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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: .126 (@ 203.196.148.194) on: Tue Sep 2 06:04:06 EDT 2003
  
  One of the song from Luckyman (music by Adhithiyan?) "Yar seidha mayam pon.. is straight lift from one " Bill's song "She will always be a woman to me..".
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.199) on: Wed Sep 3 00:35:37 EDT 2003
  
  vidungappa... Aadhithyan fielda vittu poi samayal class edukka aarambichittaar... avara poi disturb pannittu ... :-))
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.199) on: Wed Sep 3 00:38:09 EDT 2003
  
  talking of "Boys", i feel the song that goes "Sarigame padanise" rhythm pattern is similar to a Michael Jackson/Janet Jackson combo song in "History" album, which MJ sang on his trip to India.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Wed Sep 3 02:13:25 EDT 2003
  
  126:
  
  Wonderful find! Just heard the Billy Joel number all over again and bingo, its a lift! The song's called 'She's always a woman'
  
  Could anybody point to an online source where I can listen/ download the Luckyman song?
  
  
• From: .126 (@ 203.196.148.194) on: Wed Sep 3 02:51:59 EDT 2003
  
  Karthi S:
  
  I remember one more song by Vidyasagar that sounds
  very simillar to John Denver's song "Sunshine..".
  
  The song by Vidyasagar is "Poovekleam siragu mulaithathu enthan thotathil..." [ It's one of Ajith's movie ].
  
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.81.100) on: Wed Sep 3 06:36:26 EDT 2003
  
  Vidhya sagar's "Kaadhal vandhathum kanniyin ullam" from "Poovellaam un vaasam" is just another version of Ilaiyaraja's "Sangathil Paadaatha kavithai" from "autoraja"
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 210.210.34.247) on: Wed Sep 3 08:09:16 EDT 2003
  
  JK
  "Kaadhal vandhathum kanniyin ullam" from "Poovellaam un vaasam" is actually a slower version of Ilaiyaraja's Malayalm Song by S.Janaki released during 80's. It is a beautiful Mal Song, with excellent violin pieces.
  
  
• From: JK (@ 61.11.81.100) on: Wed Sep 3 08:23:15 EDT 2003
  
  Sri!
  
  Is the song from the film "Olangal?"
  the song which i have mentioned("Sangathil Paadaatha kavithai" from "Autoraja") is a beautiful duet melody by Ilaiyaraaja and S.Janaki.
  
  After that the same tune is used in Malayalam "Olangal" and the same tune is used in kannada movie(Balumahendra's)(Kokila?)
  
  Another Balumahendra's film "Kanne kalaimaane" starring banuchander and archana has a song "Neerutru thee mootuthey"(s.jANAKI)
  
  'Aur ek prem kahani' -another Balu mahendra's hindi movie starring Revathi and Ramesh arvind contains the same tune with some western touch.
  "Sunday tho."
  
  so,i think Balu mahendra's most favourite song is that only.
  
  Is "olangal" directed by Balu mahendra?
  
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 203.199.209.101) on: Wed Sep 3 09:09:08 EDT 2003
  
  in addition to that the sangaththil paadaadha kavidha tune comes as a humming by IR himself as BGM in moondRaam pirai. It comes in the scene where kamal sees sridevi in the brothel house for the first time.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Wed Sep 3 09:14:55 EDT 2003
  
  Kupps,
  Where hav been for this long? Or did i miss your posts?:-) anyway welcome back
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 210.210.32.25) on: Thu Sep 4 09:49:14 EDT 2003
  
  JK
  
  The film is not 'Olangal'. It sounds something like 'Pachangni'. The song has some childrens's gigling towards the end. It is a typical S.Janaki's Song with her mesmerizing voice.
  
  
• From: mats (@ 61.1.244.181) on: Mon Sep 8 09:52:16 EDT 2003
  
  guys, heard the latest vidyasagar song "maankuttiye.. maankuttiye" from priyamana thozhi?
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  a note by note copy of the famous "sawan ka mahina" song sung by mukesh and lata (the song was one of the favorites of the great mukesh)!!
  why dont they at least go for obscure songs for plagiarising?
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 12.210.64.94) on: Mon Sep 8 10:09:16 EDT 2003
  
  priyaman thozi is by S A Rajkumar
  
  
• From: pg (@ 199.50.29.41) on: Mon Sep 8 10:34:17 EDT 2003
  
  L.Subramaniam also copied this bullfight theme in his Spanish Wave album.
  Listen to it here :
  
  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000XRQ/qid=1063032859/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/002-5949853-2361615?v=glance&s=music
  
  
  
• From: pg (@ 199.50.29.41) on: Mon Sep 8 10:34:40 EDT 2003
  
  First Piece (Spanish Wave )
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.79.94) on: Tue Sep 9 05:08:45 EDT 2003
  
  "Thiruda Thirudi" - Vandaar kuzhali song sounds similar to the old "Boom boom boom maattukkaaran theruvil vandhaandi".
  
  
• From: PP (@ 195.229.241.165) on: Fri Sep 12 08:49:57 EDT 2003
  
  Yet another Jingle, copying IR:
  
  This time, the ad-guys (Balki - Lintas?) have copied IR's ever green, "Pon MAlai Pozhudu" in the recent Kissan Jam commercial.
  
  
• From: .126 (@ 203.196.148.194) on: Mon Sep 15 02:20:53 EDT 2003
  
  One inspiration ?
  
  A.R.Rehaman's "Oru Poiyavadhu sol kannae.." from
  Jodi seems to be inspired/copied from
  Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Californication.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 203.197.136.35) on: Mon Sep 15 03:49:13 EDT 2003
  
  What about the song, "Maro Maro" from boys. It does similar to Queens "We will we will rock you". The boys song is a little bit faster compared to the queen's song.
  
  
• From: Guru (@ 203.195.186.253) on: Mon Sep 15 05:05:51 EDT 2003
  
  The song 'pothikinu paduthukkalaam' by Deva
  is a copy from
  the old film Vanangaa Mudi
  
  
• From: R.P.Ranganathan (@ 203.197.216.162) on: Mon Sep 15 06:51:37 EDT 2003
  
  It is wonderful. A hardwork is done to know the bestthings happened.
  
  
• From: MumbaiRamki (@ 203.193.152.200) on: Mon Sep 15 07:35:28 EDT 2003
  
  Guys ..
  
  The song "Or aayiraam parvailaye" from Vallavnuku Vallavaan is composed by Veda .But my doubt ,who is teh orginal ocmposer adn which film ???
  
  
• From: truefacts (@ 202.54.13.34) on: Mon Sep 15 08:28:15 EDT 2003
  
  'californication' came much after rahman's jodi. in fact, californication was released in 2000, whereas jodi was much before that [remember, the original was in hindi 'doli sajake rakhna']
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Mon Sep 15 10:55:53 EDT 2003
  
  By the truefacts, "Oru poiyavathu soll kanney" was not in the Hindi movie. That song was included exclusively for Jodi. Its a new song. Do u think RHCP will copy from Rahman (supposedly genius)? Where Rahman is the one who blantantly copies from other geniuses
  
  
• From: k (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Mon Sep 15 14:19:49 EDT 2003
  
  Yup..I too noticed the kissan jam commercial copying IRs song.
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 68.130.9.59) on: Mon Sep 15 16:42:59 EDT 2003
  
  Have you ever wondered if the fast guitar piece at the end of the song 'Muqabla Muqabla' in Kadhalan resembles the one in Bob Dylan's 'Things Have Changed'
  
  
• From: .126 (@ 203.196.148.194) on: Tue Sep 16 00:36:29 EDT 2003
  
  RHCP 'Californication' was released in June 1999.
  
  
• From: chandler (@ 129.24.247.122) on: Wed Sep 17 13:21:31 EDT 2003
  
  "Rahman (supposedly genius)? Where Rahman is the one who blantantly copies from other geniuses"
  
  Pls refrain from making these kind of statements...It is like you are talking as if you are the authority in Indian and Western music. Both Ilayaraja and Rahman are geniuses in their own rite...
  Everybody knows that ALW called ARRahman because he is really good in what he does..
  
  
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Wed Sep 17 14:22:48 EDT 2003
  
  "Everybody knows that ALW called ARRahman because he is really good in what he does".. ie.,
  "blatant copying"
  
  
  
• From: chandler (@ 129.24.247.122) on: Wed Sep 17 16:24:31 EDT 2003
  
  :-) :-)
  even though i liked the humor in ur response,sorry i disagree..can you support what u said?
  
  
• From: K (@ 192.154.91.225) on: Wed Sep 17 17:25:21 EDT 2003
  
  ALW called AR Rehman because he was recommended to him by Shekar Kapoor who was common friends to both ARR and ALW.
  
  The way it is being spun by the ARR sympathizers are as if ALW independently did an evaluation of all the Indian composers and chose AR Rehman as the best among them. This is not true.
  
  Shekar Kapur introduced ARR's music to ALW who was palnning a Broadway show on Bollywood. He liked the music and signed him. Do not heed to overstatement of how ALW chose ARR.
  
  
• From: chandler (@ 68.35.129.161) on: Wed Sep 17 19:02:02 EDT 2003
  
  Jst because shekar kapur recommended him doesnt necessarily mean that ALW didnt evaluate.ALW himself is a great musician.do u think he would have selected solely based on reco...no way..also it is a million dollar production.he wouldnt base it on just recos..
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.63) on: Thu Sep 18 00:55:34 EDT 2003
  
  do u ever think ALW or any producer will say something like "I chose to work with XYZ just because he gives ultimate crap in the world"? :-)) Its normal to speak high of the guy whom you work with. :-)
  
  
• From: paran (@ 203.123.16.135) on: Thu Sep 18 07:12:38 EDT 2003
  
  Well....guys...Shekar Kapur showed Dil Se video to ALW (for the music of course)...
  
  now..out of 500 songs of ARR (based on ur calculations)..SK found at least 1 to show to a person, with high calibre like ALW..
  
  but sadly..out of 4500 ++ songs...he found none to show to ALW?...why is that so?...
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 12.210.64.94) on: Thu Sep 18 11:10:18 EDT 2003
  
  Because out of the 4500+ songs not even 20 songs were related to current bollywood trend. Movies like Sadma, Kamagni and Mahadev don't figure as bollywood popular movies. If it was not ARR ALW would have picked the next most popular MD for his musical, if he had the intent to pick one, if not ARR fans do have a lot to feel proud about. But who knows?
  
  
• From: kum (@ 146.184.0.71) on: Thu Sep 18 11:37:46 EDT 2003
  
  paran,
  
  its because ALW needs only crap songs..not a real good one. Thats y SK should have introduced ARR to ALW...yenda vaya kilaringa....
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18) on: Fri Sep 19 01:10:32 EDT 2003
  
  "Well....guys...Shekar Kapur showed Dil Se video to ALW (for the music of course)...
  
  now..out of 500 songs of ARR (based on ur calculations)..SK found at least 1 to show to a person, with high calibre like ALW..
  
  but sadly..out of 4500 ++ songs...he found none to show to ALW?...why is that so?..."
  
  B4 u jump 2 tat, did u check wif SK whether did he even consider researching into IR first?
  
  

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