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who is a better composer - Annu Mallik or IR?

Topic started by indian music lover (@ 203.197.82.176) on Sat Feb 23 12:47:57 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Annu and IR are both great composers - one ranks Olympian in HFM and the other in TFM. Who do u think has achieved more - annu or IR? I think Annu wins easily
Why?

1)Listen to Annu's pathos-filled songs. Thye touch your heart and you can sense that grief or you can get truly moved. That does not happen in case of IRs songs. Listen to Border songs, u get truly moved.

2)IR has not not been as original as Annu. Annu has tried different innovations more frequently as IR.

3)IR has often copied a lot, whereas Annu has worked on his tunes with devotion.

Therefore Annu wins, but of course the margin is small. What do u think?

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• From: Thamarai (@ 203.199.220.189) on: Mon Feb 25 23:00:40 EST 2002
  
  Hey...
  
  please don't insult IR by starting a thread like this..:-((
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Feb 25 23:57:43 EST 2002
  
  :-) Thamarai, its no use trying to say that. Morons will be morons. Thats what i have come to know after being in this DF for quite a long time now. The best policy is "IGNORE" :-)
  
  :-))"WHYNOT"..don't pls bring in "CAPRICORNS" into this thread...what if you irk some hardcore ones that roam in these forums ;-)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Feb 26 00:04:35 EST 2002
  
  :-)ROTFL.."ayya saami, aala vidunga...naan varala intha vilayaatukku" :-))...ungalukku konjam kurumbu jaasthi dhaan :-)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Tue Feb 26 00:14:35 EST 2002
  
  
  ...What do u think?...
  
  I think this is funny.
  :-)))
  Wud i love to see HCIRFs' reaction to this.
  
  
  :-))) good one WhyNot...
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Feb 26 00:57:41 EST 2002
  
  kupps, neenga andha reply'la ennatha kanddengalo theriyala..edhukku adhai poi "good one"nu sollreenga ? :-)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 26 05:48:32 EST 2002
  
  Thanks kupps.
  For ur sweet and innocent compliment. :-)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Feb 26 06:41:16 EST 2002
  
  :-(
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.61.3) on: Tue Feb 26 08:03:28 EST 2002
  
  .."ayya saami, aala vidunga...naan varala intha vilayaatukku" :-))...ungalukku konjam kurumbu jaasthi dhaan :-)
  
  kurumbu illaatta ungalidam ellam peru poda mudiyumaa saami? :)
  
  
• From: a.a (@ 203.199.248.38) on: Tue Feb 26 12:38:56 EST 2002
  
  IR is konjam,MSV konjamKVM,konjamSALILCHOWDRY kalandha kalavai....Anumallik is replica of R.D.BURMAN....Iruvar styleum different and one can not compare....Both are above average M.DS
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Tue Feb 26 13:50:25 EST 2002
  
  twilight_zone,
  
  I think Kupps was kindal adichufying WhyNot there. I too have felt like doing that from time to time.
  
  Some of you might have encountered movie fans who start laughing as soon as they see Kaundamani on the screen. The moment they see him (he doesn't even have to open his mouth) they start laughing.
  "he he, Kaundamani, he he.."
  
  WhyNot is like that. The moment she sees a thread or a comment that bashes IR she starts her jalra. She doesn't even have to read it fully. If it bashes IR or IR fans it must be funny. :)
  
  
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Tue Feb 26 13:50:32 EST 2002
  
  twilight_zone,
  
  I think Kupps was kindal adichufying WhyNot there. I too have felt like doing that from time to time.
  
  Some of you might have encountered movie fans who start laughing as soon as they see Kaundamani on the screen. The moment they see him (he doesn't even have to open his mouth) they start laughing.
  "he he, Kaundamani, he he.."
  
  WhyNot is like that. The moment she sees a thread or a comment that bashes IR she starts her jalra! She doesn't even have to read it fully. If it bashes IR or IR fans it must be funny. :)
  
  
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Tue Feb 26 20:08:20 EST 2002
  
  ...The moment she sees a thread or a comment that bashes IR she starts her jalra...
  there have been plenty of threads eg IR is scrap, where i did not make any comments.
  and read what fully? if my post is the first one, am i sposed to see the future posts with psychic eyes and read them in advance?
  
  And i think it's HCIRFs who need to "kindal adichufying" my posts the moment they say it's by a certain WhyNot. They normally never get the point, apply double standards, practice moral superiority (as if) and misinterpret and jump to conclusions.
  
  btw, u r right abt something. i dont find senthil & kaundamani tat funny. but the moment i see vivek's face i start laughing, cos he looks so funny (or shudn't i be admitting this now?). :-)
  
  ...I too have felt like doing that from time to time...
  but i spose u normally dont find the guts to. :-)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Feb 26 23:34:07 EST 2002
  
  dear whynot :-)
  
  "HCIRFs normally never get the point, apply double standards, practice moral superiority (as if) and misinterpret and jump to conclusions."
  
  How do u justify such a gross & generalistic statement? We know brats & mishief mongers exist in both IR & ARR camps...stop this "generalization" campaign of yours, will you :-). Thanks. [ You repeatedly pass such generalizing posts on IR fans, in umpteen threads, day in & day out, which might be unwarranted & uncalled for ]. IMHO.
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Feb 26 23:36:33 EST 2002
  
  it shud read "mischief mongers" & not "mishief mongers"...sorry for the typo guys :-)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Wed Feb 27 00:35:36 EST 2002
  
  shift+refresh(or shift+reload) is not working in my browser. no post after the one on Tue Feb 26 23:36:33 EST 2002 is shown in my browser. i know that there will be atleast one and hence many ones after that :-)
  
  
  
  
• From: aVr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Feb 27 03:27:08 EST 2002
  
  Guys, this is not the first time an absurd comparison is being made in this thread. A few months back a similar comparison was made - only there singers like Sharada, Runa Laila, Chandrani Mukherjee and Hemlata (either average or else absolutely pathetic singers) were being compared to Lata and Asha.
  
  So I guess, this kind of a comparison is not really a surprise, eh? :-)
  
  
• From: din (@ 62.100.201.103) on: Wed Feb 27 04:43:13 EST 2002
  
  guess the sucker is deaf
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Wed Feb 27 05:13:48 EST 2002
  
  ....How do u justify such a gross & generalistic statement?...
  twilight_zone, how wud u justify the zillion gross & generalistic statements made by HCIRFs on ME day in and day out in various threads. I'm not gonna copy and paste those statements. But if u go back to those threads where I made these statements that you claim, and read the preceding posts..usually by the likes of yaaro, tigger, etc etc, then you'll get an answer on who's generalising about who.
  btw, most of my generalisations are not about IR Fans in general, but about HCIRFs.
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Wed Feb 27 05:50:05 EST 2002
  
  whynot,
  
  suggestion: be a detached oberver :-))) [lighter vein] :-)
  
  
• From: twilight_zone (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Wed Feb 27 05:50:17 EST 2002
  
  whynot,
  
  suggestion: be a detached observer :-))) [lighter vein] :-)
  
  
• From: HCIRF (@ 202.9.180.253) on: Wed Feb 27 05:58:13 EST 2002
  
  MESAGE TO ALL HCIRF and Arr fans !!!!!!:
  
  
  Guys remember when ir fans compared ir to arr?????
  
  i used to think why compare a rat(ir) with a lion(arr)
  i found the reason , so that ir satus can???? be increased.
  But finally IR has been rested on to the right place, by being copmpared to ANU Malik( The all time copy cat)
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
  
  Dosnt this mean ir is as sh$t as anu????????
  
  Kudos to"indian music lover" for bringing this point into perspective.,!!!!!!!!
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Wed Feb 27 13:40:11 EST 2002
  
  ..but the moment i see vivek's face i start laughing, cos he looks so funny (or shudn't i be admitting this now?). :-)
  
  Now that's surprising. I thought Vivek is quite decent looking. Only his dialogues are funny. I know ARR fans are quite juvenile, but you must be like, preteens :) (just kidding!)
  
  ...I too have felt like doing that from time to time... but i spose u normally dont find the guts to. :-)...
  
  plain chivalry my friend, chivalry. :)
  
  
• From: Sathyamoorthy (@ 195.229.241.243) on: Wed Feb 27 14:29:27 EST 2002
  
  Anu Malik.. What is that?
  
  
• From: Sathyamoorthy (@ 195.229.241.243) on: Wed Feb 27 14:30:13 EST 2002
  
  Anu Malik.. Who is that?
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Wed Feb 27 18:02:51 EST 2002
  
  ...I know ARR fans are quite juvenile...
  wasn't someone talking abt gross generalisations?
  
  ...but you must be like, preteens...
  preteens??? and i spose u must be getting retiree pension now. send my regards to ur perans and pethis.
  
  ...I thought Vivek is quite decent looking...
  then u haven't seen him in his variety of 'get-ups'. (eg. lovely)
  
  ...plain chivalry my friend, chivalry...
  yeah right. i believe u.
  but good excuse i mus say. :-)
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Feb 27 23:45:29 EST 2002
  
  tigger - if u are talking all the time about generalizations, then u should stop calling ARR fans as juvenile. I myself am deeply in love with scores of Ilayaraja songs and he is indeed one of the greatest music maestroes. But many of ARRs songs are excellent too...whether ARR will come upto IRs level...that only time will tell, but to deny ARRs greatness and neglect all his fantastic achievements is kinda puerile.
  
  Anyway, I don't know how ARR comes into a ridiculous AM-IR fight. And why isnt the admin closing this thread?
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Thu Feb 28 08:55:49 EST 2002
  
  actually the first thread I started long time back(brand new topic...) might have had generalizations, but I dont think I ever indulged in generalizations or even attacked ARR after that. OTOH people like WhyNot have been making attacks on IR and his fans all the time, and when confronted, they claim it's an attack only on his hard-core fans.
  
  This time I decided to make a general statement because I decided to come down to their level.
  "if you cant beat them, then join them.."
  
  
• From: tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on: Thu Feb 28 09:26:22 EST 2002
  
  WhyNot, one more thing. a fan is a fan - hardcore or otherwise. So if you insult his idol he/she will be offended. So dont try to lessen your guilt by saying that you attacked only HCIRFs.
  
  BTW I have seen Lovely, and yes, in this movie Vivek's walk (The Al Gates walk!) was funny, but in most of his other movies it's his one-liners that are really funny, not his get-up.
  
  

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