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- From: bb (@ 24.6.223.145)
on: Fri Jun 18 00:37:52 EDT 2004
Thoppus, irukkara bandwidth-lle bunch paNNi ram file-llaam pOda vENdaamnu irukkEn. nee vENumnaa oru ram file create paNNikkO localA :)
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 220.227.146.4)
on: Fri Jun 18 00:50:01 EDT 2004
Da Vinci ,
Even I have seen the drummer with his characterstic hairstyle at Star Theatre Triplicane (1980-81). (BTW, is it still existing?)
I think he acted in 'kazhugu' also , if I remember right.
Friends,
One of my friends used to say while watching ' kudiyiruntha kOyil', you should simply close your eyes, listen to all the songs and come out! The same holds good with 'ninaiththaalE inikkum ' also!
The various comic episodes along with a blood cancer kind of story were so disjointed that one ends up commenting 'ninaiththaalE eriyum'! The unexplained sadism in Poornam's character, the 'thalai mudiyaip piykka veykkum' Jayasudha character, the jerks in the flashbacks, 'kichchu kichchu ' moottinaalum sirippu varaatha scenes- most of them by Rajini and a few by S.V.Sekhar, you can go on and on!
Of course, songs were a 'thEnisai mazhai' as rightly claimed by them!
- From: Thops (@ 24.163.66.143)
on: Fri Jun 18 00:59:05 EDT 2004
bb - ram file create pannitaen...aana newtfmpage vanthu linka click pannara sugame thani...
- From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.34)
on: Fri Jun 18 06:08:37 EDT 2004
Ninaithale inikkum is a masterstroke by MSV. "Ninaithaale inikkum", "Engeyun Eppodum", "Bharathi kannamma" and are my pick
- From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.185)
on: Fri Jun 18 09:16:07 EDT 2004
It was interesting to go through the ¡¥ninaithAlE inikkum¡¦ storyline with the songs.
In those days, when movies were less in number, every good movie (or a popular movie) seems to always have some associated memories. The TV had not diluted the public taste then, there was not so much of pressure at schools to obtain unbelievable scores in the examinations etc and etc, and so there was a possibility of some unforgettable memories attached with some movies which are not possible in the scenario today. As Saravanan went to Coimbatore to see this movie, I remember many of my neighbors¡¦ cousins and relatives traveling all the way to Madurai from places like Theni, Bodi and Ramnad District just to see some movies (In turn, guys from cities like Madurai made a point to see ¡¥English¡¦ movies at Safire when they visited Chennai ƒº) . The efforts we took to see some movies must have made some everlasting impressions. Today, I have seldom seen a person watching a full movie. Songs and fight scenes are conveniently fast forwarded by the touch of a button at home (The other day my neighbor¡¦s daughter wanted the remote to reduce the sound when watching a movie at a theater! The impact of movies could be very much different today). There are too many movies, on the other hand, that adds dilution to one¡¦s response to movies.
I think that is precisely the reason it is enchanting to read many of the postings found all over this site. The person who has some attachment with movies today seems to me to be a person with some sense of nostalgia, and it is a relishing experience to go through some such nostalgic trips through the music that seems to be the most significant part of it. Whether it could be generalized so or not, it seems true in my case and I have always loved to start a day with such refreshing memories.
- From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78)
on: Fri Jun 18 10:45:15 EDT 2004
Did Varumaiyin niram sivappu also come after NI? I believe so. The number "sippi irukkudhu" is one for the ages. ARR has used pieces of that song in his "roja roja"
- From: doubter (@ 208.249.49.1)
on: Fri Jun 18 12:20:44 EDT 2004
I thought Sridevi lent her voice to Jayapradha in 'ninaithaalae inikkum'. Listen to, "nee vaasikkanum, naan kaekkanum", in the prelude of "What a waiting"
- From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50)
on: Fri Jun 18 12:55:24 EDT 2004
Cannot help but marvel everytime at the transition from a fairly catchy pallavi to a much more complex melody line in the charanams in "Bharathi kannamma "accomplished quite deftly by MSV. As if to warn the listener of the impending twists and turns in the charanams a slightly compex tabla nadai preludes it before SPB takes over, and then the song, melody as well as the rhythm takes an entirely different dimension in the charanams, the tight rhythm-melody functionality being a characteristic of MSV's ballads. Unfortunately this feature was to get rarer in the succeeding years.
- From: OISG (@ 213.42.2.26)
on: Fri Jun 18 17:38:02 EDT 2004
13 songs for SPB,the only female solo going LRE's way,the toughest of the songs going SJ's way,VJ & PS getting their due.....niraivu.
13 for Balu -a record?
"thunbam nergayil"as BGM in violin towards the end of the movie sums it all.Despite KB's best efforts this movie is talked about today thanks to the entire crew.
Had the great fortune of meeting er.. seeing Jayaprada in 1993 at her residence.Paeche varavillai.Like devar Magan revathi "verum kaathu thanga varuthu".Oru vaaram pasalai padarnthu irunthEn.Enakku En chandrunnu paer veikkavillai?atleast Srikanth Nahathanavathu vechirukkalam.
MSV-Sad but true;He scaled new heights in individual songs subsequently like Sippy irukuthu,Kana kanum kangaL,Oru oosai indri maunamaga but as an album this magnum opus was his sign off.
- From: SP (@ 24.107.5.179)
on: Fri Jun 18 22:36:25 EDT 2004
Just finished listening to all the songs.
Bayangara thithippu :-)
bb,
I want mp3 versions. Can you send you a mail?
- From: SP (@ 24.107.5.179)
on: Fri Jun 18 22:36:56 EDT 2004
errrr....
Can *I* send you a mail
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.182)
on: Fri Jun 18 23:56:14 EDT 2004
Happy to see so many having nostalgic memories and thoughts associated with Ninaithaale Inikkum and its songs. Thanks :)
M4E, yes, Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu came in the following year. The order of KB films in that period, as I recall, is:
1977:
Avargal
Pattina Pravesam
1978:
Nizhal Nijamagirathu
Thappu Thaalangal
1979:
Ninaithaale Inikkum
Noolveli
1980:
Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu
1981:
Thillu Mullu
Thanneer Thanneer
Enga Oor Kannagi
doubter: it was definitely Saritha dubbing for Jayapradha. She did the same in 47 Naatkal too, in which she herself appeared in a brief role. She spoke for both Jayapradha and for herself in that film :)
- From: Saravanan (@ 217.165.86.92)
on: Sat Jun 19 01:05:46 EDT 2004
Forgot to add: 47 Naatkal also 1981.
- From: vengayam (@ 203.197.203.98)
on: Sat Jun 19 05:02:38 EDT 2004
OISG,
add unakenna melle ninrai to that list of later day hits of MSV
- From: vengayam (@ 203.197.203.98)
on: Sat Jun 19 05:10:23 EDT 2004
OISG
we can add Unakkenna melle ninrai to that list of later day MSV gems
- From: vengayam (@ 203.197.203.98)
on: Sat Jun 19 05:26:42 EDT 2004
Saravanan,
This is getting monotonous. but yes it goes without saying your write ups were as usual wonderful! ( of course by this time u should know that If i don't comment on your write up it is good.. ;-))
bb
It also gave me a chance to ramble..
so thanks for that as well.( you had only a short break pola..?)
- From: Music4ever (@ 64.222.244.33)
on: Sat Jun 19 08:18:41 EDT 2004
Thanks as usual for the list Sara :)
OISG, Vengayam: Now that I know some of the KB movies that came after NI, thanks to Saravanan, I can say this:
1) Maan kanda sorgangal
2) Raagangal padhinaaru
3) Thaerottam, Anandha shenbaga ...
are also, among others, MSV gems.
- From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50)
on: Sat Jun 19 18:56:02 EDT 2004
"The various comic episodes along with a blood cancer kind of story were so disjointed that one ends up commenting 'ninaiththaalE eriyum'! The unexplained sadism in Poornam's character, the 'thalai mudiyaip piykka veykkum' Jayasudha character, the jerks in the flashbacks, 'kichchu kichchu ' moottinaalum sirippu varaatha scenes- most of them by Rajini and a few by S.V.Sekhar, you can go on and on!
"
That is just the product of KB's eccentricity. Only bettered by "Paarthale paravasam" :-)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Sun Jun 20 03:21:28 EDT 2004
Saravanan -
Ninaiththaale Inikkum was a hollow propped up by a scaffolding of songs. Your write-up, sentimental in it's evocation of a memory that harks back to a less analytical time (or maybe not) is the flipside of adulation - a flashback as parody. Not the write-up, but what it has newly revealed to me (and maybe just me) - about how manufactured inanity can one day be celebrated as a thing of consequence.
Even excellence.
Ninaiththaale Inikkum was an exercise that can be best described as saleable compositions in search of a (rudderless?)plot. Of course, it wasn't there. I remember being mesmerised by the same things that floored and wowed you (gee, you remember things like Hotels and Promenades, and I couldn't compete with that) and looking back, with the aid of your detailed synopsis, it seems like so much ado about appalling nothing. This is not scoffing at the memory of things past, but seeing it without the glad-eye of nostalgia. By that I mean imbuing the misadventures and misreadings of the past with a cloying romantic "hallmark" glow, seldom allowing the lens of present-day maturity to refract it. The inisistence to keep things inviolate, against reason, has always puzzled me.
Speaking from a purely subjective (what else?) standpoint, I don't believe NI to be the best work of MSV either. The buzz around the music was half generated by the assumed rivalry between the incumbent and his new "rustic" challenger. NI was the supposed "glam" repartee, an elan, that the old guard was still in control. But was he? Don't the songs have a certain "prefab" quality about them?
Moondru Mudichchu, Aboorva Raagangal and the later Andha Ezhu Naatkal all make NI seem derivative, if not faux modern. It was MSV out of his skin, simulated and psychedelic, like a neon "vacancy" sign. Or a flourescent OM on the Vadapalani Gopuram.
Admittedly, that also sounds a lot like the plot (to which I dare not add another word after your total recall above!)
If NI lived up to anything, it was the literality of it's title. There was sweetness in the thought. But, looking back, we should at least recognise that abject thoughtlessness, in the long run (about three hours?) is seldom sweet. :-)
- From: OISG (@ 213.42.2.11)
on: Sun Jun 20 06:59:24 EDT 2004
Carefully chosen words,Clever and classic presentation demystifying "nostalgia".:(
Relegating NI to just a repartee -the statement resonates with cynicism.I see it as MSV's & TFM's "crowning glory" rather than a neon sign and i am sure that I am not alone.
If NI songs were prefabricated then god did have a beta version before saying "Let there be light".
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