Topic started by Kabilan (@ 219.95.195.114) on Tue Jan 27 23:35:19 EST 2004.
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finally ...the most awaited arr's project "meenai released today....
source from rahmanonline.com
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- From: Prem (@ 130.225.53.16)
on: Mon Feb 9 04:09:46 EST 2004
Have you heard lakeer (songs from the tamil movie RHYTHM) songs? Rahman always adds some extra sounds to hindi songs, ehy does he do that? Rahman had done it with kadhalan, bobay, indian in hindi version.
I like daler mehndis "nachley" suberb handling by daler.
The king of music Rulez. Keep it up Dileep Kumar (Rahmans real name)
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Mon Feb 9 12:24:40 EST 2004
Neither IR or ARR can assure a hit and ARR working harder/spending more time will not help. The best approach is to generate lots of tunes like IR and have the producers/directors select it.
IR/ARR have given hits in recent times.. ARR gets better marks with the recording aspect. but IR cannot be flanked out coz Virumandi and PM kicks royal butt!!
Again, i dont see ne resemblance.
Speed: that is not ARR style, and his hardwork is really paying off.
- From: Ilayaraja (@ 195.92.67.76)
on: Mon Feb 9 14:34:28 EST 2004
ARR is GOD!!ARR is St Thyagaraja reincarnated..He is the kali yuga avatar for music..
- From: Dude (@ 24.12.172.187)
on: Mon Feb 9 16:53:58 EST 2004
MIl, a great advantage in IR's method is: as the number of tunes composed increases it becomes very difficult for anyone to find out any similarities between one tune and another.
God knows how many tunes are there which sound like "malai kovil vaasalil" and "ilankathu veesuthe" and such...
But due to the small number of tunes ARR composes, any such similarities are highlighted to the core. For ex. "vennilave/chanda re" sounds close to "sunta hai mera khudah" from pukar.
I think it is pretty brave of ARR not to take IR's route and compose tunes by the dozen and releasing them. It is a big risk to deal with a few tunes, working on them, building up layers upon layers of music. All this hard work could end up to nothing if the song is not a hit. IR eliminated this risk by the sheer number of tunes he composes/composed.
- From: Rakesh (@ 68.125.78.98)
on: Mon Feb 9 18:36:55 EST 2004
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And also to clarify the false claims made by the tamil school teachers that tamil is the only language to have zha, malayalam also has zha and what more all malayalees can pronounce 'zha' beautifully unlike tamilians "
As a matter of fact, tracing the linguistic origin, malayalam had its origin from tamil. Malayalam had its origin in 9th century. It got separated from tamil language, and hence you find 'zha' also in malayalam. So, indeed the tamil language teachers were correct in saying that 'zha' is only available in tamil language. Tamilz alive for a longgg time with a unique script, alive and kicking !! just fyi ...
- From: SS (@ 65.48.229.26)
on: Mon Feb 9 19:15:35 EST 2004
Another big let down by ARR! What is happening ARR? Is that all you got. We are waiting for some good songs
- From: Dandanaka (@ 66.135.184.19)
on: Mon Feb 9 20:19:20 EST 2004
C~P ennange...endha site oru thoona irukkum neengalae innum meenaxi cd vaangala naa...appuram eppadi...
nate..aamai innoru thundu vithuduvaaru....
and btw i did try to get it back to 8 :) lol
no chance...i had a whole group against me (atleast it looked like it)
paran u dont understand one thing....a lot of ppl have nothing to do :) so they keep themselves busy by doing all this...
its the critics who listen to the albums more than the fans :) lol
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Tue Feb 10 09:12:37 EST 2004
Dude
All this hard work could end up to nothing if the song is not a hit. IR eliminated this risk by the sheer number of tunes he composes/composed
I dont think IR eliminated the Risk.
In my opinion he is a very natural composer and very quick.. though we talk about resemblence, the highlight was IR did not have the resemblance that tantamounts to a lot when he was giving continuous hits.
ARR on the other hand has to cater to a much more wider audience owing to his commitments, might be that is what is pinning him down
- From: C~P (@ 61.1.200.168)
on: Tue Feb 10 11:49:10 EST 2004
Dandanka,
enna seyya, ellam bad time! Innikku vaangalaamnu ponaen....romba surusuruppa poi paartha paisa eduthukka marandhuttaen! vithiii valiyadhu!! :-)
btw...enakku naalaikku probability test irukku...so idha kandukkaatheenga...
A : Event that C~P listens to Meenaxi
B : Event that Naatamai sells thundu
A and B are by default Independent Events! :-)
don't bother about the rating though...yaaravadhu kaetta IR eppadi award vaenaamnu sonnarom, adhey maadhiri ARR rating vaenaamnu sonnaar-nu sollikkalaam! ;-)
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Tue Feb 10 12:02:28 EST 2004
btw C~P
According to Naat..
B:Event that ARR gives thundu!!
Which is lame!!
- From: C~P (@ 61.1.200.168)
on: Tue Feb 10 12:21:47 EST 2004
According to Naattamai, P(B) = 1 //for his definition of B
According to me, P(B) = 1 //for my definition of B
So, if we represent B as a truth variable, is it possible to say that B is always true and hence B and hence it is a tautology?
p.s. : don temme u understood...that was supposed to confuse people! :-)
- From: jnt (@ 4.17.250.5)
on: Tue Feb 10 12:28:12 EST 2004
Mr. Rakesh
However you put it, the fact stated is indeed true!
Tamils have no idea how to pronounce 'zha'. They say 'Valapalam' in a sickening manner! Each and every malayalee will pronounce zha, like pavazham mazha etc.
SO whats the point of one language being more old than the other when the people have no idea of how to pronounce some letters inscibed in that language. If it is indeed true that malayalam is a spliut from TAmil then it is even more shameful on us Tamilians not being able to pronounce letters in our own language while those who copied are doing a brilliant job!
- From: C~P (@ 61.1.200.168)
on: Tue Feb 10 12:34:30 EST 2004
jnt,
I can pronounce 'zha' correctly and I am a Tamizhan! :-)
btw...seriously spking...most people don't get it properly...but others do...ennayum andha list-la saekkatheenga!
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Tue Feb 10 18:25:15 EST 2004
JNT
What u say might be true that Tamil's dont know how to pronounce zha, but the fact that it is there cannot be denied.
I guess Rakesh point was Malayalam split from Tamil so there is no surprise for Malayalam to have it, and hence we could say Tamil or Tamil derived languages have 'zha'
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Tue Feb 10 18:25:54 EST 2004
C~P
sorry i understood ur probability
- From: Piratheepan (@ 68.88.4.240)
on: Tue Feb 10 19:07:02 EST 2004
well who needs that many letters
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.241)
on: Wed Feb 11 08:51:40 EST 2004
Folks,
Why is this thread silent?
Why arent you rahmaniacs talking about Meenaxi?
Got bored with it within the few days of its release?
Just thinking what you maniacs are going to answer?
Now do you accept IIR is always number one, which i stress.
Look you can listen to IIR songs anytime of the year.
And someone said ARR is going to get the 5th National award, he might have to kiss that dream bye bye.
This proves IIR worth.
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.241)
on: Wed Feb 11 08:54:44 EST 2004
Rahman is nothing but a Isai suniyam.
Thats all time is over for ARR.
Ask him to play with his kids.
IIR is there to destroy him, Poor Menaxi, nobody listens.
Just cant stop laughing.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Wed Feb 11 09:41:22 EST 2004
RS,
Is it really U?
I am one of the ppl listening to Meenaxi
- From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226)
on: Wed Feb 11 09:47:21 EST 2004
I know malayalam is more difficult than tamizh.
It's got more tongue-twisting (nose-twister?? he.. he..) letters than tamizh.
Thamizhil, 'zha' solla theriyaadhadhu ondrum kutramillai. Paadum podhu than keatka sagikka villai. Adhu thappu endru realize pannama iruppadhu than tappu. Our MDs should straight away reject those singers who can't pronounce it properly. I hated ARR for using utitand many others, USR as a singer, IR for using bhavatharini. MSV never did that. KVM never did that and MDs before him never did that. (latest vayatherichal is in E20U18, that 'gama gama' song. Enna oru tamizh sevai! pullarikkudhu! Andha George peter paradhesi enna paaduraanney theriyala. Ithellam thevaya? ARR-kku nichayam naragam thaan!)
Anyway, 'zha' endra ezhuthai chinna vayasilrudhey solli pazhaga vendum. 'zha' mattum illai. Vallinam, mellinam ellam kooda. Adhai parents than encourage panna vendum. 'zha' vai 'la' endru solvadhu fashion aagi vittaal, adhai vida kodumai veru edhuvum ellai!
- From: C~P (@ 61.2.224.121)
on: Wed Feb 11 12:40:08 EST 2004
MIL,
yaenpa, menakettu manushan "PS" ellam poattaen, purinjuthu-nu solli ippadi heart-a break panniteengaley!! :-(
btw...just got Meenaxi...oru listening-key I liked it very much!! The Asha Bhosle stuff was tooo cool!!!
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.1.27)
on: Wed Feb 11 13:08:34 EST 2004
MIL,
Dats not me buddy, its thiru aka srinivas playing around... ironically he reflects my thoughts 99%. let him enjoy i too am enjoying his posts. C~P too didnt notice the difference in IP's and answered for one by him. neway u know my idea abt meenaxi. i posted it a few days back.
- From: jnt (@ 4.17.250.5)
on: Wed Feb 11 17:10:29 EST 2004
cho
I agree with you. Instead of the breast-beating we do if we devote that energy to improve whatever tamil we have learnt it will do us every good
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