Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.
The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
"Raga based film songs" Database | Old Database | Indian Classical Music Forum | Hindi Raaga of Songs Thread
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.57)
on: Fri Mar 22 15:43:09 EST 2002
Is "Adi Rakkamma Kaiya thattu" in film Thalabathy Suddadanyasi?....kelvithaanga kaetkaren I'm not claiming nething
- From: Madhav (@ 172.186.171.46)
on: Fri Mar 22 16:08:17 EST 2002
Guys can anybody tell me the raga of Oliyile Therivadhu from Azhagi?
Any ideas from Mun Paniya? I am getting a mix of Samuthrapriya and Sumaneesaranjani in this but also as it is having some janya swaras I can't name it?
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.57)
on: Fri Mar 22 17:01:43 EST 2002
Oliyile therivadhu is Keeravani I guess..
I leave the decision to the experts
- From: mandu (@ 203.196.128.8)
on: Fri Mar 22 20:30:48 EST 2002
Ram,
Yen ivolo bhayapadarel!?!?!
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Mon Mar 25 02:14:46 EST 2002
ennappa yaaraiyum kanom?ulagathula naan mattumthaan vettiya irukkena?
- From: mandu (@ 203.196.128.8)
on: Mon Mar 25 03:04:55 EST 2002
ram,
amaam!
btw.. naanpaadum from the movie duet? ragam?
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Mon Mar 25 04:42:03 EST 2002
Duet padathula ippadi oru paatta?
naan kaetathe illai
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Mon Mar 25 04:42:20 EST 2002
Duet padathula ippadi oru paatta?
naan kaetathe illai
- From: mandu (@ 203.196.128.8)
on: Mon Mar 25 06:32:07 EST 2002
anda saxophone (kadri gopalnath) paattu..
naan paadum sangam... etc etc...
- From: P. Anand a.k.a bond (@ 203.195.180.99)
on: Mon Mar 25 08:46:36 EST 2002
Hi guys. I am a layman ( read GNYANASOONIYAM), sort of babe in the woods. Is the song "RENDU KANNUM SANTHANAKINNNAM" from SIVAPPU MALLI in RAAG Kharaharapriya. Imagined so when I played it on my Keyboard.
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Mon Mar 25 15:01:56 EST 2002
Mandu....
...I think naan paadum santham from duet is based Kalayana Vasantham...not very sure...
but iam sure that the title sax piece (in Duet) is based on kalyana vasantham...
knock...knock...experts am i right...
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.57)
on: Mon Mar 25 17:57:52 EST 2002
Prabhu...
U've got that right it is Kalyanavasantham indeed.....
- From: MS (@ )
on: Tue Mar 26 10:31:16 EST 2002
Naan paadum sandham is definitely not kalyaaNa vasantham. Sounds more like a variant of kalyaNi.
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Tue Mar 26 12:27:27 EST 2002
"Naan paadum sandham" in Duet (atleast the Kadri part) sounds more like Mohanam and some nuances similar to Kalyani, may be bcoz mohanam branches from Kalyani melakartha? May be its the 'filmy' version of MohanaKalyani??? (there are a few good carnatic kritis in this Raaga)
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue Mar 26 15:44:22 EST 2002
ayya neenga entha pattu solreenganu theriyalai but I heard a Kalyanavasantham Kadri solo in the cassette...."Naan Padum sonthamnu" en cassette la oru track illai....but this much i can say there is one Good Kalyanavasantham.....
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Tue Mar 26 16:53:22 EST 2002
Ram, I was talking about the song sung by SPB filled with Kadri's saxophone. Heard it from megacinema.com just before writing here. confusionku mannikavum!
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Wed Mar 27 04:02:57 EST 2002
Anu,
naanthaan mannippu kaetkanam.....thappa purinchukutta vera oru paattoda ragatha intha pattukku sollitten....sorry abt that
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Wed Mar 27 13:40:36 EST 2002
Not a problem Ram!
- From: drb (@ 211.24.0.143)
on: Wed Mar 27 22:57:01 EST 2002
can anyone help me to identify any songs based on Bavapriya
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Thu Mar 28 00:00:41 EST 2002
drb Kandupudichen Kandupidichen in film Guru Sishyan is BHavapriya (I think)....
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Thu Mar 28 00:41:03 EST 2002
:-) Ram, don't just think. Be sure it is BHAVAPRIYA only :-)
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.88)
on: Thu Mar 28 14:57:03 EST 2002
Is "vaanile Thenilaa" Gowrimanohari?
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Thu Mar 28 16:57:50 EST 2002
Ram, are you talking about the song in " kaaki chatai" - spb, janaki duet? influence of Ahirbhairavi, i think but not sure. Not Gowrimanohari (best one in films- 'paatum naanae bhaavuum naanae' from Thiruvilaiyaadal).
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.57)
on: Thu Mar 28 17:09:59 EST 2002
Anu,
Listen to the interludes and charanams...I could see traces of ahir bairav but somehow I get the feeling of GM too I dunno y:-)
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Thu Mar 28 17:44:29 EST 2002
Ram, It might sound in some places like GM as the variation between GM and Suryakantham (melakartha for Ahirbairavi) is in Rishabam and Ghandharam only, but definitely not a pure GM in the charanam of the song. Does this sound sense or am i missing something?
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Thu Mar 28 22:07:17 EST 2002
Anu,
I never took a stance for GM....may be u are right....thanx neway....but I'm not sure whether u can call it as pure Ahirbhairav too..
Thanx once again
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Thu Mar 28 22:08:24 EST 2002
I thought Ahir Bhairav is Chakaravaham....dint know it is janya raga....can u clarify
- From: drb (@ 203.121.0.15)
on: Thu Mar 28 23:48:06 EST 2002
hi pals help me to identify few more songs on the 44 th melakartha raagam bavapriya. other than 'kandupiduchen kandupidichen' from guru sisyan
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Mar 29 02:01:10 EST 2002
drb,
There is no other "bhavapriya" song in TFM i guess.
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Fri Mar 29 08:09:02 EST 2002
Ram, Chakravagam is a melakartha (16)[ eg., as in nee paadi naan paadi kanne (Keladi Kanmani)]
S R1 G3 M1 P D2 N2 S
S N2 D2 P M1 G3 R1 S
Ahirbhairavi is a janya from Suryakantam (17)
S R1 G3 M1 P N2 D2 M1 P D2 S
S N2 D2 P M1 P G3 R1 S
any errors, manippu ketkaraen in advance! Not at all a problem in taking stance, think as an effective exchange of gyaanam, it really helps!
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Fri Mar 29 08:12:31 EST 2002
DRB, IR_fan,
Paarta vizhi (Yesudas) from Guna, i think is based on Bhavapriya alias Bhavani(?). Pls clarify
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Mar 29 08:28:57 EST 2002
Paarta vizhi is Bhavani..am not sure whether it is same as bhavapriya...
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Mar 29 08:30:19 EST 2002
knock knock experts ...are they both same???
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Fri Mar 29 08:36:10 EST 2002
Prabhu,
Bhavaani, i understand, is the equivalent of Bhavapriya, in Dikshitar system. Pls do keep me posted.
- From: gurumurthyrk (@ 203.199.232.170)
on: Fri Mar 29 10:35:21 EST 2002
What ragam is "Melliname Melliname" in Shajagan set to.....
- From: gurumurthyrk (@ 203.199.232.170)
on: Fri Mar 29 10:50:04 EST 2002
Can anyone pls tell me if you have heard this number from maestro IR... film "nenjil aadum poo ondru"... song..."kodi inbam meni engum paynthathamma"... in malayamarutham.....SPB/SJ
this film was released/supposed to have been released in the early 80s. As a college goer, I remember this song.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.205)
on: Fri Mar 29 11:06:54 EST 2002
Anu, Prabhu:
Bhavapriya (aka Bhavaani as Anu said - In the Asampoorna Melakartha scheme) is the 44th melakartha raagam
Notes:
Sa Ri1 Ga2 Ma2 Pa Dha1 Ni2 Sa
Sa Ni2 Dha1 Pa Ma2 Ga2 Ri1 Sa
But the great melody Paartha Vizhi paartha is set in another melakartha called Paavani (not Bhavaani). Paavani is 41st mela and until I heard this song, I never knew Paavani is such a beautiful raaga!!!!!
Notes: Sa Ri1 Ga1 Ma2 Pa Dha2 Ni3 Sa
Sa Ni3 Dha2 Pa Ma2 Ga1 Ri1 Sa
Oh such a soothing melody!!!!
- From: Anu (@ 68.49.138.51)
on: Fri Mar 29 11:18:49 EST 2002
IR, Thank you so much for clarifying 'paavani' & 'bhavani'. yes, thats a very mellifluous one!
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Fri Mar 29 11:22:33 EST 2002
IR,
intha ahir bairav prichanaiya konjam theerthu vekka koodaatha?
"vaanile thenila" ragam enna seekaram sollungappa.....
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.205)
on: Fri Mar 29 11:38:45 EST 2002
:-) ram - irunga vaanile thaenila paattu kettuttu varen - dhool.com la seriya download aagala :-)
Here are my thoughts on AB vs Chakravaham:
Aahir bhairav and chakravaham are similar ragas. AB is the hindhusthani Equivalent of Carnatic Chakravaham. Anu, if you consider it to be a janya raga in carnatic scheme because of its vakra scale, it has to be Chakravaham's janyam. I am not sure if you classified it under Sooryakanthamfor any specific reason? Ahir Bhairav takes Ni2 note and Sooryakantham is a mela with Ni3 note.
drb, if you are looking for non-film songs, I have a few more in Bhavapriya. But as other said, I think Kandupudichen kandupudichen is the only or may be the only popular song in this raga
Melliname melliname is based on ShankarabharaNam with some Mohanam interludes and some Ni2 usage too.. but song is predominantly in SB.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.205)
on: Fri Mar 29 11:51:54 EST 2002
ennapa aviyal kku ellam raagam kekkareenga :-) as Anu says, Chakravaham nnu sollalaam nnu paartha ennalaamo notes varadhu :-) I give up :-)
- From: rajaraman (@ 203.197.61.180)
on: Fri Mar 29 12:05:44 EST 2002
Can someone tell me raga of the song "chinna chinna vanna kuyil" by Janaki in Mouna Ragam (Ilaya Raja)
Is it Keeravani?
List all pages of this thread
Post comments
Sections:
Home -
TFM Magazine -
Forum -
Wiki -
POW -
oPod -
Lyrics -
Pictures -
Music Notes -
Forums: Current Topics - Ilayaraja Albums - A.R. Rahman Albums - TFM Oldies - Fun & Games
Ilaiyaraja: Releases - News - Share Music - AR Rahman: Releases - News - AOTW - Tweets -
Discussions: MSV - YSR - GVP - Song Requests - Song stats - Raga of songs - Copying - Tweets
Database: Main - Singers - Music Director's - Lyricists Fun: PP - EKB - Relay - Satires - Quiz
Forums: Current Topics - Ilayaraja Albums - A.R. Rahman Albums - TFM Oldies - Fun & Games
Ilaiyaraja: Releases - News - Share Music - AR Rahman: Releases - News - AOTW - Tweets -
Discussions: MSV - YSR - GVP - Song Requests - Song stats - Raga of songs - Copying - Tweets
Database: Main - Singers - Music Director's - Lyricists Fun: PP - EKB - Relay - Satires - Quiz