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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Vj (@ 203.199.245.197) on: Thu Oct 31 04:58:23 EST 2002
  
  that might no... 'coz no MD is perfect. atleast in one point of time in their career, they'll be forced to copy or re-use another MD's song or they'll use it in their own will... or atleast they'll lift samples...i dont think this will ever stop. Kannaadi veetula irundhu kal eriyardhu maadhiridhaan. no MD in this world is perfect. so they wont accuse others of copying, period
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 203.199.245.197) on: Thu Oct 31 04:59:55 EST 2002
  
  oops.. 'that might no'='that might not'
  
  
• From: Shaalini (@ 210.187.170.217) on: Fri Nov 1 09:39:40 EST 2002
  
  i'm a girl from malaysia
  i'm finding hte lyric from run (kadhal pisase)
  
  
• From: ashok (@ 130.65.85.219) on: Thu Nov 7 11:04:58 EST 2002
  
  if you want lyrics ("run" and several other new movies, shaalini), check out subashworld.
  
  http://www.geocities.com/subashworld
  
  good site. the webmaster vijay does great work.
  
  
• From: arrfan (@ 24.44.133.72) on: Thu Nov 7 12:26:20 EST 2002
  
  try this link for some `UFO' inspired music. Hopefully this is reverse copied..
  
  http://www.flowgo.com/flowgo2_view.cfm?page_id=32953
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Nov 7 21:41:53 EST 2002
  
  Obvious reverse lift. In fact the creator seems to have just cut 'n pasted a portion from ARR's Bombay number.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Nov 7 21:44:34 EST 2002
  
  Have added the originals of Five Star's 'Thiru thiruda' and Bhagavathy's 'Allu allu'.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: spotter (@ 64.230.1.208) on: Thu Nov 7 23:33:25 EST 2002
  
  A case of "chipping off the old block":)
  
  The song "theendi theendi" from Bala sounds suspiciously similar to the "Rim Jim Rim Jim" number from IR's hindi film Mahadev. Listen to the clip at http://www.raajangahm.com/otherlang.html#HIN
  
  or is it just me?
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Nov 7 23:44:44 EST 2002
  
  KarthiK S
  
  "reverse lift" why should be the word "reverse" there?
  
  Btw, when I heard the song "aLLu aLLu" it very much sounded like "aellaarumae thiruda(i)ngadhaan" from Naan Sigappu Manidhan?. Title song in that movie.
  
  Any idea about that?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Nov 8 00:28:00 EST 2002
  
  spotter:
  
  You are BANG ON target. Its a direct lift! Even if is his own dad's composition, passing it off as his own is shameful...unless of course, if there's some credit to IR in the CDs/Tapes of Bala!
  
  This is an incredible find!!!!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Nov 8 00:45:35 EST 2002
  
  Have added the Bala lift in my site today, as well!
  
  Thanks 'spotter'.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: spotter (@ 64.230.2.147) on: Fri Nov 8 07:21:56 EST 2002
  
  Karthik,
  
  Glad to do my part:) Big fan of your efforts....keep up the good work!
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197) on: Fri Nov 8 14:47:30 EST 2002
  
  Good find karthik and spotter... just curious whether Rim Jim rim jim might have been made into tamil already... 'Silu silu silu vena siragugal pani vizhum kaalam' in a pandiyarajan movie 'oorai therinjikitten' sounds more like Rim Jim ... Any thoughts guys?
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Fri Nov 8 20:41:18 EST 2002
  
  The tune for the starting phrase 'engirundhu vandhAyadA' from the song 'engirundhu vandhAyadA' - 5* resembles 'oruthi maganAi pirandhu'.
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.83.250) on: Mon Nov 11 04:19:29 EST 2002
  
  kumudam and tamilcinema.com hv reported that the whole album 'Bagavathy' is straight lifted from a Telugu movie called 'Jayam'.. can any1 confirm?
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Mon Nov 11 11:54:34 EST 2002
  
  Yesterday I was watching a great comedy film
  called 'What About Bob'(1991)starring Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss as the film went on I got a strange feeling of having seen this movie already,then it struck me that Kamals Tenali is a straight copy of this film.
  Scene by scene copy except in Tenali they have this srilanktamil charachter and meena charachter towards the last scene.
  
  can someone list the other such copied movies
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197) on: Mon Nov 11 13:08:01 EST 2002
  
  kuruvi - most of kamal's movies are inspired from english movies...
  
  Tenali -what about bob
  magalir mattum - 9 to 5
  aavai sanmugi - mrs doubtfire and tootsie
  panchathandiram - few good things...
  
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.95.59.197) on: Mon Nov 11 13:08:40 EST 2002
  
  Nammavar was copied from 'The principal'...
  
  
• From: DJ RON (@ 24.42.58.243) on: Mon Nov 11 13:19:44 EST 2002
  
  12B = Sliding Doors (*stright lift)
  
  
• From: DJ RON (@ 24.42.58.243) on: Mon Nov 11 13:20:35 EST 2002
  
  badri = kick boxer
  double jeporti = that movie sarathkumar stars in!
  
  
• From: DJ RON (@ 24.42.58.243) on: Mon Nov 11 13:22:29 EST 2002
  
  don't blame kamal THIRU. most of KS Ravikumars films are 95 % lift from western films. even latest film "Villan" is a copy too can't remember the name of the english film.
  
  Thosh = Double Jepordy
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Mon Nov 11 13:25:52 EST 2002
  
  Thanks kiru
  But what is the line/diff between inspiration and copy esp a movie like this literally scene by scene lift?
  BTW Nammavar is more of 'To Sir with Love' isnt it?
  Read in TOI that Babbi Lahari is suing someone rapper in US for copying his music ?!!
  just wondering what those screenwriters will do if they found out their movies are copied?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ ) on: Tue Nov 19 04:02:30 EST 2002
  
  Wondering if anybody has a Tape/CD of Bala which has a credit to IR for the song 'Theendi theendi'! If so, could someone please post the scanned version of the cover?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Nov 19 04:03:33 EST 2002
  
  BTW, the latest Vikatan has featured my i2fs website...that owes a hell of a lot to this thread.
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/av/2002/nov/24112002/av0905.shtml
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue Nov 19 05:20:29 EST 2002
  
  Karthik:
  You made it.
  
  Your website's mention in Vikatan is a great thing to the service that you do. I often quote your website in my home and in my friends circle to prove whether one sone is a lift or not.
  
  See, in comming days your site will bear huge number of clicks from all corners. Good Luck.
  
  BTW, I presume that you would have gone thru the NDTV site's discussion of best MD. Some one has alleged that Airtel music is a lift. Can you confirm that.?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Nov 19 06:19:44 EST 2002
  
  Not a lift. That message (by Subramanian) is referring to a interlude in Sting's song, which Sting has taken from Sergei Prokofiev's 'Lieutenant Kijé suite' (central motif in the 2nd movement, Romance, to be precise). Sting has credited the same in the album sleeve too.
  
  Even though, its initial bars sound somewhat similar to the airtel tune, its too short to call it a copy. RDB and his dad SDB have used it in Hindi...RDB as the opening tune of a song and SDB as a interlude. Check out my site's RDB page - 25th entry...you could listen to the original too there!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Wed Nov 20 06:05:02 EST 2002
  
  I feel the opening 2 lines of Mounam Pesiyadhe's 'Ei Nanbane' sound exactly like Vengaboys' song 'Boom boom boom' first 2 lines. Almost ditto, including the twist in tune etc.!
  
  Isnt it?
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Fri Nov 22 12:43:41 EST 2002
  
  The pallavi of the song "Kaattula" from solla marandha kadhai is a replica of IR's own tune that the second charanam of "Thatharam" from the malayalam movie Guru was set to. Now, this cannot be considered a copy. This is just a rehash of his own tune - just found it interesting and thought I'd share with you guys!
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Fri Nov 22 13:52:26 EST 2002
  
  S Karthik good job
  But I think Vikatan messed up one song
  Instead of saying 'Chittu kuruvi Vetkapadu'
  they have pointed to wrong and great original no of IR 'chittu ku chella chittuku' that shows their knowledge on music or atleast they must be weak in hearing :)
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Fri Nov 22 13:54:19 EST 2002
  
  huhoh OOPs
  S Karthik I take back my previous message
  Vikatan group is correct sorry
  
  
• From: Ahi (@ 203.96.111.237) on: Fri Nov 22 17:19:28 EST 2002
  
  The song in movie "Maran", "kannukul viralai" (or something along those lines) is an exact replica of a hindhi song "Bohathu pyar".
  
  The music for Maran is by Deva ( need I say more)
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Fri Nov 22 19:18:11 EST 2002
  
  Maran is by Deva's brothers ( sabesh & murali).
  
  
• From: nojalra (@ 203.199.245.85) on: Sat Nov 23 11:40:31 EST 2002
  
  kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Fri Nov 22 13:52:26 EST 2002
  S Karthik good job
  But I think Vikatan messed up one song
  Instead of saying 'Chittu kuruvi Vetkapadu'
  they have pointed to wrong and great original no of IR 'chittu ku chella chittuku' that shows their knowledge on music or atleast they must be weak in hearing :)
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  Chittukku chella chittukku [Film: Nallavanukku Nallavan]
  Possibly inspired by Rimsky-Korsakov's 'The Tale Of The Kalendar Prince', from his 1888 work by name 'Scheherazade'.
  Listen to Chittukku chella chittukku | Tale of Kalendar Prince
  [i2fs] comments: Given Ilayaraja's love for Western Classical music, it sounds plausible...also taking into account his past inspirations from the likes of Antonin Dvorak! Nikolai Andreevich Rimsky-Korsakov is one of the leading 19th century Russian nationalist composers. 'Scheherazade' was written almost towards the end of Rimsky's career and life...as he put it himself in his memoirs, it "closes a period of my work, at the end of which my orchestration had attained a considerable degree of virtuosity and warm sonority"
  
  
  KURUVI KINDLY CHECK THE FACTS BEFORE ACCUSING SOMEONE.
  VIKATAN IS RIGHT
  
  
• From: DJ (@ 68.63.108.146) on: Sat Nov 23 11:49:48 EST 2002
  
  >>From: kuruvi (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Fri Nov 22 13:54:19 EST 2002
  
  
  huhoh OOPs
  S Karthik I take back my previous message
  Vikatan group is correct sorry
  
  KURUVI KINDLY CHECK THE FACTS BEFORE ACCUSING SOMEONE.
  VIKATAN IS RIGHT >>>>
  
  nojalra,
  better u read the next posting before accusing kuruvi or someone...
  
  

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