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Has IR ever been inspired by ARR?

Topic started by a TFM fan (@ 64.20.155.69) on Sat Feb 24 00:29:01 EST 2001.
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Hi Guys,
I was listening songs from Nilave Mugam Kaattu by IR.

Music for the 1st and 2nd stanza of the song "suttraathe boomi thaaye" sounded similar to "enai kaanavilaye" song from Kaathal Thesam.

Personally i like both songs. If there are any such inspirations - let's discuss.

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• From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Thu May 29 11:45:29 EDT 2003
  
  Here is a stunner: I was watching scenes from Thalabadhy today and was listening to the BGM in the scene where Rajni says "Thalabadhy" to Shobana. Compare with the music in Lagaan of the song "OrE chori dil sE niklE" (or some such thing). It will be an eye opener. IR is a legend not without reason. The Lagaan song is a beauty though.
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Thu May 29 12:58:35 EDT 2003
  
  seems like everyone is a friend of pennathur except the poor IR..:-((
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ 165.89.84.86) on: Thu May 29 14:34:07 EDT 2003
  
  Pennathur,
  ARR's orchestration is superior to IR's?. I don't think so on any aspect. Recording quality is not just great orchestration.
  
  Can you name a song equivalent to 'Aananda Raagam Ketkum Kaalam' interms of orchestration from ARR?. You cannot.
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63) on: Thu May 29 15:14:41 EDT 2003
  
  A masterpiece of all time is IR's Ninu kori varnum from Agni nacchitaram. I have yet to find a song to beat the orchestrization in that song.
  Don't assume that I don't listen to any other songs. I am not biased for the composer or his music, I am just searching for a better song complete in all respects like the above mentioned.
  
  (if you have found some please mention them as I can listen and enjoy them. TIA)
  
  just a bit of BGM stuff, if you have seen Indiran Chandira Movie, listen to the BGM bit at the initial stages of the movie, in the mayor's office when charan raj says that they have caught vijayshanti and asks the mayor what to do with her. listen to the amazing bgm bit just around 4 seconds (played on piano I think) and you will know the detail in which IR composes bgm.
  
  
  Jag
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Thu May 29 23:07:25 EDT 2003
  
  "pennathur:
  
  Nice observation.
  
  Pennathur:
  
  Thanks for this interesting info."
  
  
  Are Yaar,
  
  These are the posts that you ridicule with thru 'out the newtfmpage history. Interestingly enuf, all these jib comes after somebody who thinks he/she has pointed out something negative abt IR.
  
  Well my dear fren, u r so pathetic. Go and carry on your orgy with the few who you used to tap on each other's back. What happened to them that now you have to piggyback onto someone who u think is anti-IR? All ran away? What happened to that TOTALLY CRAP piece of constellation thread where you pathetics started for ARR? Nothing else to talk abt ARR??
  
  Pathetic fools.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.31.113) on: Mon Jun 2 21:25:45 EDT 2003
  
  You guys familiar with the song 'Koottukkuyile' in Manam Virumbuthe Unnai? I know that it does not have the exact same tune as ARR's 'Maargazhi Poove' in May Maatham, but it has the same hip-hop beats and is also set in raagam Hindolam.
  
  
• From: Om (@ 12.247.230.83) on: Mon Jun 9 21:40:17 EDT 2003
  
  Listen to the song "Nadakindra pathayil" sung by janaki from the movie "Aathma". This was composed by IR in the year 1993(post ARR intro). You will see how IR was inspired by ARR's Puthiya mugham music(kannukku mai azhagu song)...
  
  
• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Mon Jun 9 22:21:09 EDT 2003
  
  And also see the songs.There is a resemblence
  
  SONG - VIZHIELAY ORU PUDIYA MOUNA MOZHI PESUM(Pagalil oor pournami) is similar to SNEHIDANE(Alaipayuthey).
  
  Ofcourse JUMBALAKKA(Enswasakatre)-Othungu Othungu(Maveeran).
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.197) on: Sun Jun 15 01:57:55 EDT 2003
  
  ARR's knowledge is so vast that he need not get inspired by any MD. u know something , u IR fans are just frogs in a well. come on IR fans, welcome to world 2003..(where ARR rulz in London,Mumbai and doesent need Chennai)
  
  
• From: Whatever (@ 203.131.109.66) on: Mon Jun 16 04:16:08 EDT 2003
  
  sena - or is it senile?
  
  vizhiley is ancient. snehidane is recent. enna same side goal-a?
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63) on: Mon Jun 16 11:08:28 EDT 2003
  
  what about the manam virumbathe unnai song? (posted by purv above)
  
  Jag
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.9.26.160) on: Mon Jun 16 14:47:13 EDT 2003
  
  
  Om,
  I think both movies are in the same year, in fact musicindiaonline lists pudhiya mugam as 1994 and athma as 1993 (please verify). they sound slightly similar due to the usage of string beats throughout, but the actual raagam is entirely different.
  
  
  Jag
  
  
  
• From: Anbe sivam (@ 206.102.161.11) on: Mon Jun 16 17:08:44 EDT 2003
  
  Jag,
  
  Also Athma is by Pratap Pothan. He takes a movie for long period. Definitely Athma songs are recorded much before Athma release.
  
  
  
• From: Om (@ 128.248.254.209) on: Mon Jun 16 17:27:56 EDT 2003
  
  As far as I remember, Aathma got released after Pudhiya Mugham. I remember feeling, 'hey, this is not the usual ilayaraja kind of song'. This sounds more like the songs from pudhiya mugham'...
  And as 'anbe sivam' says probably athma was recorded much before its release, in that case I stand corrected. Probably just a coincidence...
  
  Om!!!
  
  
• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Mon Jun 16 22:23:06 EDT 2003
  
  SONG - VIZHIELAY ORU PUDIYA MOUNA MOZHI PESUM(Pagalil oor pournami) is similar to SNEHIDANE(Alaipayuthey
  
  
• From: Gayathri (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Tue Jun 17 04:42:41 EDT 2003
  
  Sena, it should be the other way around.
  Pagalil Or Pournami is quite an old movie
  
  
• From: Rajan (@ 202.157.192.130) on: Tue Jun 17 06:21:57 EDT 2003
  
  whatever said here,,i strongly believe that IR was never ever in the past got influenced by ARR and i dont think that is going to happen in future.
  
  The examples you guys are giving are too vague to call 'inspirations'.
  
  i believe IR's inspirations are from the great classic composers of the past.
  
  
• From: Musio (@ 203.129.254.214) on: Tue Jun 24 06:40:16 EDT 2003
  
  IR's Orchestration was great even during the days in 1980.Songs such as 'Etho Mohum', 'Kathal Oviyum Padum Kaviyum', 'Putham Puthu Kalai' etc were at its best in India during that time. IR has tried all variety of songs in his 800+ film career. Making Music of ARR style is a childs play for him.
  For instance, Just take a old IR song, Mix it with an appropriate Rhytm Beat from the latest Keyboard. Add some extra Bass. Give it to Sound Engineer for DTS Mix. And Instant ARR Style of Song is ready.
  But IR has no intention of going in for such gimmicks. He keeps his style intact.
  You can find ARR kind of Music throughout the World but IR's style only and Only from this Genious.
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 161.142.100.87) on: Tue Jun 24 07:47:01 EDT 2003
  
  
  CLAP CLAP CLAP....For Musio...indeed very true...
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 161.142.100.87) on: Tue Jun 24 08:01:03 EDT 2003
  
  IR INSPIRED FROM AR:
  
  as i already told in one thread ....IRs ...'Nilavu kaattu Nilavu kaattu (vijay song)' ....is bit taken from 'yaaro sunro jara ...' from Rangeela...
  
  
• From: Razia (@ 128.107.253.37) on: Tue Jun 24 08:38:14 EDT 2003
  
  Well Said Musio..
  
  
• From: Razia (@ 128.107.253.37) on: Tue Jun 24 08:40:11 EDT 2003
  
  This may be a well known one..
  "Manoothu manthaiyile.." from Kizhakku cheemayile
  taken from "Vaadi en kappakezhange.." from "Alaigal oyvathillai"...
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63) on: Tue Jun 24 09:57:38 EDT 2003
  
  the starting tunes are surely similar. This song is also in telugu, varasudochadu, "bujjana gudi..". BTW isn't this supposed to be IR from ARR, why are we going the other way :>
  
  Jag
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 203.197.136.34) on: Tue Jun 24 11:43:24 EDT 2003
  
  Coz, its not the other way around.
  
  
• From: kumar (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Wed Jun 25 01:58:00 EDT 2003
  
  IR's music gets down to our hearts. ARR's drives our nerves.
  
  I like both of them in my own way, but a funny thing is what my brother thinks of most ARR songs. Good for a person suffering of constipation. Not my view though.
  
  
• From: Musio (@ 210.210.34.164) on: Thu Jun 26 06:55:53 EDT 2003
  
  
  ISAI PUYAL - THE PUYAL BRINGS RAIN OF INSPIRATIONS FROM DIFFERENT PART OF THE WORLD TO INDIA - ARR THE GREAT
  Few Instances for ReCap...(Inspired? from newtfmpage and http://www.iespana.es/i2fs)
  
  1.Hello Mr. ethirkatchi [Film: Iruvar] inspired from Grusin's Memphis Stomp, from the OST of The Firm, 1993.
  2.Kuluvalile [Film: Muthu] BGM rythm and beats inspired from 'rescue me' by Fontella Bass/Like a virgin (Madonna)
  3.Akkadannu naanga [Film: Indian] BG beats are inspired from Paul Young's 'Love of common people','No Parlez', 1983.
  4.Anbae anbae [Film: Jeans] inspired Peter Gabriel's 'Of these, hope.' album 'Passion, Music from last temptation of Christ'.
  5.Shakalaka Baby [Film: Mudhalvan] 'Flight IC 408' by State of Bengal ans the track 'Aint talkin bout dub' by Apollo 440.
  6.Thillana thillana [Film: Muthu] The opening African female humming is ripped off from Deep Forests 'Night Bird'.
  7.Poopookkum osai [Film: Minsara Kanavu] beats inspired from Lebo M's 'Rhythm of pride lands: Kube'
  9.Thenmerku paruvakkaatru [Film: Karuthamma] beats inspired from Dr Alban, 'Om we rembwe ike'.
  10.Paarkadhey [Film: Gentleman] inspired from the Osibisa number 'Kelele Kelele'
  11.Ekamevadhvitheeyam - Theme music from Baba [Film: Baba] Inspired from BGM of The Untouchables (1987).
  12.Pudhu Vellai Mazhai [Film: Roja (1992)] inspired from Yanni's 'Quiet Man', Album 'Reflections of Passion' (1990)
  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B0000000JS001003/1/104-3857905-5936745
  13.Tu hi tu [Film: Kabhi na kabhi] beginning inspired from 'The Scarborough Fair' by Simon and Garfunkel!
  14.Tara rum pum [Film: Doli sajake rakhna] The Champs number 'too much tequila' is used somewhere deep inside this song
  15.Sevvanam [Film: Pavithra] inspired from WHAM's 'Wake me up'!
  16.Madrasa suthi pakka poren [Film: May Madham] seemingly sounds a bit like WHAM's 'Club Tropicana' (1983)
  17.Love’s Never Easy [Album:Bombay Dreams] or Ishq Bina is uncannily similar to Don McClean’s Starry Starry Night"
  18.Beat Of Passion [Film: Taal] inspired from Devil On Turkish Highway By Al Di Meola and Steve Vai
  19.NAHI SAMUNE [Film: Taal] inspired from TITANIC movie BGM
  20.Pooraley Ponnuthayi [Film: Karuthamma] inspired from a Popular Pakistani Song
  21.Endrendum Punnagai [Film: Alaypayudhey] inspired from Cold Hearted By Paula Abdu
  22.Telephone Mani Poll [Film: Indian] inspired from Indian Lonely Hearts Club Band By Paul Young & All that She Wants
  23.Mellisaye [Film: Mr.Romeo] heavily inspired from theme music 'Ennio Morricone' For a few dollars more
  24.Chikku bukku chikku bukku rayilu (Film: Gentleman) inspired from Popular British Airways Commercial
  25.Mangta hai kya (Film: Rangeela) inspired from Devil inside(INXS)
  26.Ennai kaanavillaye (Film:kaadhal desam) inspired from Enigma (MCMXC AD)
  27.Bombay Theme music [Film: Bombay] inspired from Wyaat Earp
  28.En veettu thottathil [Film: Gentleman] copied from Naadhavindhu (Thirupugazh) by MLV
  29.Sowkyamaa kanne [Film: Sangamam] inspired from Vaanthin meethu by Ramalinga swamigal Arutpa
  30.Enna Villai Azhage [Film: Kadhal Desam] from '...Meley' by MS Vishwanathan, Shivaji Starrer.
  
  ARR is being loved by his fans for his creative Sounds, beats & Rhythms. He gives so much info on his Album Label Covers, it will be helpful if he gives the source from where he has created his creatives too.
  
  Is there any need for IR to inspire from ARR?
  
  
• From: rahmandreams (@ 156.26.5.86) on: Thu Jun 26 18:54:28 EDT 2003
  
  u asssholes will never learn. there is something called coincidence, samples and above all of it rubbish. the gentleman above me is doing nothing else
  
  

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