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Kannadhaasan Vs. Vairamuthu TFM Symposium Topic 5: Nagaichchuvai Paadalgal

Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Mon Aug 3 20:53:03 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

For a good understanding of how to approach this ongoing symposium, please refer to the thread, "Kannadhaasan Vs. Vairamuthu TFM Symposium Topic 1:Iyarkai Varnanai" before you post. Let me reiterate that this is not a patti mandram, but
a research symposium.
Please show TFM examples of both poets with regards to just their Nagaichchuvai Paadalgal for this thread. Please provide the name of the song whose lines you excerpt and the name of the movie if known. Here are the symposium categories, the bold topics are yet to be discussed:
1)Iyarkai Varnanai
2)Kaadhal Paadalgal
3)Thaththuva Paadalgal
4)Vaarthai Prayoagam
5)Nagaichchuvai Paadalgal
6)Samudhaaya Seerthirutha / Puratchi Paadalgal
7)Vingyaana/Naveena Karuthoottum Paadalgal
8)Ilakkiya Moolam Ulla Paadalgal
9)Kadhaikku Porundhiya Paadalgal(situational songs)
10)Kavidhai Milekarkal (Poetic Milestones that the poets will be remembered by!)

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Responses:

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• From: Ramki (@ pm062-21.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Fri Aug 7 17:43:53 EDT 1998
  
  Prakash idhukkellam source ketta naan ennappa panradhu?:))Vividh bharathi dhan ennoda sourcennu unakku theriyadha enne?
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ 173-104-147.ipt.aol.com) on: Fri Aug 7 21:01:06 EDT 1998
  
  Some more songs/Lines by Vm
  "Rathiname muththam vaikkava athukkaha pattanam
  poi vakkeel vaikkava"
  In muthal Mariyathai "Hey kuruvi song"
  Kuruvaiyai veetu vittathil koodu katta solhirar. Aanal pondatti oru raatchasi. Nagaichuvayudan koorukirar
  "Pondatti thane vanthu yennanu paappa"
  "Ada un kootai paartha Kudaikooli keppa"
  Thanks
  Sundar
  
  
• From: laks (@ dialup77.black-hole.com) on: Sat Aug 8 01:27:15 EDT 1998
  
  These is one old shivaji song.
  Pombala oruthi irunthalam bhothatha paarthu bhyanthalaam, aambala oruthan iruthaan avaLukku thunaya nadanthaanaam.
  
  
• From: xyz (@ 202.54.37.18) on: Sat Aug 8 04:05:53 EDT 1998
  
  Laks:
  
  That song is from Adhe Kangal starring Ravichandran
  and Kanchana.
  
  
• From: laks (@ dialup36.black-hole.com) on: Sat Aug 8 18:01:30 EDT 1998
  
  Thanx 202.54.37.18, peyar kUra En thayakkamO.!
  
  Here is one more kurumbu song.
  paavam gemini, vaaNishree idam maatindu mulikkaraaar.
  
  n-aan chaththam pOttuththaan paatuvEn
  unnai chan-thiththEthaan thIruvEn
  n-aan chaththam pOttuththaan paatuvEn
  unnai chan-thiththEthaan thIruvEn
  
  film - veLLi vizha
  
  
  
• From: Reva (@ 202.54.37.18) on: Sun Aug 9 01:36:20 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya Sir:
  Kannadhasan's list here will be a revelation for me endru, indha
  thread-ai aarambikkum pOdhE oru 'mutruppuLLi' type statement koduththu
  vitteergaLE! VM-ai vida Kannadhasanukku nagaichchuvai uNarvu niRaya uNdu.
  (Kannadhasan photos ellaavatrilum mugaththil oru sirippu irukkum; VM-in
  photos-il oru seriousness eppOdhum irukkum; gavaniththirukkireergaLaa?)
  adhu sari. sirippil uNdaagum raagaththilE kidaikkum sangeedhamE
  endru paadiya kavinjarukku nagaichchuvai uNarvu niRayavE uNdu enbadhai
  udhaaraNgaLudan viLakkugiREn. Prakash, Pagalavan pOndrOrgaL palavatrai
  munnarE sollivittanar. Pagalavan avargaL solliyadhu pOl varavu ettaNaa
  Kannadhasan ezhudhiyadhE. arumaiyaana nagaichchuvai paadal. Kannadhasanin
  nagaichchuvai paadalgaLil uLLa oru speciality ennavendraal adhil veRum
  veththu vEttu kaali vaarththaigaL mattum irukkaadhu; niRaya karuththum
  irukkum. nagaichchuvaiyudan pala mukkiya vishayangaLaiyum avar puriya
  vaippaar.
  
  Prakash sonna gubu gubu gubu gubu naan engine paadal Kannadhasan
  ezhudhiyadhu alla; adhai ezhudhiyavar Kothamangalam Subbu.
  
  Sari, idhO naan collect seydha Kannadhasan nagaichchuvai paadalgaL:
  
  'Baga Pirivinai' padaththil peNgaL silar oonamuLLa naayaganai kEli
  seyvadhu pOlum, naayagan avargaLai badhiladi koduppadhum kavinjarin
  indha nagaichchuvai paadalil varum:
  piLLaiyaaru kOyilukku pozhidhirukka vandhirukkum piLLai yaaru
  
  'Padiththaal mattum podhuma' padaththil kOmaaLi kOmaaLi endru oru
  paadal. yaarukkaavadhu details theriyumO?
  
  'Alayamani' padaththil SSR-S.Devi paadum maanaattam thanga mayilaattam
  paadalai Kavinjar nalla nagaichuvaiyudan ezhudhiyuLLaar.
  
  thangai, thanakku varap pOgum aNNiyai patri aNNanidam kEli seydhu paadum
  paadal: aahaa mangaLa mELam kotti muzhanga maNamagaL vandhaal thanga
  thErilE. padam: Kai Koduththa Dheivam.
  
  paadikkoNdE edhirigaLudan dishum pOduvaar Ravichandran, 'enga paappaa'
  padaththil. andha situation-ukku nagaichchuvaiyudan Kannadhasan ezhudhiya
  paadal: naan pOttaal theriyum pOdu. indha paadalil vallinam,
  mellinam, idaiyinam endra ilakkaNa soRkkaLai, nadakkum dishum-dishum-ukku
  EtraaRpOl azhagaaga puguththiyuLLaar kavinjar.
  
  thaan maNakkap pOgum paNakkaarap peNNin (J) veettirkku iravil Ravichandran
  varum pOdhu thoongik koNdirukkum Watch Man-ai vaiththu kEli seydhu oru
  kalakku kalakkum nagaichchuvai paadal: jaavrE jaa, indha gate-ukku nee
  raja; jaavrE jaa, indha veettukku naan raja. padam: Kumari PeN. idhE
  padaththil J&Co, pattikkaattu Ravichandran-ai galaattaa paNNum paadal:
  varushaththai paaru aRubaththi aaRu, uruvaththai paaru irubaththi aaRu.
  
  'iru malargaL' padaththil varum azhagaana nagaichchuvaip paadal: maha
  raja, oru maha rani, indha iruvarukkum oru kutti rani; idhai ezhudhiyavar
  kavinjar Kannadhasanaa illai Vaaliyaa endru theriyavillai.
  
  'edhir neechchal' paadalaana aduththaaththu ambujaththai paarththeeLaa
  ezhudhiyadhu Kannadhasan thaanE?
  
  'Bama Vijayam' padaththil innum iraNdu nagaichchuvai paadalgaL: ninaiththaal
  sirippu varum, matrum, kuLu kuLu azhagenna. iraNdum Nagesh-ukku.
  mudhal paadalai Nagesh manaivi Jayanthiyudan paaduvaar. (idhil, Nagesh kirukku
  pidichchadhu pOl ceiling mElellaam upsidedown-aaga nadappaar: nalla camera
  work. paadalilum niRaya nagaichchuvai endru enakku njaabagam.) iraNdaavadhu
  paadalil Nagesh nadigai Bama (Rajshree) patri dream adippaar. indha paadalgaL
  Kannadhasan ezhudhiyavai. idhE pOl kanni nadhiyOram enna alangOlam
  endra paadalai Nagesh-Jayanthi oru KBalachander padaththil paaduvaargaL.
  enna padam? (Prakash Sir, please help.)
  
  'Anubavi Raja Anubavi' padaththil varum Madras nalla Madras paadalil
  nalla nagaichchuvaiyudan urban-lifestyle-ai thaakkiyirukkaar. azhagaana
  paadal. aanaal Moore Market etc patri avar thaakkiyadhu Madras vaasigaLukku
  pidikkalai. muththukkuLikka vaareeyaLaa paadal patri Prakash Sir ERkanavE
  sollivittaar. enna arumaiyaana nagaichchuvai paadal! Prakash Sir: mudinjaa
  indha paadalgaLukku varigaL ingE ezhudhungaLEn, please.
  
  kiRukkan Cho-vai makkaL kiNdal paNNum paadal: pOttaaLE, unnaiyum oruththi
  peththu pOttaaLE; padam: Lakshmi Kalyanam.
  
  'Poova Thalaiyaa' padaththil varum pOda chonna pOttukkiREn matrum
  adi saridhaan pOdi vaayaadi paadalgaLai ezhudhiyadhu Kannadhasanaa
  illai Vaaliyaa?
  
  'Veettukku Veedu' padaththil Nagesh, Lakshmiyai patri dream adiththuk koNdu
  paadum paadal: malargaLil paduththavaL Sagundhalai annaaLil; en manadhinil
  niRaindhavaL maalathi innaaLil. idhai ezhudhiyadhu Kannadhasan. paadal
  mudivil, Lakshmikku pinnal jadai pOduvadhu pOl dream adhiththuk koNdu,
  arugil kudumiyudan paduththuk koNdirukkum appaa VKR-ukku jadai pOttu viduvaar
  Nagesh: a hilarious song! ip paadalil, mayangidaar my guitar
  pOndra vaarththaigaL aduththaduththa varigaLil rhyming aaha varum.
  
  veettil thanjam pugundhirukkum peNNai veettilirukkum pala iLainjargaL
  virumba, ellOrum dream adikkum paadal: uththaravindri uLLE vaa
  adhE peyaruLLa padaththil ip paadalai ezhudhiyavar Kannadhasan.
  
  pattikkaattu kaNavan, mElnaattil padiththa naagareega manaiviyidam num
  naattin paNbai nagaichuvaiyudan uNarththum paadal: kEttukkOdi uRumi
  mELam. padam: pattikkada pattanama.
  
  mEdaiyil sirippu kattaththukku nadigan nadikka vENdum; nadikkap pOvadhaRkku
  satru mun than thangai prasavaththin pOdhu iRandha seydhi varudhu. sirippu
  paadalil nadiththukkoNdE than thunbaththaiyum solli azhugiRaan andha nadigan.
  indha situation-ukku Kannadhasan ezhudhiya paadal: jijinukkaan jinnukkadi.
  paadalin naduvE varum vari: thunbam varum vELaiyilE siringa endru solli
  vachchaar vaLLuvarum saringa. nadagaththai paarppOr ap paadalai kEtkum
  pOdhu sirippu varum varigaLi kEttu; naam andha nadigan nilaiyil paarkkum pOdhu
  azhugai tharum adhE varigaL. padam: Rajapart Rangadhurai.
  
  'Sooryakanthi' padaththil Manorama paadi nadiththa nagaichchuvai paadal:
  theriyaadhO nOkku theriyaadhO. paruvamadaindha iLam kanniyarum
  kumararum eppadi infatuated aagi kaadhal mayakkaththil thappukkaL seygindranar
  endru sirippudan suttikkaattum paadal idhu.
  
  SivaperumaanE oru comedy role-il varum kattam 'Thiruvilayadal' padaththil
  varum. Madurai vaasigaLukku mun viRagu vettiyaaga Sivaperumaan paadum paadal:
  paaththaa pasu maram, padukka vachchaa nedu maram, kEttaa velaikku aagumaa,
  njaana thangamE. ip paadalil karuththu kalandha nalla nagaichchuvai uNdu.
  ip paadalukku mun varum AP Nagarajan vasanangaLum (viRagu vetti Madurai
  vaasigaLudan pEsuvadhu) nagaichchuvai kalandha karuththu mikkavai enbadhaiyum
  kuRippida vENdum.
  
  nichchayam innum pala udhaaraNangaL irukkum. enakku avai njaabagam varum
  pOdhu ezhudhaREn. adhuvarai: Bye.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-16.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Sun Aug 9 12:38:18 EDT 1998
  
  Reva nalla list but andha listle pala Vaali paadalgal irukku.'edhir neechal','bama vijayam','poova thalaiya' ellaam vaali ezhudhiya paadalgalae.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Aug 10 01:06:30 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki, Prakash,
  'en kanmani un kaadhali' is neither by Vaali, nor by Panchu, and NOT by Kannadasan either. It is by a person named Kovai Balu. I don't remember to have noticed any other song by him.
  
  Perhaps, some of you "pisthas" will be able to shed some light on Kovai Balu's works in TFM :))
  
  
• From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate2.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Mon Aug 10 16:55:15 EDT 1998
  
  Reva,
  List super... KB padagaL-la problem uNdu..
  Neenga ketta Nagesh-Jayathi pattu Neerkumizhi padathila varudhu. Andha padathu pattukkaL ezhuthiyavar Vaali.
  
  
  KB-yoda padagaL-la
  Neer Kumizhi, Poova Thalaiya, 100/100,Major Chandrakanth, Edhir N-eechal N-iraya doubt uNdu. Idhula evvaLavu pattu Vaali ezhuthinadhu. evvaLavu Vaali ezhuthinadhunu theriyadhu.
  
  enakku
  muththu kuLikka VaarigaLa... pattu full-a theiryadhu hi, hi...:):):)
  
  BTW Sir ellam vEndAM.
  
  BTW Udhaya N-eenga Sir-a illa Saree-a???:):):)
  
  Ramki...
  Bhama vijayam songs... (ellama??nu theriyadhu...)
  varavu ettaNa selavu pathaNa..., was written by KaNNadhasan.
  
  adhyE 'varavu ettaNa selavu pathaNa' padathila vara pattu
  kaNNadhasan solli vechchan pattula, varavuthan ettaNa, neenga seiyumm selavu mattum paththaNam.... by Vali.
  
  Ramki,
  en kaNmani, en kadhali... pattukku
  edhukku source keTTeNu?? N-ee un memory-la irundhu sollarEnu theriyum. Pattu style Vaali madhiri illai. sameebathila RTM/RCS and India Direct-la pattu ketkum podhu
  KaNNadhasan ezhuthinanadhunu sonnanga. ippo Viswa vandhu innoru kUNdai thooki podaraar.
  
  Viswa sonna madhiri "pistha"-kkaLE
  idhai kaNNdu pidichchu sollungappa.:):)::)
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Mon Aug 10 16:58:09 EDT 1998
  
  OOOpsss...
  
  ....Idhula evvaLavu pattu Vaali ezhuthinadhu. evvaLavu Vaali ezhuthinadhunu theriyadhu.
  
  this should be
  
  idhula evvaLavu paattu Vaali ezhuthinadhu?
  evvaaLavu pattu KaNNadhasan ezhuthinadhunu theriyadhnu
  
  Sorry about the confusion.
  
  
  
  

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