Topic started by daisy (@ 203.200.15.20) on Tue Jun 12 05:21:28 EDT 2001.
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He is the 1st M.D to recieve such an award-what do you think is the reason?I think it is because of the impact he created in both north,south India and abroad...
What do u think guys....
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- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183)
on: Mon Jun 25 13:04:17 EDT 2001
STS:
>>>Whatever it is, ARR deserves the award.
Ada idhu neenga thaana? idhu newtfmpage thaana?
>>>Irrespective of whatever happens Raasa Raasaathaan.
Idu neenga than. Oru nimisham aadi poitten.
Anyway, I too agree with your last statement.
- From: Sridhar Raman (@ 203.200.15.20)
on: Mon Jun 25 14:45:22 EDT 2001
Athi
Who do you think you are, some sort of God? I make a comment on IR's voice and my true colours are revealed. But others can make fun of ARR's voice as much as they want. What crap!!!
I am an ARR fan and thats it. Me being a fan was revealed much before I mentioned anything about the voice.
And of course, I stick to my opinion that you need a total washover. Too GREEN!
- From: musicfan (@ 199.103.141.180)
on: Mon Jun 25 15:53:38 EDT 2001
Hi !
I have been following this thread and have noticed that we have ended up deviating from the mail question.
IR is a genius and so is ARR.They are not to be and cannot be compared.ARR rules with the multitude of instruments and modern technology.IR rules with the sheer power of human voice and the depth of lyrics expressed thus.
Coming to the Padmashri, I would like to know if IR has been the recipient of any award like this.If not, its a shame..as he has composed in more than 3 languages and has been a CONSISTENT composer all over the last 20 yrs.He deserves one, if ARR does.
Well ,how did ARR them get one.Id call it a patriotic marketing blitzkreig unleashed by Bala and Kanika that saw Vande Mataram acquire cult status.Well, it does help if Vande Mataram becomes as and more popular than a Choli Ke Peeche among the teens today.ARR might have diluted the lyrical content and true beauty of the song, but we hav to admit that he made the feeling of being patriotic a fashion !
And his high profile albums and popularity has got him the Award..more than his music.
And I wud like to remind all of you, that a Padmashri does not make ARR a better music composer than IR. And not getting a Padmashri doesnt make IR any less than his true greatness.
All of us IR fans out there, know that as long as we get to hear the Raaja's music, we are happy !
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Mon Jun 25 23:15:44 EDT 2001
musicfan,
Ellaam sari but pls don't say IR is a genius and so is ARR
In that case, I would say SAR is a genius and so too is ARR. No offense meant.
Common Friend,
:)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Tue Jun 26 02:51:44 EDT 2001
adhu...adhu....STS
adra sakka adra sakka...yennada STS-a ippidi solluradhunnu ninaichaen, now STS kalkkiteenga..
;-)
- From: Raakshashan (@ 203.199.205.25)
on: Tue Jun 26 03:55:19 EDT 2001
musicfan,
great comments except the sentence "so is ARR".
ARR is a very talented person but to call him a genius is making a mockery of the word "Genius".
- From: Raakshashan (@ 203.199.205.25)
on: Tue Jun 26 03:55:36 EDT 2001
musicfan,
great comments except the sentence "so is ARR".
ARR is a very talented person but to call him a genius is making a mockery of the word "Genius".
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53)
on: Tue Jun 26 04:45:23 EDT 2001
Anbula Raakshashane..
ARR ai ipudi ARRukuriye..
Thangamudiyavilaiye...
Ungal pagai yenna ?!! :)
- From: Sridhar Raman (@ 210.214.118.119)
on: Tue Jun 26 09:20:18 EDT 2001
music fan said:
"IR is a genius and so is ARR "
S T S said:
"SAR is a genius and so too is ARR"
In other words SAR=IR.
- From: Sridhar Raman (@ 210.214.118.119)
on: Tue Jun 26 09:21:00 EDT 2001
or IR=SAR.
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Tue Jun 26 10:27:41 EDT 2001
It should further be read as
m.f. said
IR=ARR
STS said
ARR=SAR
S.R. indirectly derived
SAR=IR
What he failed to see is,
Algebra fails everywhere except mathematics
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230)
on: Tue Jun 26 11:13:34 EDT 2001
Fliflo,
"What he failed to see is,"
Who is "he" in this question?
"Algebra fails everywhere except mathematics"
eppadinnu konjam sollunga?Naanum therinjukkarane!
- From: IsaiGnaniyinTozhan (@ 212.77.207.151)
on: Tue Jun 26 13:05:01 EDT 2001
One good question, you fools who says that IR is not good.
IR didn't have any copy paste facility or sequencer
when he came with annakkili and repeated the success with lot of films.
At that time we never had all these stupid channels.
No southindian director was given entry to northindia.
You see, if IR was younger by 10 years or more
this ARR stuff would never had happened. ARR is just following the trend or track set by IR.
huh, it is difficult to debate but that is the truth you filthy beggars. go and try to respect the genius. if you can't do that atleast don't bash you fools. che..enna ulakamadaa idu...
with heart still beating ...
nalaykkupaarkalaam.
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Tue Jun 26 14:13:49 EDT 2001
Trend;
Romba naalaikku appuram ungalai santhippathu mikka maghilchi. Unga kelvikku thakka nerathil bathil kidaikkum...
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230)
on: Tue Jun 26 15:02:51 EDT 2001
Fliflo,
Same here.:-)Eagerly anticipating(algebra stuff)...
- From: musicfan (@ 199.103.141.180)
on: Tue Jun 26 15:54:34 EDT 2001
Makkale
What I meant by calling both IR and ARR as genius is thus..
IR made the best use of his talents and made millions fans of his amazing music.I am a die hard fan of IR and my IR collection outlasts my ARR collection by a few hundred songs or more.
ARR, whatver said and done, has indeed made the best of the techno-crazy youth tastes and emerged as an indisputed leader on an all-India level.
His music is as well recd in Hindi as it is in tamil.Thats something we might not like, but cannot deny.
It is in that perspective that I termed him a genius.Maybe I should have used the term an Intelligent and savvy music director.That would have made more sense in that context.So I take my sentence back.
Also I agree to one point of IGT that Ilayaraja did not have that kind of a exposure by means of internet and satellite channels and what not that ARR enjoys today.If it had been there 20 years back, I am sure IR would have also ruled the entire nation with his musical wizardry.
Its all about the period.
But then guys, if IR had got national exposure, we might have got a fewer set of PURE tamil songs from him and a lot more of other languages.But we are fortunate that we hav so many of his amazing songs in Tamil and a considerable amount in telugu and Malayalam I suppose.
So its all for the best !
But I still havent got a reply to my earlier question..if IR has been accorded any award on a national level other than the national awards of course, which I think he has got thrice.
- From: Trend "IF I had brains.... " (@ 216.68.113.230)
on: Tue Jun 26 16:38:24 EDT 2001
"if IR had got national exposure"
"if IR has been accorded any award"
One of my favourite pastimes is "what if I had this" kind of scenario!
IF I had brains like Einstein..
IF I can bat like Don Bradman..
IF I can make movies like Satyajit Ray..
The list goes on....
IF I had a little common sense I wouldn't be wasting all your time.
- From: :-( (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Wed Jun 27 04:24:29 EDT 2001
"IF I had brains" would suffice...
- From: Raman (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Wed Jun 27 06:21:53 EDT 2001
Why few people getting nobel prize, if you get the answer then you know Why ARR got the Padmashri.
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Wed Jun 27 09:57:09 EDT 2001
"Why few people getting nobel prize, if you get the answer then you know Why ARR got the Padmashri"
FYI, Nobel prize is given almost always for original International contributions only. A totally novel discoveries have higher possibilities. There are several nobel prizes offered in the same field (such as superconductivity, 5 Nobel prizes till date) or same person winning more than one Nobel Prize but in different fields (ex, Bardeen , Transistor and BCS theroy, Linus Pauling (Organic Chemistry and Peace) etc..Before getting into such comparisons make sure you're enougly informative to justify yourself..
- From: Magilchi Adainthavan (@ 157.182.41.102)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:13:37 EDT 2001
hello fliflo,
Ithu sariyana thakuthal!!
Appadi podunga aruvalai!!
- From: (^!^) (@ 207.43.195.201)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:23:21 EDT 2001
Nobel prize la yum Padmasri la yum immaam visayam keedhaa? moor maarket kku pinnaala arai bladu arNaasalam roobaakku mooNu thaarEn, indhaa aLLikkO nu bEram pOttaanE. adhu innaa kasumaal*m prizu pinna?
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:30:06 EDT 2001
(^|^) naina...
andha moor maarket arnaasalam kunsa unaa dabaikka paathaan...
adhu Nobel prize illa naina...nalla kavnichikka adhau "No Pal" prizu..uh..ha.
adha vangyaandhu un ootanda kuduththannu vachchikayaen o(n) pal puttukku adhaanal thaan andha gallejukku "No Pal" prizunnu paer vachan...
kandukiniyaa...
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:35:32 EDT 2001
aiyae Padmasri-nnu nee nenchikinaa moor market arnaasalam yenna panva(n).
nalla theleeva kandukka adhu padam visiri...ippalaa(ng) madras-la karant kattaguthulla naina adhukku kosaram unku padam pota visiri tharaan adha poi nee wronga kanduginiyae ba...
yenna matter kleena punjicha??
- From: WARNING (@ 202.9.180.153)
on: Wed Jun 27 10:44:53 EDT 2001
SAR = ARR = IR = UR COMPARISON = BULL -- = IDIOTIC MIND COMPARISON = ARDENT STUPIDITY = DONT COMPARE IR WITH ANYONE
- From: Kumudam (A) Warning accepted (@ 157.182.41.102)
on: Wed Jun 27 11:46:48 EDT 2001
Sonnathu:
SAR = ARR = IR = UR COMPARISON = BULL -- = IDIOTIC MIND COMPARISON = ARDENT STUPIDITY = DONT COMPARE IR WITH ANYONE
Sollathathu:
If u want to compare,compare him with Bach,Mozart,etc.
- From: Fan of ARR (@ 203.197.81.26)
on: Wed Jun 27 11:51:58 EDT 2001
as far as HFM contribution goes, ARR beats IR left-right, top-bottom, vertically,horizontally, whichever way u want to look at it.
All of ARRs Hindi scores are good, unlike IRs PATHETICALLY POOR scores in Shiva,Mahadev,Sadhma,Hey Raam and other Hindi movies.
I think ARR is 100 times much more better than IR.
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