Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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- From: S.Sudharshan (@ 202.41.72.121)
on: Mon Sep 13 08:08:59 EDT 1999
Hi,
What is the raga of the song - "nenacchapadi nenacchapadi " from KAdalar dinam ?
Also tell me the raga of the song "oru pOkkiri rAtthiri parkira parvaithan"( a very good song with nice interludes) from Ithu namma Boomi ?
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Mon Sep 13 09:29:18 EDT 1999
The 'Raga list' has peN ondru kandEn as Brindavana Saranga. Veena Gayathri's cassette has the same song listed under the raga of Brindavani. Aren't these two ragas different?
TIA
- From: Vasu (@ s01.austin.ibm.com)
on: Mon Sep 13 18:48:04 EDT 1999
Ravy:
They are same.
Is the raga of song "Mudal mudalil parthen..." from "aha" based on kiravani, im not able to get it. Thanks
- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Wed Sep 15 09:52:00 EDT 1999
Friends,
Is there any TF song in raagam "Vagulabaranam"? Also I would like to know of any carnatic songs with composer if possible.
Thanks in advance
Gopal
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Wed Sep 15 22:35:45 EDT 1999
Vasu,
'mudhan mudhalil paarthen..' is based on yaman kalyani.
- From: Hrishikesh (@ 202.144.22.148)
on: Thu Sep 16 12:44:09 EDT 1999
Gopal,
I think the song in HFM Chappa Chappa Charkha Chale from Maachis is in Vakulabharanam
Lalgudi Jayaraman in an interview told that one of the pieces in Yanni live at the Taj was in Vakulabharanam.
- From: Vasu (@ s01.austin.ibm.com)
on: Thu Sep 16 14:09:06 EDT 1999
RR,
Now that you said it, i feel it, thanks!
Gopal,
I remember seeing one instrumental in vakulabharanam by LSubramaniam, dunno the composition. Balamuralikrishna (Raganga Ravali cassette by Sangeetha) & Kotiswara Iyer have composed in all melakarthas so there should be definitely one by them.
- From: saketh (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu)
on: Thu Sep 16 14:47:23 EDT 1999
someone said the song "poo mudhippaal indha poonguzhali" from the movie "nenjirukkum varai" (sivaji starrer) is based on Vakulabharanam. experts confirm.
- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Thu Sep 16 17:02:59 EDT 1999
Is Vakulabaranam a Melakartha? Is there any famous janya/ derivative of this raagam.
I heard a RTP in Vakulabaranam by Mandolin U.Srinivas last weekend at Lincoln Cneter,Broadway,NYC . That's when I first ever heard of this raagam ..
Anyway, it's an excellent raagam..
Sounded more like arabic tunes to me (you know like the Hey! Shabba Hey! Shabba types - Arjun song, can't recollect the movie )
Gopal
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Sep 17 02:22:24 EDT 1999
Gopal, Vakulabaranam is a Melakartha. The only difference between MayamalvaGoula and VKB is Ni,MMG has N3 whereas VKB has N2. 'Naam oruvarai oruvar santhippom yena kaathal devathai sonnaaL' from Kumari kottam is predominantly in VKB (Based on the original scale of the song, the song starts with Pa). This song has some Islamic touch to it as you mentioned.The stanzas of Poomudippaal are definitely in VKB.
Another one of the unsolved mysteries, what raag are the following songs based on ?
Naalaam Naalaam thirunaalaam
Manaivi amaivathellaam
Lilly malarukku kondaattam. Ragaesri ? Experts please confirm. I was told that Subbudu praised the raaga usage in Naalam Naalam.
- From: Vasu (@ s02.austin.ibm.com)
on: Fri Sep 17 09:25:53 EDT 1999
Sriram:
I think, Naalam Naalam is in Tilang. Id also like to know raga of Manaivi...
USrinivas is likely getting into rare ragas! I recently heard a composition in Sucharitra (MK 67 I think) which was just wonderful. (BMG crescendo cassettes).
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Fri Sep 17 21:32:03 EDT 1999
Vasu: I've heard U Srinivas playing 'Neethimati'. He has also played ragavardhini in Ilayaraja's classics.
BTW visit forumhub.com/indcmusic, for more discussion on rare ragas, if you are interested.
- From: Radhai (@ h32be.s86b1.baynetworks.com)
on: Wed Sep 22 20:36:11 EDT 1999
Can someone tell me which raaga is "Endhan Nenjil Neengaadha" in the movie Kalaignan
Is it a Hindustani raaga?
Also, is the song "Sollayoo Vaai Thirandhu " in Mogha mul of the raaga "Shanmugha Priya?"
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Thu Sep 23 00:46:28 EDT 1999
Endhan nenjil is in "Nalina kaanthi". The mohamul song isin SP.
- From: Madhu (@ ss08.ny.us.ibm.com)
on: Thu Sep 23 13:27:15 EDT 1999
Hi..I listened to this song from Kadhal Kavidhai - alai meedhu vilaiyadum ilam thendrale...Bavadhari has sung it so well..Sounds like Sudha Dhanyasi..right ?
- From: Kooththan-II (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com)
on: Thu Sep 23 18:32:03 EDT 1999
Sriram Lakshmanan, Antha moonu paattum paththi yethini vaatti kekkareenga ?
If naalaam is tilang , then 'manaivi...' also tilang.MSV lots of tilang usage, raagas MDs have as their base favorite are very intresting. IR have kalyani, mohanam, keeravani, mmgoula,sindhubhairavi etc. MSV have tilang, Hamir kalyani, Kambhoji family, Karakarapriya and family ,sindhu bhairavi ,desh, kapi etc .
Please give me raaga for 'Mullaippooppole rendu mookkuththi minnuthadi' by TMS and ?. Pallavi sound like start flute piece in 'Mohe panghat pe nandlala chched gayo re' by naushad ali. 'Mohe.' is in Gaara, close to kapi.
- From: Kooththan-II (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com)
on: Fri Sep 24 17:21:48 EDT 1999
Anybody there....?? Yennappa, koncham help thevai......or admin. peoples, please delete posting if nobody interested.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
- From: Sridhar K (@ elmo.nordstrom.com)
on: Fri Sep 24 19:16:48 EDT 1999
Hi...
Not actually related to TFM and Raagas...but I hope someone out there will help me.
Is there any website where I can get the lyrics of 'Purandaradasar' krithis.
Thanks.
- From: Radhai (@ h32be.s86b1.baynetworks.com)
on: Fri Sep 24 21:06:05 EDT 1999
Sridhar !!! You might want to go to this site www.carnaticmusic.com. I am not sure if u will find the lyrics, but u might get a clue !!!
Can someone tell me if there is a western note in Poove sempoove song composed by IR and sung by Yesudas? It is a great blend of Carnatic and western in my opinion
Also, can u tell me the Raaga of Unnidam Mayangugiren (Composed by V.Kumar and rendered by Yesudas)
- From: Vasu (@ 185.austin-03-04rs.tx.dial-access.att.net)
on: Sat Sep 25 17:32:09 EDT 1999
Radhai,
Unnidam mayangugiren - Not sure but probably Kalyani.
- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Mon Sep 27 17:10:25 EDT 1999
Can Somebody tell me the Raaga of the old TF Song,
"Azhagiya Mithilai Nagarinile, Yaarukku Janaki Kaathirundhaal?" ..
Is it Janasammodhini ? ("Govinda" fame by Maharajapuram , I may be spelling the raaga wrong).
Pls clarify.
Thanks in advance
Gopal
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 03:07:59 EDT 1999
Vasu, cannot be Kalyani, if you notice, the pallavi itself touches subsequent notes, Unnidam mayangugiren. To me, it is cinema ragam.
- From: Sree (@ orchid.cs.concordia.ca)
on: Tue Sep 28 03:16:38 EDT 1999
Can anybody tell me the Raaga of the songs "Sollayo Vaythiranthu" , and "Nenje Gurunatharin" .
Thanks.
- From: Sree (@ orchid.cs.concordia.ca)
on: Tue Sep 28 03:16:56 EDT 1999
Can anybody tell me the Raaga of the songs "Sollayo Vaythiranthu" , and "Nenje Gurunatharin" from the film "Moga Mull".
Thanks.
- From: Radhai (@ h32be.s86b1.baynetworks.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 14:46:25 EDT 1999
Sree,
Sollayo Vai... Shamuga Priya
Nenje Guru... Nataka Priya
- From: Sree (@ tarka.cs.concordia.ca)
on: Tue Sep 28 16:50:33 EDT 1999
Thank you Radhai. Is raga of the song "Nee Oru Kadhal sangeetham" Shanmuga Priya ?
- From: Madhu (@ ss07.ny.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 17:11:52 EDT 1999
Nee oru kadha sangeetham is Nalina Kanthi
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ inehou-pxy06.compaq.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 17:37:27 EDT 1999
Madhu: 'nee oru kaadha sangeetham' charam sounds like Desh !
- From: Vasu (@ 80.austin-06-07rs.tx.dial-access.att.net)
on: Tue Sep 28 20:45:36 EDT 1999
Sriram,
Can you explain what you meant by 'subsequent notes'?
Thx
- From: Vasu (@ 80.austin-06-07rs.tx.dial-access.att.net)
on: Tue Sep 28 21:16:44 EDT 1999
Sriram,
I think you meant SR1R2... right? I was thinking of the C major as subsequent notes and failed to catch the minor ones you meant.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ snfcb903-15.splitrock.net)
on: Wed Sep 29 02:37:14 EDT 1999
Vasu, yeah.. I meant R1R2.Nevertheless, a super composition by VK. Starting the charanam without the appropriate chords/instruments to prompt you could be a tricky affair. Other songs with similar features Thedinen vanthathu, Odum ENNangaLe.
I am interested in knowing the arohanam/avarohanam for Ragaesri. Thx in advance.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.142)
on: Wed Sep 29 15:50:57 EDT 1999
Sriram,
Unnidam mayangugiren in my opinion is one of the toughest song for anybody to sing. can u call it as a WC based composition?
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.142)
on: Wed Sep 29 19:04:40 EDT 1999
Pl. read the above posting as"can u call it a western-style compostion?"
- From: Ramanan (@ boo.ucar.edu)
on: Wed Sep 29 20:56:24 EDT 1999
Vijay:
Unnidam mayangugiren in my opinion is one of the toughest song for anybody to sing...
I certainly don't think so.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.103)
on: Wed Sep 29 23:24:04 EDT 1999
Ramanan,
I have clearly said IN MY OPINION;))
- From: Sadish (@ 202.54.69.151)
on: Sat Oct 2 03:24:31 EDT 1999
Hai,
Can anyone tell the songs composed in Subha Panthuvaraali in TFM...?
Thanks in Advance,
Sadish kumar
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