Topic started by SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on Sun Aug 1 21:44:58 EDT 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Please announce the availability/uploading of
old Thamizh film songs in real audio (or other
formats) in this page. Discussions on the songs
and also requests for particular songs can be
made here.
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: Ramki (@ pm536-36.dialip.mich.net)
on: Wed Aug 4 22:55:22 EDT 1999
'en purushan thaan enakku mattum thaan' song in
"manadhinil ore oru poo poothadhu
poo poothadhu
malarum ninaivugal thaan vandhadhu"
- From: Ramki (@ pm536-36.dialip.mich.net)
on: Wed Aug 4 22:57:33 EDT 1999
typo it should be 'is' and not 'in'
- From: rameshb (@ spider-wn042.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Aug 4 23:02:19 EDT 1999
SK,
ungaLukku Ayiram muRai nandri ...
You have uploaded one of my favorite number
"anbu nadamaadum kalai koodamE, aasi mazhai megame" What a melody! TMS's sangthis are just awesome "mAdhavi kodi poovin ithazhOrame.... mayakkam madhuch chAramE....". Is this song based on some hindhusthani raaga? TMS and PS are competing each other with their expressions and both win the listners heart!
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Aug 4 23:02:46 EDT 1999
Ramki:
I will try to get the other kanavu kaNdEn
song.
It's interesting to know about IR's inspiration
from thuLLi thuLLi alaigaL.
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Aug 4 23:06:05 EDT 1999
rameshb:
We seem to have posted simultaneously! Yes,
anbu nadamaadum is a masterpiece.
idhil mEy, mEy endru varuvadhaal
naangaL idhai aattukkutti paadal endru
solvadhuNdu.
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed Aug 4 23:09:34 EDT 1999
rameshb:
To add: the recording style that MSV used for
avandhaan manidhan is quite unique. Can
some expert comment on this? I don't know on
what raagaa this song is based. (Sriram Lakshman:
engE pOyitteenga? We need your comments.)
- From: rameshb (@ spider-wn042.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Aug 4 23:14:29 EDT 1999
SK,
I still remember seeing the lyrics of this song appearing in 'aandip paNdAram pAdugirAr' column in 'thinath thanthi' those days. I think it is penned by Kannadasan.
- From: Bhasker, Bangalore (@ ppp-89-19.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Aug 5 01:59:25 EDT 1999
rameshb:
There is a song by PS which goes like this:
Vasantha kaalam varumo
Nilai maarumo
Vaigai perugi varumo
Tuyar neengumo
I think it is from Shanthi Nilayam. It was haunting me for a long time and one day I watched Lalgudi playing on the TV a raagam called Misra Sivaranjani and I could immediately match it to this song. Can you get hold of this song and post it Neyar Viruppam?
- From: SK (@ 137.132.5.50)
on: Thu Aug 5 02:29:44 EDT 1999
Bhasker:
That haunting song is from the movie, Marakka
Mudiyumaa. MD: TKRamamurthy. I have read
somwehere that the raga is vagatheeswari.
Experts: comment please.
- From: Ramki (@ 98c8a2b0.ipt.aol.com)
on: Thu Aug 5 09:02:12 EDT 1999
Bhasker i have been looking for this song for ages but couldnt get hold of it. Its a beautiful song. You forgot to mention the humming by KJY(maybe this is the only song he just did humming)
- From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com)
on: Thu Aug 5 10:41:52 EDT 1999
Bhaskar,
that is one of the wonderful melodies of PS. I will try to fetch it. If available , i will upload it.
SK , you might be able to get this song faster than me! I live in a place where there are no tamil audio shops.
- From: pg (@ hqinbh1.ms.com)
on: Thu Aug 5 13:16:22 EDT 1999
marakka mudiyumA is kalaignar's film right ? I think this ultimate tearjerker was directed by murasoli mARan. There is another good song in the film : kAkidha Odam kadalalai meedhu pOvadhu pOle moovarum pOvOm. All songs were by kalaignar.
- From: not_a_Ragam_expert (@ icon-njfw.icon.com)
on: Thu Aug 5 13:55:08 EDT 1999
SK:
I think the ragam is Baageshwari (one more of the same ragam is Nilave Ennidam Nerungadhey - film?)
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com)
on: Thu Aug 5 17:35:24 EDT 1999
SK, Srikanth said that the raag for "Anbu Nadamaadum" was Vasanthi.
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Aug 5 17:51:12 EDT 1999
Sriram:
It's good to see you here. Thanks for mentioning
the raaga for anbu nadamaadum. What about
vasantha kaalam varumO from Marakka Mudiyumaa?
BTW, are you able to listen to the songs using a
RA player? I will write to you soon. Sorry for
the delay.
- From: Ramamurthy (@ pppsl2134.chicagonet.net)
on: Thu Aug 5 20:22:40 EDT 1999
'Vasantha kalam varumo' is based on the raga Valaji (Kalavathi in Hindustani classical).There are many beautiful Hindi songs in this raga although I cannot recollect any tamil film songs off hand.This film is a real first rate effort by T.K.Ramamurthy.
Ramamurthy.
- From: pozhudhu pogaadha bommu (ppb) (@ 1cust27.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Thu Aug 5 21:13:50 EDT 1999
Is it TKR himself? :))
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Aug 5 21:52:40 EDT 1999
(ppb) Karthi:
umakku eppOdhum kiNdaldhaan!
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Thu Aug 5 21:52:54 EDT 1999
Ramamurty,
I think it's not really valaji. If you listen to PS's swaras, there is a rare R1. Could be kalaavathi. (FYI.. 'pongum kadalosai' is in valaji)
- From: Bhasker, Bangalore (@ ppp-89-19.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Aug 5 23:27:30 EDT 1999
Ramki,
Foolish of me to forget KJY's humming. I have never heard him only hum like you said. While on the subject of songs based on ragaas, how about this one by PS based on Behaag:
Kannan mana nilayai thangame thangam
Kandu varavendumadi thangame thangam
If I am not mistaken, that is a piece by Bharathiyar. The music is by G.Ramanathan. It contains an amazing piece in Veena.
- From: ppb (@ 1cust18.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Fri Aug 6 00:14:51 EDT 1999
Bhasker, S Janaki is very popular in Bangalore also. She has sung a lot of Kannada, Malayaalam, Tamil and Telugu songs. And 'Kannan mana nilayai' is by S Janaki :))
- From: thoopam :) (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Fri Aug 6 01:51:39 EDT 1999
Also, 'kannan mananilayai' is a ragamalika
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ snfcb703-07.splitrock.net)
on: Fri Aug 6 04:14:40 EDT 1999
Bhasker,the pallavi of "Kannan..." seems to be in Abheri. The stanza "neram muzhuthilum.." is in Behag.
SK, no problem. I am relatively free these days.I think I need to configure my real player properly before I start listening to your tasteful collection of songs, superb indeed!
SK, Rameshb, please try uploading "Thedi varum theiva sugam" from nimirnthu nil, a super duet. Do you have the non-cinema version of "en keLvikenna bathil"? This version had a much superior arrangement. Any songs from 'Jenova' will be welcome.
BTW, I too think that 'Vasantha Kaalam' is not Valaj though it could remind one of 'Govinda..', a Purandaradasar Krithi based on Valaji. One request, please do not watch this movie, even if you have been forced to do so at a gun-point. First of all, the song is absent and the movie itself can drive a person to the throes of insanity.
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Aug 6 05:05:55 EDT 1999
Sriram:
You can listen thEdi varum dheiva sugam at:
http://members.xoom.com/ppp_songs/thedi_varum.ram
There is one more version of the same song, I
think.
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Aug 6 05:25:13 EDT 1999
Sriram:
Here is the second version of thEdi varum...
http://members.xoom.com/ppp_songs/thedi_varum2.ram
I haven't seen the movie. So I don't know the need
for the two versions!
- From: Bhasker, Bangalore (@ ppp-89-19.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Aug 6 05:30:44 EDT 1999
ppb:
My mistake. It IS by S.Janaki. And yes, it is a raagamaalika. But doesn't it begin with Behaag?
- From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Aug 6 06:13:59 EDT 1999
Bhasker:
You are asking wrong things from ppb. People like
ppb and I are faaaaar off from this raga stuff.
What do you say, ppb?
- From: Bhasker, Bangalore (@ ppp-89-19.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Aug 6 07:27:42 EDT 1999
SK:
Sorry. May be we should move the discussions on the classical portion of TFM to a separate thread.
- From: SK (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sat Aug 7 01:19:03 EDT 1999
Bhasker:
I was just making a kiNdal Karthi. Please
have discussions on raga etc that are related to
this thread here. No problem about that!
A collection of GRamanathan songs have been uploaded here...
http://members.xoom.com/ppp_songs/gr.html
- From: karthi (@ 1cust140.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Aug 7 12:01:31 EDT 1999
SK, Thangaradham vandhadhu enna raagam theriyumaa ungaLukku...? Aaberi! (yaarap paathu yenna sollitteenga :))
- From: Suresh (@ abd12a38.ipt.aol.com)
on: Sat Aug 7 16:59:14 EDT 1999
Nanru
- From: ppb (@ 1cust45.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Aug 7 18:47:15 EDT 1999
what do you mean Suresh? G Ramanathan thread?
- From: karthi (@ 1cust45.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Aug 7 19:00:18 EDT 1999
SK, marandhe poyitten, unga new old songs page-kku, "putham pudhiya pazhasugaL"ndra title miga arumai sorry azhagu! (arumai-nna kadinamaana -appadinnu arthamaame thooya thamizhla, aruLarasan kovichukkap poraar!)
- From: SK (@ panorama2.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sat Aug 7 19:09:20 EDT 1999
Karthi:
puththam pudhiya pazhasugaL endru peyar
vaiththadhu en thambi Bones! arumaiyaana (azhagaana)
peyargaL soottuvadhil avan mannan!
thanga radham Abheri ragam endru num
iruvarukkum theriyum. adhaiththaan maththavanga
already sollittaangaLE! aanaa, Abheri-nna ennaNNu
namakku theriyumaa? adhudhaanga issue! :-))
adhu sari, PS paadiya paavai viLakku paadal
paththi kEttEnE? neenga oNNum sollalaiyE?
Suresh:
nanru endru oru vaarththaiyil edhaiyO
sollitteenga? What did you mean? Were you making
kiNdals on ppb's Abheri knowledge?
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ snfcb705-37.splitrock.net)
on: Sat Aug 7 21:25:55 EDT 1999
Karthi, Yennada thiruppi sothappare? It is Abhogi.Bhogam illaatha raaga :-)
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