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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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1   2   3   4   5   6   7  8   9  10  11  12
S  R1  R2  R3  G3  M1  M2  P  D1  D2  D3  N3
       G1  G2                     N1  N2

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• From: IR (@ 4.64.207.80) on: Tue Jul 2 08:03:25 EDT 2002
  
  SIndhuja, Shivashakti is a beautiful raga - in the family of sriranjani, aabohi, varamu. It is a raga of recent origin and conceived by GNB. Varamu is known to have existed during Thyagarajar times.
  
  GNB has also composed the popular Sri chakra raja nilaye Shivashakti... in this raga.
  
  Notes: Sa ga2 ma1 dha2 sa
  Sa ni2 dha2 ma1 ga2 sa
  
  I am sure you could find Sri chakararaja by Sudha R or MLV in Music INdia Online.
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.9) on: Tue Jul 2 10:36:51 EDT 2002
  
  yippiee!!!I got it right!
  Tnx,IR.
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Tue Jul 2 15:45:47 EDT 2002
  
  raga of the song of the day.
  chinna thaayavaL thandha raasavae - charukesi.
  another charukesi song
  annan oru kovil endraal thangai oru deepamandro
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Tue Jul 2 16:39:58 EDT 2002
  
  Vidhya:
  
  chinna thaayavaL = kaapi
  aNNan oru kOvil endraal = Gowri manohari
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Tue Jul 2 17:15:18 EDT 2002
  
  MS: : "song of the day" pattula ni2-illiyaa. Ni3 varradhaa enna?
  
  For the latter, may be we are looking at sruthi bedham.
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Tue Jul 2 17:16:12 EDT 2002
  
  26 | chArukeshi | S R2 G3 M1 P D1 N2 S | S N2 D1 P M1 G3 R2 S
  
  HindhusthAni kApi |22| S R2 M1 P N3 S | S N2 D2 N2 P M1 G2 R2 S
  
  
• From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Wed Jul 3 01:29:48 EDT 2002
  
  IMHO,chinna thaayavaL : Pallavi has more touches of Kaapi, while the Charanam has more of Charukesi.
  
  experts pls confirm.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 03:13:10 EDT 2002
  
  raga of song of the day
  Mannil intha kaathal anri-keeravani
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 10:58:39 EDT 2002
  
  Guys,
  Can neone let me know what raga is Hamsanadham's Ma1 counterpart?
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.39) on: Wed Jul 3 11:01:55 EDT 2002
  
  This week's rudraveeNai-rAgam-senjurutti.This rAgam is supposed to attract the cows.
  Scene-the man plays this rAgam on his veeNai and all the cattle come running towards him,surround him and get lost in the music...
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 11:03:57 EDT 2002
  
  Then most of Ramarajan songs must be in senjurutti;-)
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ ) on: Wed Jul 3 11:05:30 EDT 2002
  
  hehehe :-)
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.39) on: Wed Jul 3 11:08:32 EDT 2002
  
  Ram,the closest I can think of is Hindustani's Shuddh sArang,but it has both Ma's.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 11:22:56 EDT 2002
  
  What raga is "Madathile Kanni madathile" in veera...it sounds like Thilang for me...a friend of mine says it is Hamsanadham's Ma1 counterpart
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.24) on: Wed Jul 3 11:38:20 EDT 2002
  
  Hey Ram!I found it in S.Bhagyalekshmi's book-it's NiramalAngi.
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.24) on: Wed Jul 3 11:41:33 EDT 2002
  
  This is what she has to say abt. the rAgam-{{This is a modern rAgam invented by R.Srinivasan.A modification of the MadhymAvati rAgam.An audava audava rAgam derived from ShankarAbharaNam.Ga and Dha r varjya swarAs in both Aro and ava.}}
  
  So this ragam is the Ma variant of hamsanadam and Ni variant of Madhyamavati.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 11:47:01 EDT 2002
  
  Doe Madathile follow this Ragam
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.24) on: Wed Jul 3 11:49:49 EDT 2002
  
  Ram,not able to listen to that song-some prob.....
  Will listen to it sometime later...
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.24) on: Wed Jul 3 11:50:54 EDT 2002
  
  I meant-some tech. prob.,so not able to play that track.(Both Dhool and MIOL)
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.24) on: Wed Jul 3 11:51:59 EDT 2002
  
  hey,just noticed-that was a typo-it's NirmalAngi and not as spelt above.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Wed Jul 3 11:58:02 EDT 2002
  
  Sindhu,
  Try Raaga
  
  
• From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.245.232) on: Wed Jul 3 12:27:20 EDT 2002
  
  raja'voda natai/chalanatai songs ellame conpeesan dhaan :-)
  
  [Exception of 'Pattu Poo Poo' from Veera]
  
  
• From: R.S.Balaji (@ 202.58.176.129) on: Wed Jul 3 23:46:03 EDT 2002
  
  Hey hi all.....this is very interesting and informative thread happening here....i was searching for the name Nirmalangi all over the net....and finally found it here....anyways after that i found another informative page ...just wondering if any one was interested :
  http://www.rit.edu/~pnveme/raga/Raga_Sankarabharanam.html
  
  
• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Thu Jul 4 07:08:16 EDT 2002
  
  Yesterday's Rudra veeNai episode had senjurutti.
  Two cowherd boys lose control of the cows, which
  are running all over the place. Our veenai man
  who comes that side sits down, plays a tune in
  senjurutti and all the cows come peacefully
  towards him and sit down...
  
  senjurutti:
  aavinangaLai mayakki kattuppaduththi Oridaththil
  niRka seyyum rAgam.
  
  I have been recording these epsisodes in video as
  promised. The serial is about a mysterious sakthimaan musician (nicely played by YG Mahendra)
  who goes in search of a mysterious rudra veenai.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.204) on: Thu Jul 4 07:43:42 EDT 2002
  
  Thanx a lot sK
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ 130.203.216.54) on: Thu Jul 4 23:24:31 EDT 2002
  
  Raga: Jhinjhoti
  Mere mehboob tujhe meri muhabbat ki kasam - Mere Mehboob
  Jaun kahan bataaye dil - Chhoti Bahen
  Tum mujhe yun bhula na pao ge - Pagla Kahin Ka
  Teri ankhoke siva duniyamen - Chirag
  Mose chal kiye jaye hai re hai hai dekho saiyan beiman - Guide
  Ja ja re ja, balmava - Basant Bahar
  Koi hamdam na raha, koi sahara na raha - Jhumroo
  Ghungharoo ki tarah, bajata hi raha hoon main - Chor Machaaye Shor
  Chhup gaya koi re durase pukarake - Champakali
  
  
  
• From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.216.54) on: Thu Jul 4 23:25:10 EDT 2002
  
  Is Senchuruti same as Raag Jhinjhoti?
  Mere mehboob tujhe meri muhabbat ki kasam - Mere Mehboob
  Jaun kahan bataaye dil - Chhoti Bahen
  Tum mujhe yun bhula na pao ge - Pagla Kahin Ka
  Teri ankhoke siva duniyamen - Chirag
  Mose chal kiye jaye hai re hai hai dekho saiyan beiman - Guide
  Ja ja re ja, balmava - Basant Bahar
  Koi hamdam na raha, koi sahara na raha - Jhumroo
  Ghungharoo ki tarah, bajata hi raha hoon main - Chor Machaaye Shor
  Chhup gaya koi re durase pukarake - Champakali
  
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.7) on: Thu Jul 4 23:42:05 EDT 2002
  
  Ram, MS and others:
  
  A friend of mine says that the 'usage of ragas
  to form moods' as mentioned by the Rudra Veena
  guys for SunadhaVinodhini and senjurutti are
  not mentioned or explained anywhere in the classical
  music literature.. and that they could be downright
  wrong. I wonder whether someone could shed some
  light on this.
  
  
• From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.126) on: Thu Jul 4 23:50:43 EDT 2002
  
  Also Re: Senjuruti, does "Yen veetu thotathil poo yellam ketru paar" sound similar to Nada vindu kaladi namo nama to anyone else?
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Fri Jul 5 00:32:24 EDT 2002
  
  SK:
  
  that is interesting ! I myself do not have any first hand info on this subject. SL and IR may be the right persons to elaborate.
  
  
• From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.126) on: Fri Jul 5 11:33:10 EDT 2002
  
  I was discussing Jinjhoti and Senchurutti with Ram after reading that they were similar at:
  
  http://www.geocities.com/krishna_kunchith/rmic/rmic.1992.03.04.html
  
  and Ni (among other things) are different. Then I stopped to read the caveat at the beginning of the webpage:
  
  "The following table is from the book `rAga pravAham' by d.pattammAL and m.n.dhaNdapANe. It is incomplete (almost necessarily so) and does not (and cannot) account for the nuances of the rAgas in the karNAtaka and hendhusthAne systems. Take it with a pinch of salt." :)
  
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Fri Jul 5 11:37:40 EDT 2002
  
  Sundar: Yes !
  They are the same.
  http://www.funet.fi/pub/archive/rec.music.indian.classical/volume96/Dec/961228.02.gz
  says senjurutti is jhinjoti.
  
  More on the raagam...
  The following page says jhinjoti has a carnatic quivalent jinjuti or janjuti (a janyam of harikhamboji-28)
  http://www.geocities.com/spicmacaycu/raga.html
  
  It lists Navroj too as an equivalent, but it is a janyam of 29, ShankarabharaNam and has a Ni3.
  - Navroj may not be the equivalent.
  
  http://www.carnatic.com/carnatic/ragalist.htm
  lists
  janjUti |28| S R2 G3 M1 P D2 N2 | N2D2PM1G3R2SN2.D2.P.D2.S
  
  navaroj |29| P D2 N3 S R2 G3 M1 P | M1 G3 R2 S N3 D2 P
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114) on: Fri Jul 5 11:39:35 EDT 2002
  
  SK: Senjurutti has been mentioned n discussed.
  rec music india classical discussion link.
  http://www.funet.fi/pub/archive/rec.music.indian.classical/volume96/Dec/961228.02.gz
  
  
• From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.126) on: Fri Jul 5 11:49:27 EDT 2002
  
  Interesting reading, Vidhya - Thanks. Ram finds some of the Hindi songs listed earlier to be more along the lines of "Amaydhiyana Nadhiyinile Odam" ... seemed like that to me also.
  
  

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