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Ivan by IR - Released

Topic started by Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on Mon Jun 3 00:22:11 EDT 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

http://www.dinakaran.com/daily/2002/Jun/03/cinema/cineNews0.html

Any reviews, opinions yet?

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• From: Kannan (@ 194.201.128.5) on: Fri Jun 21 06:29:09 EDT 2002
  
  avr>>>
  there are some .ra clips available just to get a tast of the album.... follow the link below
  
  http://www.raajangahm.com/filmalbums/y2k2.html
  
  ~:) Kannan
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.248.176) on: Fri Jun 21 06:53:02 EDT 2002
  
  kannan.. u've got a kudumi??!! :)
  
  
• From: musicfan (@ 198.82.174.221) on: Fri Jun 21 14:23:00 EDT 2002
  
  I have been waiting to listen to the songs somehwere online cos in hte US I dont think the cassettes are availalbe in any place close enuf to me.
  Are the songs of Ivan available anywhere online at all ???
  
  
• From: Supriya (@ 65.210.170.139) on: Fri Jun 21 18:04:58 EDT 2002
  
  Neels,
  Thanks for the informative review. After reading it I am dying to buy the CD. Can somebody tell me where it is available in the US?
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 12.234.130.220) on: Sat Jun 22 03:05:27 EDT 2002
  
  The background score of the yet to be released "Ivan" includes Surendar's voice too
  http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/stories/2002062101570300.htm
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ 170.140.250.78) on: Sat Jun 22 18:14:19 EDT 2002
  
  Check out Ivann's official website:
  http://www.ivann.com/
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.248.125) on: Sun Jun 23 00:45:54 EDT 2002
  
  what is e1 about??
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.133) on: Sun Jun 23 12:04:41 EDT 2002
  
  the story i mean.. i understand it's a hard hitting Parthiban film.. but the theme??
  
  
• From: Anu (@ 128.241.245.34) on: Mon Jun 24 12:08:08 EDT 2002
  
  Why aren't IR's albums like Ivann not marketed well...
  You don't find them in the US stores... they are also conspicuous by their absence in music websites such as raaga.com and musicindiaonline.
  
  Here's my theory:
  Most of IR's albums these days (Ivann, Devan etc.) are released by un-known audio companies like Best Audio and Roja Audio. So, even a quality album like Ivann doesn't get the publicity it deserves. Compare this to AVM's marketing of a mediocre Gemini, and HMV's marketing of Panchathantiram!
  
  Who decides on the audio label? Is it the producer? In which case IR is sheer unlucky I'd say.
  
  Also, when I look at the poll at newtfmpage forum on "Are Ivan's songs a disappointment?", I wonder how many of the respondents outside of India have actually heard the album (they could have only heard 1 minute bits at raajangahm.com)!!! I am sure when any unbiased music lover woulldn't call it a disappointment. I bought the album in Bangalore (all I saw at the store was publicity material for 'Samurai') and I enjoyed the album tremendously.
  
  
  
• From: MIF (@ 202.9.147.103) on: Mon Jun 24 13:23:57 EDT 2002
  
  magix,
  >>e1<<
  IVAN-kku lam oru short form-eh??.......kadavul thaan kaapathanum :))........Hindi padathukku short form na etho nyayam......ellam 4 words :)........oru 4 letter title-kku short form-eh?? :)
  
  anu,
  i havent listened to the album.......but taste differs from person to person
  
  
• From: Cheithi (@ 210.214.128.183) on: Mon Jun 24 15:15:16 EDT 2002
  
  Anu,
  Producers decide the album label. IR after he composes the album, he gives it to the producers, who take it from there....Here is one more tidbit, IR does not also know when the album wud be released not until 7 - 10 days before when he is told by the producer....
  
  
• From: Cheithi (@ 210.214.128.183) on: Mon Jun 24 15:18:24 EDT 2002
  
  Anu,
  BTW, I see Ivann album posters in Madras...and Parthipan publicised it well with big posters in the city.
  
  Majority of the people only buy IR albums after songs becomes a hit once the film is released. This was the case with Kasi and Alaghi audio sales.
  
  So wait and see about Ivann cassette sales.
  
  
• From: Aun (@ 128.241.245.34) on: Wed Jun 26 12:16:06 EDT 2002
  
  Appadi Paakradunna is the best composition I have come across recently!
  Matangi never sounded better before. The interludes are mind-blowing!
  
  
• From: Kavitha (@ 207.252.227.7) on: Wed Jun 26 14:09:10 EDT 2002
  
  Anu,
  what do you think of the gusty "Ulagame Nee" number?
  My 1st pick of the album is 'Enai Enna Seidhai Veinguzhaley'. Next is 'Appadi PAkradunna Venaam' followed closely by 'Kannan Nee En Isai' followed by 'Ulagame'
  
  
• From: ponni (@ 172.182.215.187) on: Wed Jun 26 18:07:09 EDT 2002
  
  Ivan a showpiece of IR's versatility in one album like never before!!!
  
  1)Enai Enna Seithai 2)Enakkinai Yaar Inge 3)Kannan Nee En Isainatha Oviyam :- the uncompromising 'Mogamul' carnatic Ilaiyaraja.
  
  Dhoolu Podu Dhoolu :- unspecified mix of disco/folk dapankuthu ??
  
  1)Paatukku Pogatheenga 2)Bajanai Seiyvom :- Folk Koothu paatu and Bajanai-folk mix !!
  
  Ulakamae ... Nee Manithanai:- 'Malayalam Guru' style use of carnatic with western chorus and orchestration.
  
  Mel Topil Five Staruda :- surprisingly a hint of inspiration from Yuvan/ARR style.
  
  Appadi Paakurathu Venaam :- the masterpiece . In my opinion, a refined Karthik Raja kind of melody that flows effortlessly unlike the strained output of KR.
  
  Though the album maynot be his best, the most encourging aspect of this album is - IR breaking free from his self-imposed barriers and his willingness to experiment with current trends.
  
  
• From: Genius (@ 65.205.71.253) on: Thu Jun 27 15:27:16 EDT 2002
  
  http://www.raajangahm.com/filmalbums/y2k2.html
  
  Interesting post on Piracy... How we do not like our Mom and Dad to be pirated, lets apply the same policy on the things we buy (incl. casettes)
  
  No wonder why songs are unavailable yet on Raaga, et. al.
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Thu Jun 27 17:41:20 EDT 2002
  
  ponni..only dhoolu podu reminded me of Karthik rAjA..especially some dum dum dum # i cant remember. Not sure why you think mEl topla is Yuva/ARR style, only the singing is little stylish..otherwise I dont see any similarity.
  
  You are right there is more diversity in this single album, than in multiple albums by other MDs.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Jun 28 01:16:13 EDT 2002
  
  http://www.themusicmagazine.com/ivann.html
  
  "Bad news for his fans: he disappoints severely. Not a single line or snatch of melody stays or haunts. The old touch does not surface except in very distracted, lost patches in some interludes and intros. Sad let-down from a genius."
  
  
  
• From: ponni (@ 172.183.74.173) on: Fri Jun 28 04:12:28 EDT 2002
  
  karthik s,
  
  we have read and debated about the above review in this thread. what are you trying to say now?
  
  
• From: vel (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Fri Jun 28 09:55:15 EDT 2002
  
  ...."the un compromising carnatic 'mogamull' ilaiyaraja..."
  
  nice string of words ponni :-). What a sweet treat of pure carnatic music from IR in IVANN, that too in soothing SUDHA's charming voice :-). Loved all the songs, though the three songs by Sudha were outstanding..
  
  
• From: Raji (@ 203.166.96.234) on: Fri Jun 28 10:10:23 EDT 2002
  
  We don't care about what Sujita says in her review. We have our judment.
  What is your purpose of this post Karthick.
  
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 203.197.190.97) on: Fri Jun 28 10:25:35 EDT 2002
  
  Raji:
  
  Sorry, didnt notice this thread's archives.
  
  But again, the same newtfmpage 'patrons' have heavily sided Suchitra of TMM fame when she tears apart ARR's albums...saying how intelligent and knowledgeable TMM's reviews are...just take a look at the archives when ARR's albums are being discussed...ARR fans used to say the same thing...that they dont think much of TMM's reviews...! So now its become 'We dont care what she says...'!! Interesting.
  
  
• From: :) (@ 209.130.217.102) on: Fri Jun 28 10:39:34 EDT 2002
  
  We don't care what Sujita reviews on IR, you see for 12 dog years we know more IR music than sujitha or fa'jitha
  but we take special care to credit sujitha when ARR is reviewed..,.this is our judgement.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: vel (@ 203.199.245.171) on: Fri Jun 28 22:26:14 EDT 2002
  
  IVAN review & Suchitra lata..Its amazing how she cud write a review even before she got even the raga usage correct. Pathetic.
  
  Its high time that lady requested themusicmagazine.com admin to delete that review page, before it does personal damage to her career as music reviewer ;-).
  
  
• From: Are yaar. (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Jun 28 23:42:56 EDT 2002
  
  >>>We don't care what Sujita reviews on IR, you see for 12 dog years we know more IR music than sujitha or fa'jitha
  but we take special care to credit sujitha when ARR is reviewed..,.this is our judgement.
  
  Yeh..that's the spirit. That's what makes we IR fans great. Long live Ir and long live ARR bashing.
  
  
  
• From: Cynic (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Sat Jun 29 00:12:33 EDT 2002
  
  >>>Its high time that lady requested themusicmagazine.com admin to delete that review page, before it does personal damage to her career as music reviewer ;-).
  
  
  veiled threat from vel
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.235) on: Sat Jun 29 01:11:43 EDT 2002
  
  Very nice music by raaja.Well done maestro.Every raja fan go and get it.Ivan will be a hit.How is Ivan audio sales?
  
  
• From: shanmughan (@ 202.88.231.16) on: Wed Jul 3 12:01:13 EDT 2002
  
  To be very frank; i purchased this album yesterday with high expectations! I don't feel sad for waisting 50 bugs; but really sad to hear "below average stuff" from the great meastro himself!
  
  There is nothing special abt any of those songs...some songs are purely carnatic..others are really miserable...
  
  Hey maestro! what's happening to you?
  
  
• From: Saran (@ ) on: Fri Jul 12 03:17:31 EDT 2002
  
  Ivann is the best among the recent albums. Nice work by the great Maestro! Ennai enna seithaai is amazing. Kannan nee en and appadi paakrathunnaa are mesmerising! MEl top-ula, dhoolu podu thoolu are good. And all the bit songs are nice. In total, it's a worth buying album and double worth listening!
  
  
• From: Saran (@ 164.164.46.41) on: Fri Jul 12 03:19:09 EDT 2002
  
  Ivann audio sales top in the market... Source: Thatstamil.com
  
  
  

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