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Ivan by IR - Released

Topic started by Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on Mon Jun 3 00:22:11 EDT 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

http://www.dinakaran.com/daily/2002/Jun/03/cinema/cineNews0.html

Any reviews, opinions yet?

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• From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50) on: Sat Jul 27 11:03:22 EDT 2002
  
  I'd have preferred keeping "Enai Ena" to a single raga, instead of traversing a bunch of them. Usually, ragamalikas in traditional carnatic sense, are composed such that each raga gets a fair share of charanams/pallavis. From my basic knowledge of carnatic, I feel that it is not a ragamalika in the strictest sense. Please pardon my ignorance if I'm wrong.
  The song still sounds good, and that's what matters.
  "Kannan Nee" is as carnatic as can at the most be in films. As Subbudu has said, "Cinema-la Ippadi Oru Paatta?"
  
  
• From: Peter Pan (@ 170.140.252.95) on: Sat Jul 27 12:08:16 EDT 2002
  
  s0,
  
  You're right.
  However a Ragamalika is not necessarily restricted to 'a fair share of charanams'. There are many later day Carnatic compositions with each line of the song set to a different raga. (take for instance the song popularized by Maharajapuram SanthAnam, 'SArangan marugane sAvEri bAlakanE')
  Also, an artist can be really inspired while singing 'kalpana swaras' at the end of a composition, and can jump from one raga to another in quick succession, making it a ragamalika towards the end. This is also used to showcase their talent.
  The Ivann song IMO has been composed in such a way. In fact I found it a pleasant surprise when the singer went from Simhendra Madhyamam to LatAngi.
  
  Unfortunately, 'kiRukka(n)lgaL' pArthiban loves his voice so much that he recites a typical VM-vAli type poetry (sample this: 'un thodaigaLukku naduvil nAn kANAmal pOnen') without letting the 'sudden switch' in the tune sink in...
  
  In the case of 'Enai Enna SeithAi', I would have loved if the singer had lingered on to each raga a little longer.. but, it's a 5 minute film song. So, no complaints.
  I thoroughly enjoyed the surprising turns, till the end.
  
  A comment on the album sleeve: While the producers have advertised it as Sudha's 1st foray into films I wonder why they failed to mention the coming together of violin masters Lalgudi Krishnan, Lalgudi Vijayalakshmi, V.V. Ravi & Embar S. Kannan for a single song.
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50) on: Sat Jul 27 19:10:38 EDT 2002
  
  Peter Pan, thanks for the clarification. I found the "interference" by Parthiban novel initially. But, after repeated hearings, I'm getting tired of it. Couldn't they have included a clean song at least in the cassette/CD?
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Sun Jul 28 17:19:08 EDT 2002
  
  Peter Pan,
  
  nom. A small correction. I feel the sample poetry line given above is slightly different. Not exactly but it's something like "AdadA! thALam idum kaikkum, thattuppadum un thodaiykkum ?????, nAn sikkikondru iruppadhai kandukkondEn", meaning that he is finding himself get caught between her palm and thodai while she's giving the thALam. (????? means "in between").
  
  Looks like he has spared us in this instance;-) Pls. correct me if I'm wrong.
  
  
• From: Peter Pan (@ 170.140.250.192) on: Sun Jul 28 18:30:07 EDT 2002
  
  Isaiosai,
  Yes.. Thanks for pointing out.
  It goes like this:
  AdadA! tALamidum un kaikkum, thattuppadum un thodaikkum idayE nAn chikkik koNdiruppathai kaNdukoNden.
  What I had written earlier was indeed giving a 'way-off' meaning ;)
  Anyway, I wish the original song without interruption was also included in the album.
  
  
• From: isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Sun Jul 28 19:12:02 EDT 2002
  
  Peter Pan :
  I would'nt be surprised if partiban meant to convey that 'way-off' meaning ' because he is known for such dialogues and now that he's promoted himself to Poetry instead if dialogues....
  Anyway I love his double meaning dialogues....:))))
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Sun Jul 28 21:13:04 EDT 2002
  
  Peter Pan,
  ;-)
  Thanks for the correct line. And yes, the album should have had the version without his interruptions. But looks like the MDs don't have much control over such things:-(
  
  isaipriyan,
  Not this time given Sudha's association and pure Carnatic background for the situation:) But I feel he would have made up for that during the second interlude of DhuLu pOdu dhuLu (similar to what TelF Director Raghavendra Rao does to most of his heroines during the songs;-)).
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156) on: Sun Jul 28 21:49:48 EDT 2002
  
  Yow p[eter Pan,
  thamizh romba nuNukkamaana mozhiyya...post paNrathukku munnadi clarify paNNikittu pOst paNNunga;-)
  
  
• From: truth (@ 128.194.171.34) on: Sun Jul 28 22:01:54 EDT 2002
  
  well "ivan " is a great one to hear after the diastrous and forgettable "devan".. i dont know which state of mind was IR in when he composed "devan".. he should understand that he cant to the songs like" sexy bomb.." and a la craps....
  (i think after a long time ..since the 80's a movie's climax has one item song before a fight"!!!)..
  well all i could say is IR need good directors to bring the best out of him .. i am happy he hasnt faded away as critised by many .. in the song "dhoolu podu dhoolu.." .. hte guitar piece at the end of the first stanza.. was simply supreb... an indication that IR is stiull alive..!!!
  anywayz.. IVAN was a welcome relief..for IR fans..
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.44.16) on: Sun Jul 28 22:56:01 EDT 2002
  
  After a long time i listened to some hummable song. 'Appadi Pakkaradenna' was a nice tune even though the beginning resembles the beginning of Beautiful mind movie soundtrack Kalidescope. Keep it up Raja!! Ennai Ena is wonderful. Carnatic based song. Rare these days as he is the only MD available who can score song of that quality. For others it is simply an ocean which nobody would want to jump in.
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.254.41) on: Thu Aug 1 08:11:47 EDT 2002
  
  For me every movie with IR is welcome irrespective of hit or miss for other....
  
  
• From: hehah (@ 210.214.1.161) on: Mon Aug 5 14:09:15 EDT 2002
  
  hello!
  the music of ivan just SUC*S big time........i feel its time for IR 2 be in his room now...as its been the case for him fer the past 10 yrs.(in his house)..his ongs just not hearable 2 the hears...couldnt hear his music even after a long time as one of our friends pointed out....plzz IR leave the film industry as ur music was a FLOP from the begining u came in 2 the industry.....not 1 film is running or gaining money coz of IRS MUSIC...only god knows how ppl like him came in as MD.....
  
  
• From: Funnny (@ 65.69.59.154) on: Mon Aug 5 15:18:04 EDT 2002
  
  This is really getting funny!! BABA flop has driven these HCARRF crazy!!! After seeing 100s of fans bashing Baba Music in Baba Music review.. here is one nutcase ....
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.51) on: Tue Aug 6 02:05:06 EDT 2002
  
  Ivan is very good and great music.Very very fresh one lah.I really wait for this movie.When this movie will released?Make it fast Mr.Parthiban....!!!!!!
  
  
• From: JJ (@ 65.69.56.231) on: Tue Aug 6 02:11:33 EDT 2002
  
  Good Songs
  
  
• From: Ivan Sahikkalai (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Aug 6 03:24:56 EDT 2002
  
  What happened to Ilayaraja?
  Kuppai, kuppai and more kuppai.
  Even music directors like Sirpy are miles ahead of him. As for his own sons, even they are miles and miles ahead of their father.
  
  
• From: (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Aug 6 07:19:47 EDT 2002
  
  Even music directors like Sirpy are miles ahead of him. As for his own sons, even they are miles and miles ahead of their father.
  
  In sprinting or washing clothes? Or gardening or cooking? :-)
  
  
• From: G (@ 129.49.149.78) on: Tue Aug 6 08:51:18 EDT 2002
  
  Dei pasangala.....IVAN classic vintage Raja Stuff..Be Proud.
  
  I am a great fan of great raja
  
  
  
• From: Raji (@ 203.166.96.235) on: Tue Aug 6 09:48:43 EDT 2002
  
  Those who are interested in
  http://www.indolink.com/tamil/cinema/Specials/98/August/
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.129) on: Tue Aug 6 10:32:33 EDT 2002
  
  Raji: Did you care to notice that this article is 4 years old?
  
  
• From: awew (@ 203.197.135.226) on: Tue Aug 6 14:21:48 EDT 2002
  
  hello funny!
  ' plz dont be ***** coz losers like u can only sing stupid songs for raja....or s*** his ..... whtevr ....we all know IR SUCKS BIG TIME.......also his recent release ivann.....huh....producer would be kicking himself now........heeh
  
  
• From: sukkarotti (@ 68.113.36.96) on: Tue Aug 6 14:31:18 EDT 2002
  
  wowie... i like all the songs. Cant believe its IR's though... Ok, dont take ths the wrong way, twist it up and chase me around to stab me with it...
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Aug 7 07:24:30 EDT 2002
  
  awew:
  And others..ARR fans have a reputation of being good and decent. If you are his fan please do not post like this. Then what is the diff. between them and us..Time has not come for us to attack yet..
  
  So don't do that.
  
  And, let there be just one spoilt thread for the time being (Baba Music review..Spoilt by people patroning this thread..)
  
  
• From: OBL (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Wed Aug 7 09:02:35 EDT 2002
  
  Are Yaar,
  
  ungalukku neenga thaan US of A endra ninaippa??
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 202.156.2.219) on: Wed Aug 7 09:13:03 EDT 2002
  
  ARR fans are the filthiest fans in this forum. 1) They criticised IR using caste name 2) Are yaar u were mentioning some bodys friend as slu*. you are talking about decency. This is the height of indecency.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Aug 7 09:51:23 EDT 2002
  
  "ARR fans have a reputation of being good and decent." - "Are Yaar" edhuku peru lollu... u know, endha punnai ella punnai, adhu kannai mudikitu olagamaeee irutaiduchunu ninaichukumaam..... ur opinion is like that.....
  
  
• From: rajinifan (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Wed Aug 7 10:19:41 EDT 2002
  
  Ivan is a disaster. Hearing this kind of crap music gives credibility to rumors like MSV actually did the (ghost) music for Sindhu Bhairavi. This is stupid, filthy music. Only aelelo can save parthiban.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Wed Aug 7 10:44:09 EDT 2002
  
  
  "ARR fans have a reputation of being good and decent."
  
  "Hearing this kind of crap music gives credibility to rumors like MSV actually did the (ghost) music for Sindhu Bhairavi. This is stupid, filthy music."
  
  Ithu eppadi irukku...:}}}
  
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Wed Aug 7 10:44:23 EDT 2002
  
  ha ha ha..... "Are Yaar" - be proud of ARR fans - u have lot more "decent" fans like the above one.... have fun.....
  
  

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