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Creativity of Ilaiyaraja

Topic started by Bhaskar (@ ww-tk02.proxy.aol.com) on Sat Jan 3 00:48:33 EST 1998.
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• From: sathya (@ client-151-200-127-148.bellatlantic.net) on: Sun Mar 1 09:59:32 EST 1998
  
  Mail is on the way. I hope it will reach Raja soon. My friend's name is Socrates. He is associate dir. of "Manasukkul Varalama". He has links with son of R.D.Baskar, the elder brother of Raja.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ relay.jtscorp.com) on: Sat Apr 25 10:08:09 EDT 1998
  
  Hello friends:
  
  My name is Sriram, and I work in a MNC at Madras. Like all of you, I believe that Ilayaraja is one of the geniuses of Indian cinema. I would like to share with you the names of certain movies which I believe contain some of Raja's best songs.
  
  Before I proceed to do so, let me name THE ONE MOVIE which I personally rate as Raja's ALL TIME BEST. Now, I am sure that most of you would not have heard about this movie, since it got released only for the afternoon show in one of the theatres in Devi Complex, Madras, where it ran only for a couple of weeks (in the late 1970s). Nevertheless, I and a small coterie of my friends (hardcore Raja fans) believe that this specific movie is indeed Raja's best. The name of the movie is:
  
  Eera Vizhi Kaaviyangal
  Literally translated, so that you all get the name right, the name is:
  Eera (Wet) Vizhi (Eyes) Kaaviyangal (epic tale)
  
  From what I understand from my brother, who is the only person I know who has seen this movie, Raja scored music free for this movie (director was the late Bhim Singh's son). Raja has experiemented a lot in this movie, and the songs in this movie can be rated along with the world's best recorded music such as Miles Davis' "Kind of Blues" album, Tchaikovsky's "Swan Song", etc.
  
  Here are the other movies which contain absolutely phenomenal Raja songs:
  1. Nizhal thedum nenjangal
  2. Archani pookkal
  3. Metti
  4. Ponnu oorukku pudusu
  5. Chakkalathi
  6. Nandu
  7. Pootadha Poottukkal
  8. Kann Sivandhal Mann Sivakkum
  9. Manjal Nila
  10. Ruchi Kanda Poonai
  11. Gramathu Athiyayam
  12. Aval appadi than
  13. Kazhugu
  14. Thai Pongal
  15. Kallukul eeram
  16. Bhagavadhi puram railway gate
  17. Avar enekke sondham
  18. Poondhalir
  19. Karumu vil
  20. Mudhal iravu
  21. Uravadum nenjam
  The list goes on ....
  
  The above is just an extract from the comprehensive database of Raja's "enduring best" songs, which I am constructing now.
  
  For a long time, I and our small group have monopolized "Eera Vizhi Kaaviyangal". It is time that this is shared with all Raja music lovers.
  
  I have managed to locate these songs from a music shop in Ambattur which is closing now. Should any of you guys need any of these songs, please let me know. I can send one cassette to one of you, and you guys can get it copied and distributed amongst yourselves and with other Raja fans you may know of.
  
  By the way, I am planning to meet Raja personally to find out whether he agrees with our rating of "Eera vizhi kaaviyangal" as his all-time best. I am very sure that he will be quite surprised that anyone even knows about this movie, much less anyone having heard the 5 songs in the movie over 10,000 times (that's right, 10,000 times translates to approx. 174 days of listening time). And, I am sure, I will listen to these songs another 10k times, if I live that long. Once you listen to these songs, they start growing inside you, and become a part of your mental furniture, your psychological fabric!
  
  Ram
  
  
• From: Nithin (a devotee of this great Raja) (@ nc36.pr.mcs.net) on: Thu Apr 30 01:59:47 EDT 1998
  
  Ram
  
  I tried hard last time I was in Chennai, to get hold of this album. Era Vizhi Kaviyangal. I hold the same opinion as you and your friends about EVK. I have never seen Raja experiment as he has done in this album and produce an impossible creation. I also rate it alongside Tchaikovsky's ballet overtures. In fact, in western classical music Tchaikvosky, Beethoven and Chopin have produced some unusual music, just as Raja is doing today by the thousands!
  
  I need to get hold of this album and I would like to have someone from home contact you and pick up a original cassette or recording from you.
  
  I used to be a visitor some 15 years back at Prasad studios to watch Raja. What is the latest from Prasad studios? Can you give us at TFM an update? What is this song from the movie POONTHOTTAM. Please reply to us at TFM
  
  
• From: Sujatha Chandrasekaran (@ ww-te05.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Jun 4 23:33:47 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  I want to list some more old IR films and would like to know whether it is possible to get CDs or Cassettes of these films.
  
  Lakshmi - Melam kotta neram varum
  Atchani - Madha un koilil mani dheepam
  Thallata pillai ondru
  Thirukalyanam - Alaiye Kadal alaiye
  Kavi kuyil - Chinna kannan alaikiran
  Kuyile kavi kuyile
  Kathal oviyum kanden
  Paalutti valartha kili - Naan pesa vandhen
  Jothi - Siricha kolli mala kuyilu
  Anbey Odi Vaa - Alagana pookall
  Manaivi Solley mandhiram - Maney manguiley
  Aathadi athisayam
  Pattakathi bairavan - Engengo sellum en ennangal
  Devathai oru devathai
  Akal villaku - Eatho ninaivukal manathiley
  
  I still have lot more.
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc36.pr.mcs.net) on: Sat Jun 6 19:36:42 EDT 1998
  
  (PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS A DUPLICATE POSTING)
  
  IT will be a good change of style or pace for Raja, if directors like Sankar really could get Raja to compose for them.
  
  Most importantly, I feel it is time IR ventured out on creating songs or music more introspective in nature, you know, slower, deliberate concerto style and fewer of the catchy quick paced melody numbers. I think Vidyasagar is someone who is trying to do something of that nature, but is not quite effective. It is really noticeable in the interludes of Vidyasagar.
  
  Symphonies are by nature somewhat introspective and it will be a revelation to see, if IR has really got into that mood, when the Symphony is within our reach soon.
  
  
  Such introspective music will be practicable if we have the musicals/opera type theater performances. Something like the CATS, Phantom of the Opera, Jesus Christ Superstar or Marriage of the Figaro. I think a market for such kind of creativity have yet to emerge in India. Most of western classical music is devoted to romance and introspection.
  
  However, if such themes arise, IR can really have a field time producing those one hour long albums which are slow in nature and have the basis for producing a theme that develop gradually. Aah, yes I remember the best example is the Miss World Contest for which IR composed music. However, that had short pieces with more emphasis given on dance tempo.
  
  Just what I feel is what would be a change of pace for Illaiyaraja. What do you folks think?
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc36.pr.mcs.net) on: Sat Jun 6 19:41:52 EDT 1998
  
  Sujatha
  
  Some of your songs are available at this site:
  
  http://www.mail-bag.com
  
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Jun 6 23:33:14 EDT 1998
  
  Nithin: Please do not post the same things to every thread you feel has the slightest relevance to the topic. Choose one and post it there. This is not the first time you are doing this. Do try not to get carried away by your enthusiasm. :-)
  
  
• From: venus (@ 16.san-francisco-08.ca.dial-access.att.net) on: Sun Jun 7 01:25:08 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Ram,
  I grew up listening to Rajaa's everlastings music.
  I dont know how I missed this one.
  I would like to get a copy of EVK cassette. I am in LA. I ahev friends in madras who can contact you. Could you let me how to contact you.
  I will be more than happy to get that album.
  Coul you pl. reply to snambisan@worldnet.att.net
  
  
• From: venus (@ 16.san-francisco-08.ca.dial-access.att.net) on: Sun Jun 7 01:26:39 EDT 1998
  
  Sorry for the spelling mistakes
  (sattre unarchivasappattuvitean polae..)
  
  
• From: Veera Akkoor (@ 1cust125.tnt2.det1.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jun 7 02:35:40 EDT 1998
  
  I also need a copy of EVK. I am a hardcore fan of the maestro. I also have some of the songs needed by MS.Sujatha Chandrasekaran. I can help you get them. Has anyone heard Raja's Telugu beats. They are superb and classic to hear. I can get them to anyone needed.
  It is really great and I look forward for a reply soon. I live in Detroit.
  
  
• From: Thiagaraj S (@ 208.7.182.117) on: Sun Jun 7 14:33:40 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Sujatha and Veera,
  I was going through the discussion and it was really great. Sujatha, like you I am fan of Raja's songs and old tamil songs. www.tamilwold.com has a pretty good collection of songs and it has songs like 'Eatho ninaivukal manathiley' and much more.
  And Veera, I am interested in getting hold of raja's rare tamil and Telegu song collection. If you could help out with it I will be thankful.
  I live in New York. Bye for now.
  
  
• From: Ganesh Chandrasekaran (@ 12.6.206.143) on: Fri Jun 26 13:05:39 EDT 1998
  
  Hi
  Im also a fan of Raaja .
  I also need the copy of EVK.
  My Email ID is cganesh@hotmail.com.
  I live in Boston. If someone here got the cassette
  now please e-mail me. I will get from u.
  cheers
  Ganesh
  
  
  
• From: Jeyavel sinha.S. (@ 202.141.24.2) on: Mon Jun 29 09:50:33 EDT 1998
  
  Hai folks,
  
  I am an addictive fan of Maestro Raja . Particularly I am interested in his early eighties collection. I would like to have a copy of EVK.
  
  If any one know the place, please inform me.I
  will try hard to get it.I would be very grateful if
  I get information about more old songs of Raja
  from the fellow fans.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 128.96.140.26) on: Tue Jun 30 13:46:15 EDT 1998
  
  Well, I have all the songs of EVK. One of the brilliant albums ever produced by Raja. It has five songs in all. Two of them are sung by K.J.Yesudas. Rest by Raja. I live at Edison, NJ. The recording was done by me from an obscure music store at Ambattur (believe me, I had to hunt it down all the way from Meenambakkam). The recording is from a EP disc with lot of scratch noise. I can not help it. If somebody is interested, let me know. May be, I can mail a copy. How much would be the shipping cost for a kaset in U.S ?
  
  
  
  
• From: Bharat (@ isdbsd1-inet.ci.mil.wi.us) on: Tue Jun 30 14:14:26 EDT 1998
  
  Sridhar:
  
  Could you list the names of all the songs from Eera Vizhi Kaaviyangal? Thanks.
  
  

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