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Which is your favourite Raaga and why??????

Topic started by peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on Mon Feb 5 01:26:22 EST 2001.
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Hi All,

I dont know anything about carnatic music but from various articles in the internet i could know which song was based oin which raaga.I found that 75% of my fav songs are based on "MOHANAM".For example geetham sangeetham,ninnukori varnam,nilavu thoongum neram,kanmaniye kathal enbathu,idhayam oru kovil etc etc...are all my top fav's..
So can everybody tell which raaga is their favourite and quote some songs...

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• From: hari (@ 146.6.101.148) on: Thu Feb 15 13:46:52 EST 2001
  
  Maayaamaalava gowlai - one of my favorites. Lot of songs -
  
  Maasaru Ponnae varuga - Devar Magan.
  Madhura Marikkozhundhu - Yenga ooru paattukkaaran
  Meenamma - Raajaadhi Raaja
  
  You cannot be free - How to name it (wonderful!!!) - is this based on a carnatic kriti? (sounds familiar)
  
  more..?
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Feb 15 14:51:23 EST 2001
  
  There is a beautiful song by IR
  on film Metti called 'Metti Oli' if i am right the rag is called 'Jog',this is similar to the song 'Madathila kanni Madathila'.
  And IR also composed one beautiful song in the same film Metti based on Shyama raga.
  These are my all time favourites for its beautiful composition,lyrics,mood
  1)Vedam Nee Inya nadam nee
  Ragam-Gowli sung by KJY film Kovil Pura all time classic song thalam 3/4 i guess
  2)Amudhe Thamizhe same film ragam-Bowli
  3)Kundalile Megam Kandu extraordinary song
  sung by KJY ragam Bilahari(great Brihas by KJY)
  4)Vara Vara Kadal Mayaikkam sung by JC
  Ragam-Durga another beautiful one
  5)Nan thedum sevanthi po sung by Ir himself
  ragam Hindolam
  so much beautiful ones by IR all semi classical
  the list goes on
  
  
• From: RP (@ 152.163.204.203) on: Thu Feb 15 15:54:33 EST 2001
  
  Dharbari kanada is one of my favourites:
  some DKs are:
  1. Malare mounamaa.....
  2. Nee katru naan maram..........
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Fri Feb 16 00:42:57 EST 2001
  
  CRAM,
  You are most welcome. I hope I was able to communicate the concept.
  
  RV, 'Amudhe Tamizhe' from 'Kovil PuRa' is not BOWLI, but a raga called 'Rasika Ranjani'. This beautiful morning raga has rarely been used in Krithis.
  IR, of course has used it in 3 occasions. The other two songs being,
  'NeelakkuyilE UnnOdu NAn PaNpAduvEn' ('film: 'Magudi') and
  recently in 'Bharati' (IMO, the best song of the film), 'Edhilum Ingu IruppAn Avan YAro'
  
  KeeravANi is one of my fav. ragas in TFM and there are many gems from IR's repertoire like
  
  1. 'Kaatril Endhan Geetam' (Johnny)
  2. 'Unnai NAn ARivEn' (Guna)
  3. 'EnnuLLE EnnuLLE' (VaLLi)
  4. 'Thanga Changili' & 'BhoopALam Isaikkum' (Thooral Ninnu POchu)
  5. 'MalargaLile Aaradhanai' (Karumbu Vil)
  6. 'POvOmA OorgOlam' (Chinna Thambi)
  7. 'KeeraVaNi IravilE KanavilE' (PAdum ParavaigaL)
  8. 'MalayOram Veesum Kaathu' (PAdu NilAvE)
  9. 'Oh PApA LAli' (Idhayathai ThirudAthe)
  10. 'NenjukkuLLE InnArennu' (POnnuMaNi)
  11. 'Nee ThAna Nee ThAna' (ThAlAttu pAdava)
  12. 'SuththAde Bhoomi ThAyE Nil' (NilavE Mugam Kaattu)
  
  
  
• From: Omega (@ 205.227.43.15) on: Fri Feb 16 01:29:04 EST 2001
  
  UV,
  
  Vedam Nee , Iniya naadam nee is 'Thodi'
  Any film songs in SriRanjani?
  
  hari,
  
  some more Maayamalagowlais
  - kallellam maanicka kal aaguma
  - poonkadhave, thaazhthiravaai, poovai
  penpaavai
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Fri Feb 16 03:42:13 EST 2001
  
  Omega,
  Vedham Nee is either GowLai or BowLi. It is not Todi for sure.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on: Fri Feb 16 04:11:41 EST 2001
  
  yes..todi was was never tried much in TFM as other ragams..I think there is some todi based song in karthik movie by IR
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.6.126.74) on: Fri Feb 16 05:26:09 EST 2001
  
  peeps,
  if my memory is correct, the todi based (not pure todi) song is gangai karai mannanadi from varusham 16. I read it in 'Classical Illaiyaraaja' by SLRaamkrishnan's article. He says in pallavi and charanam the thodi is heard but in the interlude music the raagam degenerates to the lighter sindhu-bhairavi or something like that.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.6.126.74) on: Fri Feb 16 05:29:37 EST 2001
  
  there was one pure todi song in the film called Thodi Raagam by kunnakudi vaidhyanaathan. Carnatic vocalist T.N.Seshagopalan was the hero. In that film one song Thodiyil paadugindraen Odi nee varuvaai muruha in a kutchery style. That song was set in Thodi Raagam (courtesy 'Classical Illaiyaraaja' by SLRaamkrishnan's article)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Feb 16 06:20:48 EST 2001
  
  sriranjani, another beautiful ragam (well, which one isn't?). IR gave a great song in this ragam - naadham ezhundhadhadi from gopura vasalile.
  
  Neels,
  we ought to discuss more ragams, like charukesi and arabhi, and how they have been handled by our composers.
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 206.49.110.156) on: Fri Feb 16 08:29:14 EST 2001
  
  Thanks a lot for your educative mails.
  
  * In one of the earlier films of IR (Mudhal Iravu), IR used Mayamalava Gowlai in Manjal Nilavukku, with a WCM orchestration.
  
  * Charukesi in Raghavendrar film song - ??
  
  * Arabhi in Erikkarai mele poravale, Mannavane Mannavane (Thandhuvitten ennai) and Madhurai vazhum Meenakshi (Pudhupatti Ponnuthayee) are nice ones.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Fri Feb 16 09:29:09 EST 2001
  
  Omega
  
  Vedam Nee Inya nadam nee is Gowli and not thodi
  classical song Pranamayaham Gowri Sudham is set to Gowli u can make a connection between these two songs there no relation of thodi whatsoever in Vedam nee song.
  IR has composed a song 'Gangakarai Mannadi'
  in Varusham 16 based on thodi set to mishra chapu thalam
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Fri Feb 16 09:31:58 EST 2001
  
  'Aasi Kiliye Araikilo puliye' this is a song
  from Rajnis movie Thambiku Entha Ooru
  this is set to Arabi ragam ofcourse MD is IR.
  And all time classical by TMS forgot the movie
  name starrin TSRajendran the song 'Erikarai Mele Poravale pen mayile' is also Arabhi ragam.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Fri Feb 16 09:35:31 EST 2001
  
  Following songs based on
  Charukesi
  a)Adatha Manamum undo from Manathi Manan I guess(MGR)
  b)Adal Kalaye Devan thanthathu from Sri Ragahavendra MD IR
  c)All time classic is 'Manmatha Lilai' by Great MKT
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Feb 16 10:36:27 EST 2001
  
  yes UV
  manmatha leelai is the all-time great in this ragam. there ought to be no dispute. when i was younger, so much younger than today, i used to laugh the music of people like MKT, Chinnappa, etc. only now do I realise how great their music is.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Fri Feb 16 12:14:00 EST 2001
  
  cram pure voice no digital enhancements buddy
  what a voice MKT,PU CHinappa after that very high pitch voice TRMahalingam
  I am sure TR Mahalingam had some of the best songs
  one being Senthamizh Thenmozhiyal and few others
  somebody care to list the songs and ragas of TRMahalingam
  thanks
  
  
• From: Omega (@ 205.227.43.11) on: Fri Feb 16 17:37:39 EST 2001
  
  UV, neenga correct,
  
  naan edho ninaichindu olaritten))
  
  Vedam nee - Gowla
  
  
• From: nandu narasimhan (@ 203.197.228.104) on: Sat Feb 17 00:27:21 EST 2001
  
  My first time here. And what a bloody brilliant forum! Born and educated in Mas. settled in Delhi, from a Carnatic household, and currently totally out of touch.
  What a way to get back into talking Carnatic!
  Need some answers pls :
  What ragam is Thenral vandu theendum pothu "Avataaram"?
  And Yenna chatham inda neram from "Punnagai Mannan"?
  And pls can someone give me more examples in this ragam both from TFM and HFM(pls. I'm married to a Punjabi who incidentally loves IR!)
  Many thanx
  
  
• From: Omega (@ 205.227.43.12) on: Sat Feb 17 13:57:27 EST 2001
  
  Nandu,
  
  yenna chatham indha neram is
  'sindhu bhairavi' I think!
  
  Please correct me anyone if wrong.
  
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sun Feb 18 04:36:04 EST 2001
  
  UV
  
  great to find someone who still remembers those greats. how many singers can you find today who can hold you in thrall with just their voice? not many, and none in the class of MKT or TRM.
  talking of TRM, he's most famous for senthamizh thenmozhiyal (though i don't like it as much now as i did when i first heard it). but some of his less-famous songs are what appeal to me.
  eg: naanandri yaar varuvaar
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ 213.11.117.252) on: Sun Feb 18 07:44:10 EST 2001
  
  Yenna chatham inda neram is indeed Sindhubairavhi.
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ 213.11.117.252) on: Sun Feb 18 07:44:20 EST 2001
  
  Yenna chatham inda neram is indeed Sindhubairavhi.
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ 213.11.117.252) on: Sun Feb 18 07:51:53 EST 2001
  
  Mine is NALINAKANTHI - This features in the BGM of the movie Kandukonden Kandukonden and also as part of the title song, which has Kadhanakuthuhalam and shades of Maand mixed with it.
  
  IR did the best Nalinakanthi, in my book - this being 'ENDHAN NENJIL NEE PAADUM THENDRAL NEETHAANA'.
  
  It is quite a Rare Ragam , with only a few Krithis - nowadays, people are writing Varnams, Thillanas, e.t.c. in it. The famous Krithi in it is 'MANAVYALAKIN CHARA' by Thyagaraja. Another one is 'Nee paadhame gathi Nalinakanthi Madhi' by GNB
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Mon Feb 19 01:29:14 EST 2001
  
  Nandu narasimhan,
  You may find the following link useful. It is a good reference database for RAGA BASED FILM SONGS:
  http://asp.newtfmpage.com/list.asp
  Please note the last column in the table that shows whether a record has been confirmed yet by experts.
  
  UV,
  'AdAtha manamum uNdO' by the Late M. L. Vasanthakumari is set to 'LatAngi' raga (notes similar to KalyaNi, the difference is: Dha2 of KalyaNi is replaced by Dha1.) The above raga has recently been used in the song, 'Enge Enathu Kavitai' in KKKK (Music: ARR) in the charanams ('MARan Ambugalin..)' before raga Sindhu Bhairavi takes over.
  
  cram,
  'Vasanta mullai pole vandhu' (film: SArangadhAra) is a classic example of Charukesi.
  It is also used in the Ragamalika song, 'Pudhiya paRavai Siragai adikka thudkkirathe' (film: Andha Oru Nimidam; Music: IR). Refer to the lines, 'Chozhakkuyil pAdugayil Cholaik Kuyil Oyvedukkum, mellinangaL pAdu kaNNe, vallinangal vai valikkum'. It's pure Charukesi.
  
  Other instances of Charukesi are:
  
  'Thoodu Selvaharadi, Urigidum Podhu Seivathennadi' from 'SingAravelan . Music : IR)
  
  'ThoongAtha KaNNindu Ondru' (one of my favorite oldies, Film: Kunkumam(I think) MD: Viswanathan & Ramamurthy) is a good example of Charukesi used in a very light way.
  
  Arabhi hasn't been used very much in films. As mentioned in this thread, 2 such instances are 'Erikkarayin Mele' (though some say it is DevagandhAri) and 'Asai KiLiye arakkilO puLiye' (film: Tambikku Entha Ooru). There may be some real old numbers set to this raga, but I am not ware of them.
  
  Arabhi has been used in the Tamil dubbed version of the Telugu hit, 'Seeta RAmaiyyagaru Manavarulu' (I think the Tamil name is 'VandhAL Mahalakshmiye'). There is a song that follows the Tyagaraja Pancharatna krithi, 'SAthinjane O ManasA).
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Feb 19 04:12:21 EST 2001
  
  neels,
  good going. we need people like you talking at length on such aspects.
  
  nandu,
  welcome, puttar. hope you enjoy your stay here (be warned, this place is highly addictive).
  
  

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