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PITHAMAGAN RELEASED

Topic started by SIVA (@ 203.195.184.205) on Thu Oct 2 05:03:36 EDT 2003.
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THE MOST AWAITED MAESTRO'S PITHMAGAN RELASED NY FIVE STAR AUDIOS Y'DAY.

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• From: Senty (@ 67.30.208.197) on: Fri Dec 5 05:42:52 EST 2003
  
  Is this because of the lack of "class" that you can see in some movies of ManiRathnam being evidently absent in Bala's?
  
  Explain me CLASS...
  
  if someone take's a movie about a middle/upper middle class city guy/gal very beautiful looking,young,intelligent, mischeivous.wears colorful T-shirts/sarees sings songs in beautiful locations.talks HAIKU & unspontaneous dialouges.Pretty much a charecter that you would want to be one.Then it is CLASS i guess.
  
  It is not CLASS if you go to your roots and talk about real life people.charecters forgotten by the society and More realistic.when was the last time u saw a village in mani's movie.Was thiruda thiruda more realistic.two villagers prashanth & Mr.X(forgot his name)so well charecterised,a template of how villagers should be.And roja, the stupid accents and very happy and playful villagers, very realistic.In a perfect world maybe villages will be like that.you are still in the dream that mani has given you,wake up...
  
  please, come out of your glamour world.good photography does not mean it is classy,choosing a newpaper headline is not classy, doing a cut and paste of english movies is not classy.guess you are a city breed guy ,viewing the world with big glamour glasses.but there is a big world after the city limits and this movie has already gone down as a classic.
  
  
• From: Vatsa (@ 160.83.32.14) on: Fri Dec 5 09:02:43 EST 2003
  
  I like the attempt by Bala. There is obviously going to be some faults. Also, I feel you should not expect "cinematic" stuff like Bala should explain why Vikram is like that. Its like watching old Balachander movie where the characters are introduced by someone else and explain their characteristics (which are sometime annoying) and writes on hand, head what else .... those things are absurd.
  MR has so many faults in his movies ....
  
  tell me why Shobana loves Rajnikanth in Dalapathi?
  According to your earlier argument, he glorifies Rajnikanth in the movie when he kills a policeman. Moreover, in all his old movies .. he has annoying dialogues which are not even realistic. Iruvar is a great example. I dont think any politician (in this case it depicts karunanidhi) who speaks in pure tamil, recites poem most of the time dont you feel its crap, even in his house with his wife. Also, the dialogues were childish (suhasini has done a great job annoying us), if you can understand it.
  MR hides all this stuff by his brilliant scenes visuals and music.
  
  Sridhar and Balachander,
  
  Some of sridhars movies are exaggerated. most Balachander movies are.
  
  Everyone has their advantages and disdvantages ... they try to improve and no one is perfect.
  
  Balachander - Good story line and dialogues (more drama stuff), sometimes annoying scenes like people writing on boards, hands and all those stuff and call it directorial touch.
  
  MR - Sometimes very ambitious and misses the facts. Need to improve on dialogues. Otherwise he has all other stuff.
  
  Bala -- so far so good. Need to divert his attention to other kind of movies.
  
  There are great directors like Mahendran and Balu Mahendra who should be considered. Shankar movies are crap and has lot of holes in it.
  
  I dont think Bala is wrong in this ...
  Sun TV is not consistent with its reviews.
  
  
• From: Pulley (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Fri Dec 5 09:55:51 EST 2003
  
  Will, neenga professor-a? unga posts-ellam 2 semester-ku record ezhudhina maari margin potu neat-a irukku
  
  
• From: Pulley (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Fri Dec 5 09:56:06 EST 2003
  
  Will, neenga professor-a? unga posts-ellam 2 semester-ku record ezhudhina maari margin potu neat-a irukku :)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.44) on: Fri Dec 5 11:25:16 EST 2003
  
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  Bala is unique but others are good as well. I would not include shankar in this list.
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  I like the attempt by Bala. There is obviously going to be some faults.
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  Vatsa, thanks for capturing my mind and posting it here :-).
  
  Yes, i do like the movie. And as you have said there are pitfalls here and there in the movie but still i like it. All I wanted to register is:
  1) this movie is not pitfall-free
  2) other form of film making is also good.
  
  
• From: j (@ 61.1.202.98) on: Fri Dec 5 12:26:36 EST 2003
  
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews/news/vikram.asp
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Fri Dec 5 14:16:50 EST 2003
  
  My 2 Cents.
  Whoever calls PM whatever..
  1. First of all everybody wants to explain everything.. but i think this shows Bala's brilliance of touching a character to the level he wants on the screen and leave it to the viewers imagination I think that is a gr8 novelty.
  2. PM : the narration goes as a series of Events rather than a one long story.. there is no flash backs. Each character has a childish part, the animal part, the man/woman part.. Bala defines them through actions in each situation.. either showing Vikram biting the throat or Sangeeta beating Vikram with the broomstick..
  
  This shows how the characters understand themselves and each other.
  
  Nobody is perfect. but the good thing is the movie is enjoyed by a regular movie-goer and a hardcore critic.. So the pitfalls come in the way of Commercial Cinema, but intelligence comes in the form of Art behind the film
  
  
• From: sangameshwar (@ 210.214.132.164) on: Sat Dec 6 10:25:20 EST 2003
  
  i really wanted such a review of the so-called genius Mani rathnam. After nayagan, his movies are irritating to the core - including dhalapathi. But for IR and PC sriram, the movie is a big joke ! Dialogues. , that too, in such a low tone, like , "yenna" , "niruthu", yaen" are really frustrating.. i wonder if anybody in real life would talk like that ...
  bombay, for the theme, was a good attempt, but again, the first half was horrible.
  and the comedy scenes in MR's movies.. really make u laugh...at the director's clear inability in this forte! classic example would be agni natchathram... where veterans like VKR and janagaraj would have been criminally wasted..
  the list goes on !!
  
  
• From: chandler (@ 68.35.127.152) on: Sat Dec 6 19:52:19 EST 2003
  
  sangameshwar and musicforlife,
  
  I agree pithamagan is a good film but certainly not a great film...
  The tragic climax is just to showcase the acting skills of the two actors..and it doesnt add to the quality of the film at all.. I feel he was trying to manipulate the emotions of the audience..if u see his previous films, one can understand that ...morbid feeling through out the film....create some happy moments where auidence can enjoy and cut short the enjoyment by a tragedy...I dont blame him for this style but all directors do that..
  
  
• From: velji (@ 61.11.80.133) on: Sat Dec 6 21:54:28 EST 2003
  
  Dear Music is life
  You have correctly observed That "PM : the narration goes as a series of Events rather than a one long story.. there is no flash backs. Each character has a childish part, the animal part, the man/woman part.. Bala defines them through actions in each situation" Yes! this is a general departure from the routine film makers who itch to have the cliches of flash backs, irrelevent fights,songs etc. Each character is an entity and at the same time fits into the general format except the character of Laila. Why an educated girl loiters with this god forshaken group is a mystery eventhough she may love Surya.
  
  In order to emphasize on his animal nature , if only Bala had added a scene like this (narated below) attributed towards his formating years in the grave yard, it would have added more pep and authenticity for his growls and biting the throat.
  
  As an adolescent Chithan, a fight between Chithan and a wolf which come to eat a half burnt body in the grave yard may have been conceived in the screenplay (and filmed in the style of OMEN where Gregory Peck fights with a pack of wolves in a graveyard,) where after all his efforts fail to overpower the animal he bites the throat of the wolf.
  
  This act repeated again with the other sumbolic wolf , the Ganja grower, will add much more credence, to his charecterisation.
  
  
• From: velji (@ 61.11.80.133) on: Sat Dec 6 22:07:28 EST 2003
  
  Hi! Sangameshwar
  
  Your observations on MR are perfectly correct. I always had these reservations. His debut (?) movie "Mouna Ragam" was a carbon copy of Mahendran's "Nenjathai Killathe" and as you have said except Nayagan, all other movies are hybrid
  and insipid particularly "Thalapathi" where the Hero is shown as a "porukki" who is on a killing spree.
  
  Even in Bombay the climax is so naively conceived.
  The hero talks to a small group of rioters to lay down arms, which makes a "chain" reaction and the riots stop ! This is not only silly but also a copy from a similar scene in V. Santharam's " NAVRANG" the hero a very young man will harang to a group elderly rioters and they drop their swords. That movie was a total failure (probabaly for this stupid scene) except for a good song "Geeth gaya patharone- ne"
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 12.210.111.76) on: Sat Dec 6 23:01:37 EST 2003
  
  Guys,
  Please try not to digress too much from the basic theme of this thread. I know that it has happenend quite a bit in the past and it is very tempting, but I think if you just want to discuss about the movie you should go to the forumhub and continue there.
  
  If people can analyse the BGM in the movie and tell how much it actually reflected the feelings of the characters in the scenes or how much the silence at parts elevated the tension in the scenes, that would be really interesting. I would really love to read some technical scrutiny (whether it was appropriate or in-appropriate) of the music score in the scenes. Rather than worry about the so-called "class" of directors who are dime a dozen and do not have clue one as to how to picturize the amazing songs that the maestro dishes out for them. No offense to any fans of any directors, but people will agree with me that, by and large, that directors have failed to really make use of Raaja's songs.
  
  
• From: sangameshwar (@ 210.214.128.160) on: Sun Dec 7 05:27:00 EST 2003
  
  MR's debut movie is PAGAL NILAVU..
  well.. i never said PM is a good movie.. the simran sequence and quite a number of scenes involving surya and laila definitely bring down the value of this film.. i can't take it a bit when ppl call this a CLASS movie , with these kinda scenes .., very particularly, the 'kaathu pirikkum' explanation.. yuck !
  i don't know where in a 'relatively remote' hamlet like sholavandhan, girls freely talk to 'porukki' guys like surya, let alone go on a 'jolly piggy-back'!! highly ridiculous..
  and how on earth laila's father in the movie (a respectable doctor) could allow his daughter to roam around with an undertaker, a loafer and a 'ganja' female just like that.. c'mon !! is this the reality they intend to show??
  ppl nowadays have a conception that if the movie is morbid, it is a 'class' movie.. and the movie would be discussed for "OSCARS" !!!!!
  i'd gone to this movie for the 10PM show, and the climax "OPPARI" scene was at 1 AM !! i feel some 'obvious realities' are better not shown in movies !
  but for thalaivar's grand music & a few individual performances of vikram and sangeetha (rasika), the movie is a crap..
  
  

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