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Ivan by IR - Released

Topic started by Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on Mon Jun 3 00:22:11 EDT 2002.
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http://www.dinakaran.com/daily/2002/Jun/03/cinema/cineNews0.html

Any reviews, opinions yet?

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• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Aug 7 10:45:26 EDT 2002
  
  ooops - Fliflo - i did not mean u - i meant the guy who posted above you.....
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Wed Aug 7 10:49:17 EDT 2002
  
  sabesan..thats ok..it's quite clear from your statement. so don't worry..
  
  I enjoy the "upright words of the decent club"
  
  
• From: arjun (@ 203.94.234.100) on: Wed Aug 7 11:39:34 EDT 2002
  
  hey ARR fans hold on dudes.let the cassette sales and other statistics themselves show where IR really stands. we need not talk abt. this. ivan songs are just ok and good and nothing there in it that can give IR a national award which ARR has won thriceeee
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Thu Aug 8 01:18:35 EDT 2002
  
  Since when did cassette sales and other statistics and national awards got to do anything with the QUALITY OF MUSIC??
  
  Since when did cassette sales and other statistics and national awards got to do anything with HOW YOU YOURSELF FIND THE MUSIC AND HOW MUCH YOU YOURSELF LIKE IT??
  
  Case In Point: Since when did Hey Ram got appreciated by the majority of India and some other places?? Doesn't this prove to you the level and quantity of morons still existing in India and elsewhere? These superficials' taste only lasts when theres a hype.
  
  dun embarrass yourself & grow up idiot.
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Thu Aug 8 02:51:21 EDT 2002
  
  ambleen
  Well ARR is so called no.1 or as MD just with the cassette sales and other statistics and national awards only....
  sad ..... hahahahahahaha
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Thu Aug 8 04:49:16 EDT 2002
  
  awew:
  Don't worry. Time has not come yet. Show restraint. And don't insult IR like what JJ did in other thread.
  
  
• From: rajinifan (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Thu Aug 8 10:07:44 EDT 2002
  
  People were supporting IR since no quality music director was around.During those tamilnadu was filled with real musical geniuses according to IT fans. Once ARR came along everybody flocked him (due to his superior skills) and IR was left high and dry. IR was totally exposed. IR got three national awards through his lifetime while ARR got in 10 years (including one in his first year). Bottom line IR is f#cked up man . Ask him to get lost.
  
  
• From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 10:10:38 EDT 2002
  
  porutevar boomi-ye allvar....
  so IR fans plz stay calm n tuned,,
  only time will reveal His magnificent work in Ivan
  
  
• From: musicfan (@ 204.212.232.41) on: Thu Aug 8 12:19:59 EDT 2002
  
  Hi folks
  I decided to post this article in two threads that have seen the worst of IR-ARR verbal wars in recent times. The Ivan review page and Baba review page.
  
  I think its time, people realise that these two sectionso f fans, will rarely find a common platform.Neither is to be blamed. But both need to be told to refrain from using ugly language.
  
  IR Fans, I am one of you. But I do believe at times, the Maestro also falters. His music is not as consistent as it used to be. But then, there are occasional gems like Apdi Pakradhunna and Manase, which are fantastic. ARR Fans,You guys also need to realise, that IR fans, have grown listening to SPB and Chitra and SJ and PS and KJY singing to their true potential with minimal music to accompany. The voice had so much importance.Not anymore. today the onus is on, instrumentation to its maximum and not the natural ones but more of the synthesizer kind. Its not bad, but its a different genre.
  At no point, I repeat is ARR going to match the rustic and simple melody of IR. And, in the same vein, at no point is IR going to match the tunes of the youth of today who want western music and the beats and trance music.
  
  But as music lovers, we ought to discern and comment. IR Fans, need to accept the Maestro fails at times, like in Devan.ARR fans, you ought to accept that sometimes ARR is so disinterested in tfm that he gives crap to us and we end up lapping it up greedily. For heavens sake, Star and Jodi and few others needed to be thrashed out.. A music director needs to say, he will NOT copy his own tunes. how much ever his director insists. His individuality is compromised. And giving a stupid reason of lack of time is crap.
  At his peak, IR was churning 20 movies a yr, each with a unique magical score. So giving a reason of lack of time etc is crap.
  
  At the same time IR fans, the Maestro needs to be more choosy and give more chance to SPB..
  i mean, they have produced songs that r still unbeatable..Trying to also produce techno music is not a good idea. His forte is simple hummable scores and his BGM. He should stick to it..
  
  Hope this makes you guys understnad that fighting out personal wars is stupid.. Discuss music..dont discuss ppl and use expletives..you demean urselves a lot by it..
  
  
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 21:02:23 EDT 2002
  
  Guys, why are you wasting your time on Ivan, avan and such stupid stuff?
  
  Fact is no one outside this forum talks about Ivan.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Mon Aug 12 00:43:06 EDT 2002
  
  so where's this Arun?
  
  ran away juz like the other pottes after not being able to withstand my questions??
  
  :)
  
  
• From: G (@ 129.49.80.117) on: Mon Aug 12 01:47:48 EDT 2002
  
  DEi...ARR fans....pasangala....mavane ozhichikattiduven...odipongada.....indha thread pakkam thalai vecchi padukaadheenga.....
  
  saavugraakingala.....vaaya kalaraadheenga....
  
  Raja Vaazhga
  DEi...ARR fans....pasangala....mavane ozhichikattiduven...odipongada.....indha thread pakkam thalai vecchi padukaadheenga.....
  
  saavugraakingala.....vaaya kalaraadheenga....
  
  Raja Vaazhga
  
  
• From: Than vinai thannai chudum (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 02:22:02 EDT 2002
  
  Than vinai thannai chudum
  
  
• From: siva (@ 63.170.144.101) on: Mon Aug 12 12:03:23 EDT 2002
  
  Music Fan well said...
  
  During IR peak he turned out close to 50 movies. I am sure at least 125 songs would have been hits.
  
  
• From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129) on: Mon Aug 12 16:27:59 EDT 2002
  
  Hello Nijam is it like no one talks about Baba outside Baba review?
  
  
  
  From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 10:10:38 EDT 2002
  
  
  porutevar boomi-ye allvar....
  so IR fans plz stay calm n tuned,,
  only time will reveal His magnificent work in Ivan
  
  
  From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 21:02:23 EDT 2002
  
  
  Guys, why are you wasting your time on Ivan, avan and such stupid stuff?
  
  Fact is no one outside this forum talks about Ivan.
  
  What is this guy upto? Playing double game? Same ID different postings.. around the same time..
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 20:59:22 EDT 2002
  
  Baba is the talk of town, becos it is worth talking about.
  Ivan, no one outside this forum talks about it.
  
  And no, I am not GB.
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.51) on: Mon Aug 12 22:39:08 EDT 2002
  
  If you guys don't like please shut up.Okey???Baba is a masala movie.Rajini only know to act like that.Nothing more than that.If no IR than there is no Rajini.You count how many movies Raja score music for Rajini.Rajini know very well about Raja.Rajini always respect raja.He know how genius raja sir.Ivan movie is totally very goog movie.When this movie released you all will know it.Okey???Before that don't talk anything.This is Ivan thread,so if you want to talk about Baba go to that side.Don't write anything about Baba here anymore.Okey???
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 23:28:47 EDT 2002
  
  Thopaarudaa, vakkalathukku yaarunu?
  
  SPM, so you know how to speak without vulgarities too?
  For your infomration, Rajini is SENIOR to IR. Don't bullsh*it yourself.
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.51) on: Tue Aug 13 00:16:49 EDT 2002
  
  Who said lah rajini is a senior to IR?What a joke lah.Nijam you talk lah after you know very well about tamil cinema.Okey???
  
  
• From: Nijam ILLEI (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Aug 13 02:08:02 EDT 2002
  
  Yes yes, SPM you are right.
  
  Rajini is junior to Mathavan and IR is senior to Thyagaraja Bhagavathar.
  
  Happy?
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue Aug 13 08:21:55 EDT 2002
  
  SPM:
  Why do you stoop so low to compare the experience of IR and RK. Are there any thing common in them to compare. ?
  
  I listen to Ivan. Tell me is it worth talking. Tell me who else other than those in this forum talks about that. Baba songs are listened. Whether they like it or not..they listen it. Go to Sea Street in Columbo. You will know what I am talking. I am surprised to see that as one of TNagar street. Baba songs in as many as four shops. I don't know whether thay play only that. That will be too much. But, I did never listen to any IR's song anywhere there or in India after I have come back.
  Run seems to be a good hit. Kadal pissaase and few more songs of other films are played in FM there. Not to mention Baba...baba..song, exactly between 7:45 to 8:00 in morning atleast for 5 days there..it was played regularly. It is always there as people's choice.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138) on: Tue Aug 13 10:49:03 EDT 2002
  
  "From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue Aug 13 08:21:55 EDT 2002
  
  SPM:
  Why do you stoop so low to compare the experience of IR and RK. Are there any thing common in them to compare. ? "
  
  
  Are Yaaru sonna SPM started this 1st? Open your eyes big big and c.....
  
  
• From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129) on: Tue Aug 13 12:34:21 EDT 2002
  
  Guys Please ignore Postings from this ID
  161.142.100.86. Whoever belongs to this ID must be a moron. In one posting he supports Illayaraja. In another posting he bashes Illayaraja. I think he is a mental case.
  
  Check for yourself
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 10:10:38 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  porutevar boomi-ye allvar....
  so IR fans plz stay calm n tuned,,
  only time will reveal His magnificent work in Ivan
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 21:02:23 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  Guys, why are you wasting your time on Ivan, avan and such stupid stuff?
  
  Fact is no one outside this forum talks about Ivan.
  
  
  PLEASE IGNORE THIS 161.142.100.86. HE USES 100 IDS I GUESS
  
  
  
  
  
• From: rajinifan (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Tue Aug 13 12:50:52 EDT 2002
  
  IR pondra "Ivan" "avanai" yellam Baba than kalal midhithu nasukki viduvar.
  
  

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