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Day Dreams or Bombay dreams

Topic started by Arun (@ 195.92.194.13) on Tue Jul 2 21:08:36 EDT 2002.
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After all these hype bombay dreams floped. How sad is that?

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• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.195) on: Wed Jul 10 11:48:25 EDT 2002
  
  What a bad thread? In all my years of tfm posting this is the worst thread I have seen.
  
  To the people who so cleverly change the spelling to squeeze in profanities. You are not big because you were able to post those words or because you show us that you can use them.
  
  We all know those words. You are smaller because you showed much lesser restraint than us in using those words.
  
  Didnt you pause for a second to think of the moral responsibility that children maybe viewing this forum before you posted.
  
  Or is it because of the knowledge that " no one can find who i am where i am" .." here is a web page that allows me to post what I want without checking.. so why not misuse it"
  
  SO who is a coward. who is posting profanities because he knows he wont get caught. What shame. what bunch of nonsense. did any of you wise men ever talk about music once in this thread.
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Wed Jul 10 12:20:34 EDT 2002
  
  vaiyapuri, uthaman
  
  ennachu ungalukku? I have seen you in other threads too using bad language, insulting people and personally attacking their mom and all. Shame on you guys. Are you really satisfied and happy when people hate you? Please please stop it for god's sake.
  
  I think it's high time that newtfmpage admin does something about it.
  
  
• From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.45.161) on: Wed Jul 10 13:22:26 EDT 2002
  
  Hello X! I am not using profanity. People made personal attacks on me. Why did you guys leave out Dude and his other friends? Are you one of them?
  
  
• From: Azerty (@ 172.186.44.6) on: Wed Jul 10 16:28:14 EDT 2002
  
  Another review, not from me but from Chris Jones of BBC.
  
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  A R Rahman
  Bombay Dreams
  (Sony)
  
  Without being too elitist about it, when the name of Andrew Lloyd Webber crops up anywhere near a project it's a fairly safe bet that its going to be a crowd-pleasingly anodyne collection of saccharine-sweet tunes; i.e. not really too challenging. The man may have single-handedly saved the West End with his string of tourist trapping musical fripperies but hey, money isn't everything. If you caught the recent furore surrounding the premiere of Bombay Dreams you may have been fooled into thinking that this is ALW's project alone. So it comes as a pleasant surprise when it turns out that the music was, in fact, written by classically-trained musical polymath A R Rahman. Until you actually hear it however...
  
  Based on Meera Syal's book of the same name and with lyrics written by Don Black, Bombay Dreams seems hell-bent on transferring Mr Lloyd Webbers formula to the sphere of world music. Quite obviously, a soundtrack album devoid of the stunning dance routines and cod-Bollywood stage sets that convey the story is bound to be somewhat contextually adrift, but in this case the gap could be measured in light years. At least with Rodgers and Hammerstein or Leonard Bernstein the songs were strong enough to stand alone.
  
  Rahman's string arrangements are sumptuously Asiatic, to be sure, and the production fuses east with west in often seamlessly post-modern fashion. Breakbeats meet pounding drums. Sweeping string sections underpin bubbling synths and at times on songs such as "Ooh La La" (top title, by the way) the sensuous mix becomes almost exotic enough to fool the listener. Yet, this being a musical, these soundscapes cannot come without vocals. Bolted onto the sparkling music are performances that never seem to know to which continent they belong. Stage school karaoke clashes with bhangra and the results are not pretty. Maybe it's because they have to deliver lyrics that sometimes defy description. "Contradictions, city of extremes, anything is possible in Bombay dreams. Some live and die in debt, others making millions on the internet." No, really...
  
  Worst offender here is the single sung by star Preeya Kalidas, "Shakalaka Baby". In a shameless attempt to appeal to the supposed 30 second attention of under 25s a vaguely garage rhythm accompanies pearls of wisdom such as: "Saw your face and the damage was done, you weaved (sic) a spell that took me over. I found a bolt right out of the sun, I'd love to send it supernova". And so it goes.
  
  The real disappointment is that someone with as much talent as Rahman seemed unable to break the free of his producer's spell and produce something that really did translate the glamour of Bollywood onto a West End stage. In fact a vast amount of talent seems to have been wasted in giving us just another one for the tourists.
  
  Reviewer: Chris Jones
  
  A R Rahman
  Bombay Dreams
  (Sony)
  
  Without being too elitist about it, when the name of Andrew Lloyd Webber crops up anywhere near a project it's a fairly safe bet that its going to be a crowd-pleasingly anodyne collection of saccharine-sweet tunes; i.e. not really too challenging. The man may have single-handedly saved the West End with his string of tourist trapping musical fripperies but hey, money isn't everything. If you caught the recent furore surrounding the premiere of Bombay Dreams you may have been fooled into thinking that this is ALW's project alone. So it comes as a pleasant surprise when it turns out that the music was, in fact, written by classically-trained musical polymath A R Rahman. Until you actually hear it however...
  
  Based on Meera Syal's book of the same name and with lyrics written by Don Black, Bombay Dreams seems hell-bent on transferring Mr Lloyd Webbers formula to the sphere of world music. Quite obviously, a soundtrack album devoid of the stunning dance routines and cod-Bollywood stage sets that convey the story is bound to be somewhat contextually adrift, but in this case the gap could be measured in light years. At least with Rodgers and Hammerstein or Leonard Bernstein the songs were strong enough to stand alone.
  
  Rahman's string arrangements are sumptuously Asiatic, to be sure, and the production fuses east with west in often seamlessly post-modern fashion. Breakbeats meet pounding drums. Sweeping string sections underpin bubbling synths and at times on songs such as "Ooh La La" (top title, by the way) the sensuous mix becomes almost exotic enough to fool the listener. Yet, this being a musical, these soundscapes cannot come without vocals. Bolted onto the sparkling music are performances that never seem to know to which continent they belong. Stage school karaoke clashes with bhangra and the results are not pretty. Maybe it's because they have to deliver lyrics that sometimes defy description. "Contradictions, city of extremes, anything is possible in Bombay dreams. Some live and die in debt, others making millions on the internet." No, really...
  
  Worst offender here is the single sung by star Preeya Kalidas, "Shakalaka Baby". In a shameless attempt to appeal to the supposed 30 second attention of under 25s a vaguely garage rhythm accompanies pearls of wisdom such as: "Saw your face and the damage was done, you weaved (sic) a spell that took me over. I found a bolt right out of the sun, I'd love to send it supernova". And so it goes.
  
  The real disappointment is that someone with as much talent as Rahman seemed unable to break the free of his producer's spell and produce something that really did translate the glamour of Bollywood onto a West End stage. In fact a vast amount of talent seems to have been wasted in giving us just another one for the tourists.
  
  Reviewer: Chris Jones
  
  A R Rahman
  Bombay Dreams
  (Sony)
  
  Without being too elitist about it, when the name of Andrew Lloyd Webber crops up anywhere near a project it's a fairly safe bet that its going to be a crowd-pleasingly anodyne collection of saccharine-sweet tunes; i.e. not really too challenging. The man may have single-handedly saved the West End with his string of tourist trapping musical fripperies but hey, money isn't everything. If you caught the recent furore surrounding the premiere of Bombay Dreams you may have been fooled into thinking that this is ALW's project alone. So it comes as a pleasant surprise when it turns out that the music was, in fact, written by classically-trained musical polymath A R Rahman. Until you actually hear it however...
  
  Based on Meera Syal's book of the same name and with lyrics written by Don Black, Bombay Dreams seems hell-bent on transferring Mr Lloyd Webbers formula to the sphere of world music. Quite obviously, a soundtrack album devoid of the stunning dance routines and cod-Bollywood stage sets that convey the story is bound to be somewhat contextually adrift, but in this case the gap could be measured in light years. At least with Rodgers and Hammerstein or Leonard Bernstein the songs were strong enough to stand alone.
  
  Rahman's string arrangements are sumptuously Asiatic, to be sure, and the production fuses east with west in often seamlessly post-modern fashion. Breakbeats meet pounding drums. Sweeping string sections underpin bubbling synths and at times on songs such as "Ooh La La" (top title, by the way) the sensuous mix becomes almost exotic enough to fool the listener. Yet, this being a musical, these soundscapes cannot come without vocals. Bolted onto the sparkling music are performances that never seem to know to which continent they belong. Stage school karaoke clashes with bhangra and the results are not pretty. Maybe it's because they have to deliver lyrics that sometimes defy description. "Contradictions, city of extremes, anything is possible in Bombay dreams. Some live and die in debt, others making millions on the internet." No, really...
  
  Worst offender here is the single sung by star Preeya Kalidas, "Shakalaka Baby". In a shameless attempt to appeal to the supposed 30 second attention of under 25s a vaguely garage rhythm accompanies pearls of wisdom such as: "Saw your face and the damage was done, you weaved (sic) a spell that took me over. I found a bolt right out of the sun, I'd love to send it supernova". And so it goes.
  
  The real disappointment is that someone with as much talent as Rahman seemed unable to break the free of his producer's spell and produce something that really did translate the glamour of Bollywood onto a West End stage. In fact a vast amount of talent seems to have been wasted in giving us just another one for the tourists.
  
  Reviewer: Chris Jones
  
  internet link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/easy/reviews/arrahman_bombay.shtml#review
  
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  Vaiyapuri, Uthaman and others using bad language: violence calls violence, that can be by words also.
  
  Talking about who is the best IR or ARR is real a troll. In TFM forums, I've found a great amount of trolls. Is that meaning people have nothing to do except spending time on trolls ?
  
  
• From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.45.161) on: Wed Jul 10 17:53:10 EDT 2002
  
  It is a free forum. I have the right to criticize an MD. I take part in cricket forums. I take part in Hollywood movies forums. Everywhere i criticize something that doesn't deserve praise.
  The difference is in cricket forums and hollywood movies forums the criticisms were welcome. Only here it is not welcome. People talk only about nice things. smooth topics. As long as they don't personally attack me it is fine with me. If they attack me they will get it. For example Dude and one more guy (209.130...) spent half the time in abusing me than anything else. You can see two of them in almost all the threads in 50 different names. They get away because they just don't use one name to escape from criticism. If you think i am violent i need not be responding to your post at all.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Thu Jul 11 04:03:05 EDT 2002
  
  Uthaman:
  You have brought values to your birth. Continue.
  
  
• From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 194.54.238.10) on: Thu Jul 11 05:31:26 EDT 2002
  
  ATTENTION FRIENDS ::: AR RAHMAN HAS MADE A FOOL OF HIMSELF BY COMPOSING VERY ORDINARY SONGS FOR A GREAT PROJECT ,NOW INDIA'S DIGNITY IS AFFECTED COS THE WESTENERS ARE GONNA BRAND INDIAN COMPOSERS ARE LIKE ARR WHO IS A DUMBO IN MUSIC,AS A INDIAN CITIZEN I RECOMMEND THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT TO CANCEL ARR'S CITIZEN SHIP FOR BRINGING DISGRACE TO INDIA
  
  

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