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Topic started by raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on Wed Apr 17 05:21:40 EDT 2002.
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hi PS Fans

Check out The New Episode of Aboorva Ragangal on vijay Tv Sunday @ 10:00 AM

The First Guest of this New Episode is P.susheela

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• From: kalai (@ 164.164.89.68) on: Mon Jul 28 06:47:59 EDT 2003
  
  I found a list of hindi songs in a site..
  pl. find the link..
  http://www.earthmusic.net/cgi-bin/search.php?page=1&total=28&singerid[]=psushila&singermtype=
  
  
  
• From: kalai (@ 202.9.150.61) on: Mon Jul 28 09:56:57 EDT 2003
  
  Thanks Kaumudi!
  First time I am hearing this song. As U told, its an excellent one. very nice of U!!
  
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Thu Jul 31 03:45:36 EDT 2003
  
  PS's Contribution in Karnan
  
  I rate
  Kangal Enge As the top most song
  followed by Kanukku Kulamedhu, Iravum Nilavum , En uyir Thozhi
  
  AIR FM Plays Kangal enge Frequently..
  
  What a composition by MSV-TKR
  
  What do u guys think ?
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.216.68.115) on: Thu Jul 31 22:50:54 EDT 2003
  
  http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XY00000J0J
  
  Telugu film: Tenali Ramakrishna.
  
  Song: Chandana Charchita (Ashtapadi)
  
  Music: MSV-TKR
  (The tune is somewhat similar to an earlier tune by Vasant Desai, but since are both are based on bhoopaali/mohanam, it could be coincidence).
  
  PS's rendition is divine! Enjoy!
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Fri Aug 1 11:22:18 EDT 2003
  
  Av
  This is such a famous song in Andhra. I was planning to post this song link sometime in the future. But as you said, the rendition by PS is heavenly.
  
  Do you know where I can find Vasant Desai's song on the internet? Also, Tenali Ramakrishna was released in the mid-50s, I think. When did VD's version come out?
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Sat Aug 2 09:18:21 EDT 2003
  
  One more gem of PS. This is "Gaaliki kulamedi" (Does wind have a religion?) from the movie "Karna".
  
  Here's the link: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XY00000A13
  
  Hope you guys will enjoy.
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72) on: Sat Aug 2 10:15:34 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi:
  
  Strong link :-) ,, amazing song - PS, MSV/TKR at their best - what interludes.. but we still fight over languages :((
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.216.68.120) on: Sat Aug 2 11:55:24 EDT 2003
  
  Do you know where I can find Vasant Desai's song on the internet? Also, Tenali Ramakrishna was released in the mid-50s, I think. When did VD's version come out?
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  Kaumudi: The tune by Vasant Desai was for a Marathi film - it came out in late 40s. But anyways, on another and more careful listening to the song by PS, I will say that this similarity is only a result of the fact that they are both based on the same raaga. In fact, I see an exact similarity only in 3 words.
  
  Are there any other Jayadeva's ashtapadis sung by PS or any other artists in Telugu films?
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112) on: Sat Aug 2 12:20:50 EDT 2003
  
  AV: Does it really matter whether it is sung in Telugu movies or not? Ashtapadi is in Sanskrit. There was a movie called Bhakta Jayadeva in Telugu (or Kannada?). I would expect lot of Ashtapadis in that movie. Malayalam movies probably have some too.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Sat Aug 2 15:38:00 EDT 2003
  
  AV and Raj
  Oh yeah, Bhaktha Jayadeva in telugu is full of Jayadeva ashtapadis. These Ghantasala ashtapadis are very popular with the music lovers in Andhra and elsewhere. I couldn't find the songs on the internet though. MIO doesn't have all the songs. But the tapes are available.
  
  More recently, the movie "Meghasandesam", a mega musical hit, has a couple ashtapadis tuned differently from the ones in Jayadeva movie. The link is: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XY00000C1B
  Radhika krishna and Priye charuseele by KJY and PS are lovely ashtapadis. Ashtapadis appeared here and there in many movies. I am not sure if there is one single place where you can find all of this.
  
  raja m
  Thanks. Yeah, it is a memorable melody.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112) on: Sat Aug 2 16:15:42 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi: The website ragalahari.com has some of the Ashtapadis by Ghantasala. Bhanumathi has sung one -Saavirahe (nindathi chandana). I had a tape. But, I have not found that in the internet. Several Karnatic vocalists have sung these including Balmuralikrishna.
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.72.95) on: Sat Aug 2 21:31:36 EDT 2003
  
  Does it really matter whether it is sung in Telugu movies or not? Ashtapadi is in Sanskrit
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  Of course not :-).
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.72.95) on: Sat Aug 2 21:33:22 EDT 2003
  
  I meant to say that it of course doesnt matter whether the ashtapadis were in Telugu films or not. My question should have been "are there any other ashtapadis" sung by PS?
  
  
• From: Mani (@ 66.25.197.27) on: Sun Aug 3 00:14:32 EDT 2003
  
  Hi, if you are looking for PS's melodious Telugu oldies, try "Sakhiya vivarinchave" from "Narthanashaala" (MD: Susarla Dakshina Murthy) and "Aligina vaelane chudaali" and "Sannaga veeche" from Gundamma Kadha (MD: Ghantasala)
  
  
• From: kalai (@ 164.164.89.68) on: Mon Aug 4 00:39:05 EDT 2003
  
  pl. find the links for the above songs.
  
  Aligina vaelane
  http://web.music.coolgoose.com/go/song?id=67810
  Sahkiya vivarinchave
  http://web.music.coolgoose.com/go/song?id=68029
  about "ashtapadis"... Is it called as "padhyams" ?
  
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112) on: Mon Aug 4 01:25:16 EDT 2003
  
  kalai: Ashtapadi is also known as Gita Govindam.
  I never heard anyone call it padhyam. I think padhyam means stanza. Did you mean padam, a dance form? Ashtapadi is used in dances. They might have used it in a padam. Padhikam refers to devotional poem.
  
  
• From: Nagesh (@ 210.210.93.19) on: Mon Aug 4 09:23:55 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi - do you remember the song "Idi Teeyani Vennela Reyi Madi Vennela Kanna Haayi...". I am sure you would.. I am more intrested in knowing your expert comments and of course the "beautiful" translation, which is your hallmark.
  
  kalai - do you have this uploaded into coolgoose? This is a MUST listen song for PS fans..
  
  
• From: kalai (@ 203.124.221.146) on: Mon Aug 4 11:13:12 EDT 2003
  
  Thank U nagesh!!
  I havent uploaded yet..
  Raj!
  Thank U for the clarifications.
  Pl. find the link for " nee daya raada" by PS. great one.
  http://web.music.coolgoose.com/go/song?id=70931
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Mon Aug 4 11:56:33 EDT 2003
  
  Nagesh
  Sure, I remember the song Idi teeyani vennela reyi. Oh, what a song. Honey dripping in those voices both PS and SPB. Such a wonderful song.
  
  "I am more intrested in knowing your expert comments and of course the "beautiful" translation, which is your hallmark"
  Surely you must be joking. I wouldn't call my layman rantings "expert comments". In any case, I will write a translation for this song. I'm sure it is worth it.
  
  Thanks for bringing up the song. And for those who want to listen to what Nagesh is talking about, here is the link: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XY00000F2M - listen to the first song and get transported to a different world.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Tue Aug 5 03:23:18 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi,NAgesh,Av & kalai Thanks
  For these songs..
  Excellent Song ..
  
  
  
• From: kalai (@ 164.164.89.68) on: Thu Aug 7 06:28:40 EDT 2003
  
  Raj!
  I could find a nice article about karnan songs in the other thread by our "Vicky". hav a look.
  
  The Rennaisance Period of TFM (1958-1968)
  
  P Susheela is one of the most celebrated artists of our times and has sung a widely varied repertoire with all the major composers. She is a "Jessye Norman (the great american singer)" of Tamil Film Music.
  
  The film "Karnan" has always had a high profile. Not because it was by BR Pantulu's production company, but for its vindicatory memoirs and nostalgic souvenirs of a golden era of TFM playback. Meanwhile, another tradition of northern style has flourished side by side with it. While slaughter aand mayhem adorned the stage after the collapse of the film "Karnan", the music itself had emotional naunces to it and represented the attachment of ordinary folks. But neither house recognized the genius of P Susheela. The songs were full of new fluidity in the way of composition, arias, choruses and recitatives which were intermingled. Even the movie's partial sucess was obviously due to the arias, singing style of the soprano, choruses and relevant to the storyline, provided some consolation to the citizens. It brings back memories of French opera by Jules Massenet, Donizetti, Offenbach, Charpentier and Charles Gounod.
  
  The songs by P Susheela are particularly effective in its schizophrenic changes of mood and shows her extraordinary ability to make something out of almost nothing. The song "Ennuir Thozhie" has seductive appeal and is cleverly married to well orchestrated and tuneful music.
  
  P Susheela has worked with host of acclaimed composers from G Ramanathan/K V Mahadevan/ SM Subbiah Naidu/Viswanathan Ramamurthy in the south and Naushad Ali/Chitalkar Ramachandra in the north, her interest in rennaisance music has led to collaboration with many of the early music ensembles in particular Viswanathan/Ramamurthy. The song "Kangal Enge" from the mentioned movie stands testament to the same. I was very fortunate enough to receive the same in a mp3 format from "P Susheela Fans Group", a dedicated band of fans and enthusiasts.
  
  Those were the days when music and poetry were partners, and recreated this alliance by alternating recitative and aria, thus bringing to life characters whose sensibilities take on a universal quality, in which the listener can find elements of his own experience. These were reproduced in the movie and shares with the same emotional intensity in the act of writing/composing of Kannadasan/VR, thus disclosing the existence of a purely metaphysical truth to which to inspire.
  
  The richness in Kannadasan's writing also proved an endless stimulus and source of inspiration for the rennaisance composers, who emnjoyed exploiting all the descriptive possibilities of the supreme voice of P Susheela.
  
  Composer Christoph Willibald Gluck once remarked (in preface to the printed edition of ALCESTE, 1769) "Your highness.....I have made every effort to restore music to its true role of serving the poetry by means of its powers of expression......".
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: kalai (@ 164.164.89.68) on: Thu Aug 7 06:29:32 EDT 2003
  
  continues...
  
  In the mentioned movie VR and their mezzo P Susheela created a personal synthesis from the different forms, styles and traditional idioms they encountered and quickly established themselves through the dramatic power of their composition and the raw voice of the mezzo, in which expressive urgency is unquestionably the dominant aspect.
  
  I found the young woman (PS) is in a torment and suddenly in a position which seems to allow her no means of escape other than to deliver the song the way it was meant to be a expressive emphasis not present in Kannadasan's text allowing her to immediately unleash all the pent-up energy in the the song "Kangal Enge".
  
  You cannot hear her (PS) grasping for breath and they all lead recurrently to the howl of grief represented by the accented quevers for all the strings, and reinforced percussion and wind instruments. Th result is a continual alteration of emotions which finds a brief moment of repite in the central sections of the composition (for percussion).
  
  If we accept that the music's essence is melody and the poetry that accompanies that, it becomes easy to see the comnnection between Kannadasan/ VR and P Susheela.
  
  Thanks to all who energize me by posting some of the great works of the "Nightingale of the South", Smt. P Susheela.
  
  

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