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Mass Appeal

Topic started by dishkyoom (@ 160.81.7.18) on Wed Aug 16 18:56:13 EDT 2000.
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When it comes to "Mass-Appeal" in current TFM, I think this is how the rating goes.
1. ARR
2. Deva
3. IR
4. Other MDs

What r ur opinions?

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Responses:

• Old responses
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Fri May 3 09:18:11 EDT 2002
  
  Common Friend,
  
  1. JS is NOT yet released yet (may be this week it was released, But defenitely not during tamilp puththaaNdu)
  
  2. I agree that YSR has a long way to go, I feel the same way about Bharadwaj too, When Karthik said Bharadwaj is attracting mass, I was upset 'coz he (I feel intentionally) left YSR's name ... (Pls. Don't quote Gemini - Except 'Oh podu', NO OTHER song from that album is HIT)
  
  3. I do NOT believe Karthik's opinion was unbiased - may be for ARR fans it will look like that
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri May 3 09:18:35 EDT 2002
  
  "But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it?"
  Yes it is. And that is what I am talking about. You can argue how important & crucial mass appeal is. And u can also argue whether a no1 MD can be considered a has-been just bcos a few of his recent albums were not rated no1 in the mass appeal race.
  
  "When Karthik S says its balanced and unbiased. When Kupps says..."
  When WhyNot says the above, it's her own humble opinion which she is entitled to.
  :-)
  
  A quiz for the Vayitherichals here:
  which is the latest Album by ARR to be released?
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Fri May 3 09:21:40 EDT 2002
  
  NagaS Jr. Sr. indeed got released. I watched it in madras in udhayam complex. A decent OK movie (good story but not a good screenplay imho). As usual, I listened to Jr.Sr. songs only at the movie. Two songs were good. I don't know why, but i cud not recollect the songs. Though I feel two songs were good.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Fri May 3 09:38:15 EDT 2002
  
  
  "But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it?"
  Yes it is. And that is what I am talking about. You can argue how important & crucial mass appeal is. And u can also argue whether a no1 MD can be considered a has-been just bcos a few of his recent albums were not rated no1 in the mass appeal race.
  
  aah...again back to square 1? Let me make myself clear. As I posted in the other thread. "ARR's popularity has NOT gone down just because of not having that-much(u have defined it in your point 3) listened-to songs." I meant it to be that I'm not for saying that ARR is no more #1. The discussion was all about whether Kaasi and Azhagi were having mass appeal or not. I said they have, thats it. I also said you also belong to the clan whom you blame, because, while arguing with yaaro you have said/implied that Kaasi and Azhagi didn't have mass appeal. But infact they have as i quoted. Its simple. Unnecessarily you are directing your spades and arrows towards me. I don't have to argue on the point with the same thought as i believe.
  
  But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it?
  
  This I typed to convey a different meaning than what you picked. Probably a smily would have done a better job there.
  
  If still I'm not clear. Just brush off the postings of mine and keep proceeding in your own way.
  
  Sorry, I didn't have a younger brother nor did I teach him ABC, coz i myself is an illterate.
  
  BYE
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri May 3 09:47:00 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps,
  
  1.Sabesan said:
  
  "but of late i see ARRs fans doing the same..... these are the same person who kept on saying "accept the fact", and they are not able to accept the fact that some of ARR's recent albumns did not reach the mass...."
  
  2.I replied to him...
  "maybe u shud accept the fact that reaching the masses is not the most important thing for a musician"
  
  3. You (Kupps) responded to MY reply to Sabesan:
  
  "maybe u shud accept the fact that reaching the masses is not the most important thing for a musician
  
  But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it?"
  
  4. And I explained to you my reason for giving Sabesan that reply:
  
  ""But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it?"
  Yes it is. And that is what I am talking about. You can argue how important & crucial mass appeal is. And u can also argue whether a no1 MD can be considered a has-been just bcos a few of his recent albums were not rated no1 in the mass appeal race."
  
  5. Now you (kupps) tell me:
  
  "aah...again back to square 1? Let me make myself clear. As I posted in the other thread. "ARR's..."
  
  If u didnt want this confusion you cud have either
  
  I) refrained from commenting in my replies to other posters
  
  OR
  
  II) be prepared to discuss what the other posters were saying which prompted me to make that post which u responded to.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Fri May 3 09:58:09 EDT 2002
  
  aiyayoo...kadavuLae...
  
  WhyNot? What happened to you? Don't take that line But this thread/discussion is about Mass Appeal, isn't it? Seriously. That was meant to be a just like that statement and that is why I said probably a smily wud have done better. That back to square 1 was not for that line at all. I was switching back and forth to this thread and the Why ARR's BGM is bad thread. Since you replied to my posts in both places. I thought you were also in the same mode as I am. And while replying to my "that line" you said that And u can also argue whether a no1 MD can be considered a has-been just bcos a few of his recent albums were not rated no1 in the mass appeal race." In the other thread just b4 posting here I had said something aah...now you agree that im saying that Kaasi and Azhagi have mass appeal and not IR is having Mass appeal. After that you posted some message(i guess so). So i thought you got my point. But after a few minutes, here to reply to "that line" of mine, you said And u can also argue whether a no1 MD can be considered ..... And hence I said back to square 1. QED. That is why I said you are targetting a wrong person to fight with :-)
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Fri May 3 10:00:35 EDT 2002
  
  hmmm.... sometime back everyone kept saying "look at the sales of ARR's - has any of IR's albums sold like that"..... now that the sales is little down (hmm.... adhaivadhu othukaraangalaaa, adhuvum ellai), they come back saying "look at the quality"..... well, let me sit back and wait what they have to say for future.....
  
  and for your info, and all others, i used the word "has been", cause someone used that for IR..... hey, if after giving a good hit (both musically and commercially) in Kaasi and Azhagi, if someone dare to say "HAS BEEN", then i will say that ARR is also a "HAS BEEN".....
  
  and don't talk about FUTURE albums...... there used to be a saying (hmm..... gnabagaam vara maataengudhaey) - something like "dont hatch the hen while the egg is laid" or something like that..... can someone tell me that pls..... its like that.... iam not saying ARR is going to come out with a "ok" kind of album or a "bad" one..... all iam saying is, let the album come, then lets decide......
  
  and if u r saying "hey he has more albums", so does IR..... so why did someone say a "HAS BEEN".....
  
  and the whole thing about "NUMBER ONE" - i don't think there is a number one..... today a "Oh Podu" was number one and yesterday a "maalaay maalaay" was a number one...... the *UGLY* truth.....
  
  whyNot, sorry to say this, but, thank God, i did not have a ELDER SISTER like you to explain ABC to me :-).....
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Fri May 3 10:02:52 EDT 2002
  
  A vazhippokkan was just like going and saw two people fighting furiously and in that one was slipping. He just told that person "watch-out, bcos..this..this..this reason". Now that person is fight with the vazhippokkan.
  
  
• From: Juan Pablo Montoya (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Fri May 3 10:11:15 EDT 2002
  
  Why Not,
  Your (3) sums it up and which is what ppl seem to miss. If a rahman's album didnt sell well, its assumed generally that the album didnt sell well by rahman's standards. But the df-ers seem to equate a rahman flop to a flop, in terms of commercial viability and the money the producers make out of it, from yuvan or a deva or a baradwaj.
  This thought in itself is funny.. :)
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Fri May 3 10:20:54 EDT 2002
  
  >>>> and for your info, and all others, i used the word "has been", cause someone used that for IR.....
  
  Sabesan is right, somebody else (I don't remember who) used it for IR and thats the reason he talked about ARR as 'has been',
  
  I don't believe in both ... :-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Fri May 3 10:25:44 EDT 2002
  
  NagaS - neither do i..... but just wanted to give back what i got :-)..... as ROTFL used to say "a man has got to do what he has to" :-)....
  
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Fri May 3 10:29:28 EDT 2002
  
  ha..sabesan
  
  this time you safely quoted the person. If you had not then for the sentence "a man has got to do what he has to" again a big arguement would have started :-)
  
  
• From: S (@ 128.107.253.42) on: Fri May 3 10:30:47 EDT 2002
  
  WN,
  Karthik's wud be an unbiased opinion...for he never had Raja and family in the list...He is one smart guy...very cleverly ignored YSR.
  
  
• From: S (@ 128.107.253.42) on: Fri May 3 10:31:34 EDT 2002
  
  ..and HJ is above him....ha...ha....majnu...samurai ellAm soooppper duper hit and nandha was a BIG flop, wasn't it karthik ??
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Fri May 3 10:31:47 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps - normally i tend not to quote - edhuku vambunu :-).....
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri May 3 11:15:45 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps, forget it...u meant something and i understood something else, and u were jus trying help out the HCIRFs sinking in their own insanity, so I'll leave u to ur own devices.
  
  "sometime back everyone kept saying "look at the sales of ARR's - has any of IR's albums sold like that"....."
  
  Sabesan, any ARR Fan can still ask u the same question.:-) and U still wont be able to manage a reply.
  
  "now that the sales is little down ...they come back saying "look at the quality""
  Ok, dont look at the quality then. Look at the sales then. Sales r lower by ARR standards, but still seems higher than u-know-whos.
  
  "and don't talk about FUTURE albums...... there used to be a saying (hmm..... gnabagaam vara maataengudhaey) - something like "dont hatch the hen while the egg is laid" or something like that.."
  
  Dont count the eggs before they hatch.
  Well, some people talk about IVAN, some others comment no one is approaching ARR anymore. So those examples were given to show top guns r still after ARR. It's not counting the eggs before they hatch. Within the context of whether ARR is still being sought-after, u can say these r eggs tat have already hatched.
  
  "and for your info, and all others, i used the word "has been", cause someone used that for IR"
  
  Maybe u forgot tat the someone (ROTFL) used it bcos someone else compared Sivaji (a has-been) with IR and Madhavan (yet to prove anything much) with ARR. How conveniently u leave that out.
  
  "and if u r saying "hey he has more albums", so does IR....."
  Yes he does :-).
  
  "and the whole thing about "NUMBER ONE" - i don't think there is a number one"
  Of course u dont think there's a no1...esp when ur fave MD is not the no1. But u still think there was a KING dont u? And the KING was IR. But no king now, no no1s now...hmmm, not tat it surprises me.
  
  Yes, S.
  
  I found Kathik's a very unbiased analysis. Too bad if my opinion regarding his post itches u all like childhood eczema. I am entitled to my opinions.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Fri May 3 11:36:41 EDT 2002
  
  manage a reply ? why should i manage a reply, when that is of least botheration to me.... to me it sounds like "hey, why did'nt Bradman get a name like Sachin gets now"..... both are/were/will be great and so would be the 2 MD's we are fighting for.... irrespective of cassette sales or MDs approaching or whatever.... if u say Shankar and MR are approaching ARR, so ARR is great, then i would come back asking "hey, Thangarbachan is with IR etc etc....".... but as i said, iam not bothered about casette sales or whatever.... to me, if i like a song from IR, then i hear it.... i enjoy it....
  
  and i don't think there is no Number 1, cause simply there is no number 1..... ARR may be GREAT, he may be/is creating wonders, but as of now, there is no number 1...... and as usual all IMHO :-)..... (super varthai ilaaa, solradhaiyum sollitu, all IMHOnu)....
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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