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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: September (@ 202.54.153.21) on: Tue Sep 7 04:45:37 EDT 2004
  
  Excellent singing..Pathos and KJY - a deadly combo.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 137.140.142.87) on: Tue Sep 7 10:33:19 EDT 2004
  
  I already have the SOTD of today on a compilation tape of KJY 80s hits, so I have no need to listen to the song online. :-)) The song's certainly a winner. Although, in comparison to other KJY pathos songs like 'Oomai Nenjin Sontham,' 'Kanavu Kaanum,' 'Vellaippuraa Ondru' or 'Vanna Nilave Vaigai Nathiye', I think 'Chinna Chinna Roja Poove' pales.
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 68.231.12.84) on: Tue Sep 7 11:42:17 EDT 2004
  
  I simply love to listen to this song, usually followed by "Eeramaana rojave", for some reason. Probably because both are about kids, and have KJY and IR:-) Really miss that innocence and emotions now-a-days.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Sep 7 11:49:12 EDT 2004
  
  This is one song which I liked more after multiple listenings...
  
  
• From: purv (@ 137.140.142.87) on: Tue Sep 7 22:21:59 EDT 2004
  
  Actually, on the tape this song's on, 'Eeramaana Rojaave' comes right after. How coincidental!! :-))
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57) on: Wed Sep 8 00:41:43 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: konjum kiLiyaana from gooNduk kiLi.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/konjumkili.rm
  
  - Sung by TMS. Composed by K.V.Mahadevan. Written by Vindhan.
  
  - Manisegaran wrote in his series on KVM:
  
  In 1954 Through Maruthakazi’s recommendation TMS was taken to sing in Aruna Pictures Thooku Thookki. He was taken to the Film Center Studio for recording. Sivaji Ganesan who used to be given playback by CSJayaraman doubted the suitability of the voice of TMS. TMS was willing to sing three songs free. TMS and Sivaji Ganesan were introduced to each other. In the short conversation TMS studied the voice of Sivaji Ganesan. (Right from the beginning TMS was excellent at imitating the voices of most of the heroes he sang for.) And he did sing Sundari Soundari and Eratha Malaithaniley, imitating the voice of Sivaji Ganesan to the closest possible. When G Ramanaathan heard his voice and gave TMS the chance to sing all the songs for Sivaji Ganesan. G.Ramanathan had already used TMS in Mandiri Kumari (Annamitta Veettile). That was how Sivaji got involved with TMS. All the songs were instant and great hits. The fame of TMS shot sky high overnight. There was already a talk that the voice of TMS suited Sivaji Ganesan very much.
  
  While this development was going on, in the same 1954 TR Ramanna and TR Rajakumari started the RR films that produced some of the best movies in Tamil. As the film was under production stage, TMS was given a chance. TMS was invited to sing only chorus. But Tanjai Ramayah Dass was very impressed with the golden voice of TMS, and he requested the story and dialogue writer Vindhan (at that time known as Makkal Writer, and a close friend of Jayakanthan) to give TMS a chance to sing a full solo. By this time Sivaji Ganesan had known TMS as they had worked together in Thookku Thooki songs. Koondukkili is the first film where TMS had sung under KVM’s composition, with the song Konjum Kiliyana Pennai. It was actually G. Ramanathan who built up TMS by that great movie.
  
  That was the first song by TMS for Sivaji Ganesan. Just to mention that in films following Thookku Thookki, Sivaji Ganesan was not adamant about using TMS as playback singer, until the early 1960s when he started to insist on TMS singing for him.
  
  But as the song was recorded MGR heard it and wanted TMS to be his permanent singer. He was used in MGR’s next movie Malaikallan where TMS sang Ethanai Kaalamthaan Ematruvaar Intha Naattiley” written by Tanjai Ramaiyah Dass and composed by S.M. Subbiah Naidu. History has it that Koondukkili was the only film where MGR and Sivaji, the two Thilagams acted together. P.A. Periayanayaki sings a song called “Enakku Theriyaley Nejamaa Enakku Theriyialey.” There was also a Deepavali song by TMS and K. Rani that goes “Vaangga Ellorum”.
  
  A song by Ratha Jayalechumy that became popular in this film is:
  
  Paar En Maghaley Paar paar,
  Paranthu Kidakkum Annai Boomi
  Arinthunnai Azhaikkuthu Paar Paar
  
  But in this film it was Konjum Kilyana Pennai that made TMS very famous. From then on the TMS-KVM combination started off. There is a situation in the film where Thangaraju (MGR) asks Jeeva (Sivaji Ganesan) to look after his wife when Thangaraju is forced to go to jail owing to circumstances. Jeeva goes for Thangaraju’s wife whom he had fallen in love earlier. Then Jeeva faces a severe conflict within himself as to whether his action was justified. The song is very well written to suit this conflict. Can anyone answer these questions that Jeeva asks?
  
  
  Konjum Kiliyaana Pennai
  Koondukkiliyaaki Vittu
  Ketti Melam Kottuvathu Sariya Thappa?
  Thinna Pazham Thanthuvittu
  Thinnathey Enru Kaiyai Thattivittu
  Thittuvathu Sariya Thappaa?
  
  Theenthamizh Paattai Paadi
  Ketkaathey Enru Kaathai
  Pothivittu Kathuvathu Sariya Thappa ?
  
  Kaathal Seitha Kutram Enathu
  Kankal Seitha Kutramaanaal
  Kannai Padaitha Kadavul Seikai Sariya Thappa?
  
  Kalyanam Seitha Kutram
  Enathu Nanbam Seitha Kutramaanaal
  Katpai Padaitha Manithan Seikai Sariya Thappa?
  Sariya Thappa? Sariya Thappa? Saria Thappa? Sariya Thappa?
  
  
  Kaathal Pichai Vendi Kaiyai Enthi
  Vasal Kathu Ninraal
  Saathirangal Pesuvathu Sariya Thappa?
  Anbu Konda Ullathodu
  Kallamilla Kathal Kondaal
  Aathirangondu Esuvathu Sariya Thappa?
  
  Mannum Ponnum Maayai Enru
  Makkalukku Solliviuttu
  Pennai Paarthu Kannadithal Sariya Thappa?
  
  Vinnulaga Asayinri
  Virumbum Pennai Nesathodu
  Kanniyamaai Kaathalithal Sariya Thappa?
  Matroruvan Vaazhvukkaka
  Manamarintha Pennai Vittu
  Manamudainthu Sutruvathu Sariya Thappa?
  
  Marumalarchi Vendum Vaazhvil
  Marakkamaaten Unnai Enru
  Malarkkarathai Patruvathu Sariya Thappa?
  Sariya Thappa? Sariya Thappa?
  
  - Poet Vindhan remembered: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/17520.11.50.05.html
  
  - Manisegaran on K.V.Mahadevan: http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/mani/kvm.html
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 65.54.98.149) on: Wed Sep 8 00:55:56 EDT 2004
  
  Amazing song, bb. Great writeup by Manisegaran as always. Vindhan does a magnificent job of sidestepping the obvious and going for the philosophical roots of desire and temptation in the Shakespearean vein. While Kannadhaasan summed up temptation as "kaNNaip padaithu peNNaip padaiththa iRaivan kodiyavanE", Vindhan dwells in the inconclusive gray area. I remember discussing this with some folks in the old songs thread. Glad to see this song reach more people.
  
  
• From: B.P. THIAGARAJAN (@ 61.11.34.169) on: Wed Sep 8 01:40:20 EDT 2004
  
  A nice song. Usually TR Rammanna song picturisation was good. This is a landmark song for TMS and KVM.
  Writer Govindan known as Vindan wrote the song. For this movie only he also wrote Mayakkum malai Poluthe. However both MGR and Sivaji wanted the song to be pictureised on them. Diplomatically, TRR did not include in Koondukili. In the next movie of TRR, MGR acted and he included Mayakkum Malai, though MD were MSV&TKR. KVM did not generously objected to include his song in other's Movie. Vindan was the lyricst for Gulebagavali.
  
  
• From: Senty (@ 128.231.88.6) on: Wed Sep 8 12:14:46 EDT 2004
  
  what happened to sara....
  
  
• From: Kana (@ 69.194.139.251) on: Wed Sep 8 19:27:09 EDT 2004
  
  What a Web....site...vry good...
  Will you build to listen to all songs....
  
  253......is mine.....f.....
  
  Thank you ....
  
  Mohan.......Kir...
  
  
• From: Kana (@ 69.194.139.251) on: Wed Sep 8 19:27:33 EDT 2004
  
  What a Web....site...very good...
  Will you build to listen to all songs....
  
  253......is mine.....f.....
  
  Thank you ....
  
  Mohan.......Kir...
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57) on: Thu Sep 9 02:13:03 EDT 2004
  
  

  Song of the Day # 500: uLLamellaam thaLLaadudhE from dhoorathu idi muzhakkam.

  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/ullamellaam.rm
  
  Song Of The Day section hits # 500 today! I've been running this section for two years now. Thanks to all of you for your inputs, responses and criticisms. Any amount of feedback is appreciated and helps to keep us going.
  
  Special thanks to Saravanan who has been a regular contributor for more than a year, writing on a song each week.
  
  - Thanks to Arun V for this song. I was searching for it for a long time. Sung by K.J.Yesudas & S.Janaki. Lyrics by Ku.Ma.Balasubramaniam. Music by Salil Choudhry. I had not heard the song for more than ten years; I had seen the movie only once and the song probably twice or so; But something in the song haunted me. To listen to the song after so long gave me goosebumps. The style of the song is one that is seldom seen in TFM.
  
  - Saravanan writes:
  
  dhooraththu idi muzhakkam (5.12.1980/ Sai Sudha Films) would have been forgotten today, had it not been for two factors. One is that this film is often mentioned in any article on Vijayakanth, for it happened to be his first film as hero. He had acted in inikkum iLamai, agal viLakku, neerOttam and saamandhipoo, but it was director/producer K.Vijayan who first cast him as the hero in dhooraththu idi muzhakkam. Vijayakanth, Poornima and Peelisivam were in the cast.
  
  The film recounted a seaside saga of a doomed romance. It opens with a group of tourists passing by a quaint hamlet on the seashore. Chancing upon a statuette of a woman, they are eager to know her history. And an obliging villager commences the narration.
  
  Ponnan(Vijayakanth) a young fisherman and the willowy Chelli (Poornima) are deeply in love. The world seems to be at their feet when tragedy strikes. Ponnan is believed lost at sea. Chelli is coerced into marrying Maari (Peelisivam). Chelli resigns herself to a tranquil marital life; she even finds solace in the form of motherhood. But Maari is besieged with suspicion concerning her fidelity; and abetted by an unscrupulous sorcerer, schemes to offer his child in a ritual sacrifice to obtain riches. Ponnan unexpectedly resurfaces now, and saves the infant from a gory death. The proceedings then drift to a tragic climax.
  
  An intense love story with a third angle, set against the magnificent backdrop of the surging sea could have reached the epic proportions of chemmeen, had it been handled sensitively. Unfortunately K.Vijayan seemed to have lost direction midway and abandoned ship. And the rudderless story, wrecked further by meandering into a hurricane of rustic superstitions, witchcraft and village lore, left the hapless viewers sadly at sea. The film, quite justifiably, sank without a trace.
  
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  The other reason why this film remains etched in memory is, of course, this wonderful song.
  
  K.Vijayan sought the forgotten Ku.Ma.Ba, and entrusted him with writing the songs. The veteran lyricist, whose poetic lines had fetched lingering luster to tfm in the 50s, found himself gradually sidelined from the onset of the 60s. At K.Vijayan’s invitation, Ku.Ma.Ba wrote the lyrics for all the songs of dhooraththu idi muzhakkam. The lines were filled with simple, yet delightfully apposite flights of lyrical beauty. Two years later, Ku.Ma.Ba. wrote 2 songs for kanavugaL kaRpanaigaL. But despite ‘veLLam polE thuLLum uLLangaLE’ (SPB & Poorani) and ‘thendRal oru thaaLam sonnadhu’ (JC), tuned imaginatively by GA, finding fleeting popularity, K.Ma.Ba. faded once again to oblivion, never to return to tfm.
  
  K.Vijayan has been known to ignore the reigning MDs of the day every now and then, and send for talented composers waiting for a break. It was Vijayan who brought G.Devarajan to tfm, by entrusting him with the score for his kaaval deivam (1969). Later Vijayan brought in his old ‘comrade’ MBS to work for films like pudhu veLLam (1975) and madhana maaLigai (1976). He gave the neglected G.K.Venkatesh a film too, and GKV came up with some winsome songs in azhagu (1984). Perhaps K.Vijayan intended to make an immortal coastal love story like chemmeen, and thus signed up Salil Chowdhury to recreate the magic that Salil had conjured up years ago for that Malayalam masterpiece. Or probably he was impressed with Salil’s work in azhiyaadha kOlangaL, which was released the previous year. Whatever be the providential provocation, Vijayan has earned the undying gratitude of tfm fans for the only intelligent decision of his in the course of this damning debacle.
  
  It was the genius Ramu Kariat who brought Salil down south in 1965 to compose music for his magnum opus chemmeen. And sitting in Room No. 28 in the old Woodlands Hotel in Chennai, Salil diligently crafted the landmark album. The rest, as they say, is history. The besotted Malayalis now acquired one other common passion, besides communism and football, to share with their Bengali brethren. With his scintillating songs in film after film, Salil went on to carve a hallowed niche for himself in mfm. His albums like Swapnam, Nellu, Ragam, Raasaleela, St.Thomas and Air Hostess are a discerning collector’s delight even to this day.
  
  Sadly, contemporary tfm just didn’t have the catholicity to embrace this genius and celebrate his music. The first timid foray that Salil made into Tamil Cinema was uyir (1971/ TVS Productions), for which he composed only the bgm, while the songs went to an obscure Ramana Sridhar. The next opportunity came in 1973 when Ramu Kariat got Salil to compose 3 songs for his ambitious karumbu. Though the project was given up, the immortal ‘thingaL maalai veNkudaiyaan’ (KJY & PS versions) and ‘kaNNE ..kaNmaNiyE ’ (Sabita Chowdhury) were triumphantly propagated by Radio Ceylon throughout the 70s. In 1978, when Shankaran Nair’s madanOlsavam was dubbed into Tamil as paruvamazhai (Raghava International), Salil’s exquisite compositions like ‘maadapuRaavE vaa’ (KJY), ‘thEnmalar kannigaL maaRanai nEsikkum’ (SJ), ‘kaalamagaL medai naadagam’ (KJY) and ‘angE sengathir saaindhaan angE’ (SJ) wafted in the airwaves for a while.
  
  When Balumahendra turned director in 1977 with the Kannada film kOkila, he got Salil to work on the score. And when he bagged his first directorial venture in Tamil, he went to Salil again to compose the songs. azhiyaadha kOlangaL (1979/ Devi Films) boasted of treasures like ‘poo vaNNam pOla nenjam (JC/PS), ‘naan eNNum pozhudhu’ (SPB) and ‘kedacha unakku sugam’. Though all the 3 tunes were drawn from Salil’s prior works in other languages, they fitted amazingly well in the pastoral horizon that
  Balumahendra summoned up.
  
  dhooraththu idi muzhakkam was the next and also the last Tamil film that had music by Salil. There were 5 songs in the album: the haunting ‘maNiviLakkaal amma’ (KJY), the rhythmic ‘sevvalli poovE chithirappoompaavai’ (SJ, chorus), the angler’s anthem ‘valai yEndhi chelvOM’ (SPB, PS, chorus) and the breezy ‘There is a rainbow in the distant sky’ (Jayachandran, Sabita Chowdhury, Sherene Peters & Ravi, which had the Tamil lines penned by Ku.Ma.Ba. and the English lines written by Salil himself!) and, of course, the tour de force ‘uLLamellaam thaLLaadudhE’.
  
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  The moonbeams play tantalizingly on the silvery waves; after another day of tiring toil, the entire hamlet lays its flushed cheek against night’s comforting bosom and falls into fitful slumber. The entire hamlet, except of course, Ponnan and Chelli…
  
  They have kept to their moonlight rendezvous again, and seem overwhelmed at the pleasure that these stolen moments of intimacy usher in. She can’t help humming in sheer bliss, and then finds words to convey the deluge of emotions, the delicious turbulence in her heart that the joy of being in her lover’s arms evokes. And the waves seem to surge in empathy. In that moment of rapture, she wonders, half-fearing, if this joy would last, if all their dreams of a life together would come true…Like a soothing balm to erase her fears, he tenderly assures her that he would marry her against all odds, and
  vows to protect her with his love and care.
  
  Salil created a joyous, original tune for this wondrous song. And for many of us who first heard it more than twenty years ago, it still seems to be forever new, even timeless in its enchantment. I am unaware of the technical aspects of music, but this song fills me with inexplicable thrill, with infinite awe.. Like a child whose small feet have strayed into some dim-lit temple of the God he knows he has to worship, but doesn’t comprehend wholly why, I happily become one amongst the multitude of proletarian fans for whom Salil Chowdhury seems surely much more than merely human.
  
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.197.203.98) on: Thu Sep 9 04:06:44 EDT 2004
  
  bb,
  after watching the chair umpire and linespersons collectively conspiring to take out Serena , I was wondering why Saravanan had not kept his Wednesday rendezvous.
  Now I understand , with uncanny cunning you had planned it to get Saravanan do the 500 th song. This time I have no regrets. he richly deserves it. And so do YOU. Pat on your back from the ancient mariner ;-)
  coming to the SOTD, the song is a gentle breezy duet ruined by the rather gaudy print. ( Orwo colour processing pola?)KJY is as usual sensuous and SJ efficient.
  I have never been a Salil"da" fan nor do I think I'll become one (in spite of the efforts of a DFr - with lot of facts and figures-a couple of years back! )I feel that he was more suited to the semi classical rut of Bengali music .
  this song reminds me of another kadarkarai duet from IR " Oru padal aasayodu kaathil ketatho manadodu unjalaanadho" by the same pair .
  But the kadalkarai has never been properly utilised in Tamil Films. Before anybody reminds me of K B let me hasten to add that the waves have only overacted (?!?) in Sindhu bhairavi and Maro Charitra.
  the only worthwhile effort was on the much maligned DD TV in the chinna screen adaptation of Vannanilavan's Kadalpurathil- the story of a fishing hamlet told through the eyes of Philomina. unfortunately i did get to watch only a couple of episodes.
  with nostalgic (attaboy yet again) yearning to smell the uppu kaatru ....:-)
  
  

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