interviewed that time, u will ask *how sure is it that it is the same person*.... man, i will tell u, u suck, that too big time..... i never wanted to write something like that - but just could'nt tolerate it..... i know, i am going to get a harsh response for this posting, but iam not bothered...... atleast now my BP is down :-).....
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:16:45 EDT 2001
//"Your statement sounded more like a sarcasm about the achivements of a person"//
No sarcasm begin{
I was simply asking a question? Please show me hints of any sarcasm
}
Sabesan : stop over reacting! and instead look for atleast 1 trace in my posting! where I claimed IR did not write the music score by hand.
Or 1 mention anywhere that I would believe the info only if I see the proof.
Its is because of idiots like you, who are best called as "pottai's" because you will cry when someone questions any statement abt IR. That things suck.
if u r that effeminate velilaa poda . unna evanda respond panna sonnan.
srikanth
//"what about your claim on writing score, "you have safely avoided to accept that you are wrong in your claim"//
can u show me where ?
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:23:57 EDT 2001
the upshot of the prev posting is your bias about me as an anti-IR person clouds your reason which makes srikanth tell me I was being sarcastic . I was never sarcastic and dont see any evidence of being so that all.
Yaaro! had given a long list and I was questioning his claims with my knowledge.
If you expect me to bow down and say 'yes master" to whatever you say! Its nonsense.
Please view what I have written dispassionately and the comment. If you cant take critisism (like sabesan) you are not fit to put across comments in the first place.
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:25:14 EDT 2001
wow..... now iam very happy.... i made ur BP also to go high..... :-)
to all others, i apologize for whatever i did.... i was just giving *this guy* of what it is to post like him......
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:32:52 EDT 2001
//"to all others, i apologize for whatever i did.... i was just giving *this guy* of what it is to post like him...... "//
1) now u loose qualification to discuss about posting ethics
2)my BP didnt go high. pls dont assume everyone reacts the way you do.
and putting a ";-) " could make an idiot think you r being cool! I can see your weakness pretty obviously!
//"i was just giving *this guy* of what it is to post like him...... "//
plus my posting was not as childish like you and I dont think you r blessed wth an intellect to even understand me.
- From: koRada (@ tog-wakko3.prognet.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:42:19 EDT 2001
"If you cant take critisism (like sabesan) you are not fit to put across comments in the first place."
Dude....... now ure trying to ACT as a MODERATOR!!!
U said "I remember IR's interview in DD and when asked abt "muchu vidamal paatu" he chuckled and said that spb had already sung such kind of a song in IR music and since that wasnt advt. no one knew abt it. That song was then played. Does any one remember that song. I forgot it! "
Bhagavathar replied "Bharath:
The song is "Kanmaniyae Kathal Enbathu Karpaniyo" from Arilirinthu Arubathuvarai"
Now urself bringing in the above example for handwritten score and questioning everyone!!!
Dude Get LOST!!!
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:53:23 EDT 2001
//"Now urself bringing in the above example for handwritten score and questioning everyone!!! "//
what nonsense! when did i do the above. unakenna kannu theriyaatha. first read what is written b4 posting for what u wanted to be written.
I mentioned 2 interviews 1 IR and 1 KB.
from KB's interview
1) stereo
2) wcm compositions
from IR's interview
1) moochu vidamal pattu!
ippo purinchitha!
Bhagavathar! now I get it thanx!
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 15:55:48 EDT 2001
sabesan,
i am still waiting for ur answer
//"Sabesan : stop over reacting! and instead look for atleast 1 trace in my posting! where I claimed IR did not write the music score by hand.
Or 1 mention anywhere that I would believe the info only if I see the proof. "//
first post replies b4 acting smart! illaine empty vessel kathai thaan
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:38:52 EDT 2001
Bharath - pls go thro ur postings..... even then if u don't know what u have said, i have nothing else to say.....
well, i can go on and add more - but don't want to..... u can say whatever u want....
- From: .... (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:40:16 EDT 2001
title : MR.BHARATH
EPISODE : (we cannot keep count)
features:Bharath (in the lead role), Sabesan (v.k.ramswamy role) , Srikanth (visu role) and few more.
transscript
Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 17 12:51:57 EDT 2001
//"first (and only) indian md who can write a complete musical piece straight from his mind onto paper!
can anyone add to my list? "//
yes! I have seen such a posting in this DF before.
where is the evidence for this. Is it "kelvi gnanam " or is there any manifestation of this.
-- Bhrath asks for proof for IRs ability to write score!.... (bgm:tan tan tan!....)
From: srikanth (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Aug 17 13:10:58 EDT 2001
-answers him with in 15 mins. (bgm:dan dan dan dan)
Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 17 14:51:10 EDT 2001
-- you mislead by bringin in KB and Writing score...in you next posting.
did not bother to acknowledge it.... (bgm: slow air india sitar music )
srikanth (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Aug 17 14:58:51 EDT 2001
-- i tried to get your attention...again. (bgm: calling bell sound, and other efxs)
From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 17 15:16:45 EDT 2001
- you started to abuse....people .. (bgm: savu molam..dar nak dar nak.. nak nak)
From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 17 15:16:45 EDT 2001
--- continues to next episode. (....bgm...nothing...
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:45:36 EDT 2001
Srikanth - edhu aniyaaaam.... enakku *role* koduthuttu vasaanameeey kodulaaaaa :-)
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:46:08 EDT 2001
ooops - mistake - read "kodulaaaaa" as "kodukalaaa".....
- From: .. (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:49:17 EDT 2001
sabesan, vkr role.....so moodevi..etc can used freely..:)
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:52:53 EDT 2001
srikanth, lol...... :-)
(r u the same *fan* aka *comment* ?)
- From: srikanth (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Fri Aug 17 16:53:33 EDT 2001
yes nan avane...:)
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 17:17:36 EDT 2001
//"-answers him with in 15 mins. (bgm:dan dan dan dan) "//
unsatisfactorily though!
//"-- you mislead by bringin in KB and Writing score...in you next posting.
did not bother to acknowledge it.... (bgm: slow air india sitar music ) "//
dunno what this means. from ur perspective u simply use words like "mislead" w/o telling what was misled?
//"- you started to abuse....people .. (bgm: savu molam..dar nak dar nak.. nak nak) "//
yeah! i neednt tell who started this first!
sabesan,
learn to differentiate a question and a comment!
even in my posting
//"yes! I have seen such a posting in this DF before.
where is the evidence for this. Is it "kelvi gnanam " or is there any manifestation of this. "//
is just a question asking if there is a specific song or instance where IR's troupe members or atleast lyricist/singers have seen IR doing so?
so far a remote reference from MR is all that I got.
otherwise there is only a trumpeted statement from u and srikanth (whose posting i dont understand at all)
so much is being made about this "writing notes thing" to suggest it is a big genius ability beyond the scope of MSV/ARR? I wanted to know if u had even a shred of evdence to support the fact that it is possible only by IR?
srikanth,
you r simply writing confusing posting w/o answering 1 of my questions look back and i have asked u many questions and u answer 1.
- From: sabesan (@ ws-12-47-56-201.webvangroup.com)
on: Fri Aug 17 17:25:15 EDT 2001
Siripu varudhu Siripu varudhu
Sirika Sirika Siripu varudhu
Chinna manushan Periaaa manushan
Seyalaai parthu
Siripu varudhu Siripu varudhu
Sirika Sirika Siripu varudhu
Somethings that i learnt today
1. Evidence and proof are different. Asking for evidence means *just a question*
2. Writing *notes* by hand is not a big genius ability, but working on very very few movies is an achievement or experiment or whatever
vaazhga Jananayagam.....
- From: srikanth (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Fri Aug 17 17:32:38 EDT 2001
bharath :), ok read below...
this was my answer
i have seen this!!..he does write his scores, he usually writes his backgrounds..pretty quickly.
belive me well tranined western classical musican can calculate the score in their mind, they ofetn tell they hear it in their brain. if possible, check with any musician who has worked for IR.
was the above in "hebrew"...(now dont tell i can understand hebrew..this does not like hebrew),
or can i conclude you dont belive me..if so ...sabesan's (BP'ed) posting is correct...
halo if you dont know learn composers use a piano or an harmonium or vocal or some other means to help them in composing, this is needed especially for light music where harmonies are important. eg: msv uses harmoium, arr uses keybs,
beatles used piano.
ir does not use anything. he can calculate it and write it. do you know a composer called beethoven?
(he does not compete with ARR so dont go into it)
he was deaf in his later part of his life but still composed how?, he wrote it..he created music without hearing them. like "graphical memory", this can be called as "musical memory"..
to talk about ir's postives and negatives -- you should know atleast 90% about him and his music you seem to only 0.5%...that too gained from reading few postings here.
your postings are bulky and wide...,but inorder to gain some height it better be vertical"....
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