The Legends (MSV-TKR songs) cassetee release by HMV
Topic started by RV (@ c660409-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on Wed Jul 19 01:57:27 EDT 2000.
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I got a 5 pack cassette from HMV recently from India.There are 74 songs in the pack and each song has a short introduction by MSV. TKR has a speech in the very beginning of cassette 1. MSV provides very nice insights into some of the songs.
I will try to post as many interesting intros as possible in this thread.
Responses:
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- From: SL (@ 63.253.226.215)
on: Thu Aug 3 02:55:15 EDT 2000
SK, just a couple of weeks ago I was talking to Srikanth about how G Ramanathan first in 1960 and then IR in the mid-eighties had used the metre of the Mahadevi hit (1957) lullaby, 'Singara....'. Coincidence!!
RV, 'Senthamizh thEn mozhiyaaL' has the opening line set to the same metre as 'Hue hum jinkE liyE barbaad' from Aan, sung by Rafi and the similarity ends there.
- From: SL (@ 63.253.226.215)
on: Thu Aug 3 03:07:47 EDT 2000
Karthi, ithE dedication unakku Powerbuilder,VB-la irunthirunthaa engeyO pOyiruppa :-))))
- From: rjay (@ 206.152.113.171)
on: Thu Aug 3 12:26:04 EDT 2000
SL,
ithE dedication namakku profession-layum,
business-layum irunthirunthaa nama ellam
engeyO pOyiruppOm :-))))
- From: SL (@ 198.95.226.224)
on: Thu Aug 3 14:31:20 EDT 2000
athaan yengEyO vanthu vittOm :-))) Dedication illaamayE
- From: kk (@ 207.0.105.143)
on: Thu Aug 3 23:58:06 EDT 2000
SL: hue hum jinke liye barbaad is from deedaar or meLaa. The duet (rafi & shamshad begum) from aan is -
mohabbat jhoome jinke saath
jawaani chaahe pade din raath
jeevan bar... jeevan bar
kisi ki yaad mein hum gaate rahenge
MSV-TKR have copied the basic tune (beat?) and changed the orchestration. KD made them do this even though a dubbed version of aan was released earlier in tamil and this song's tamil version became very popular.
Incidentally, anyone know what happened to the re-release/new version of the soundtrack of akbar (mughal-e-azam) that was to be released?
- From: SL (@ 63.253.226.40)
on: Sat Aug 5 04:42:13 EDT 2000
kk, thanks for the correction. The tempo and the santham for the pallavi have been lifted.
- From: RV (@ 24.12.35.27)
on: Sun Aug 6 05:17:31 EDT 2000
There is one bad thing about this collection. Seerkazhi is not well represented. I get a feeling that PBS is the favorite singer of MSV!
The underutilization of Seerkazhi is a major error on the part of MSV!
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185)
on: Sun Aug 6 11:03:28 EDT 2000
PBS "was" MSV's favorite singer.
- From: karthi (@ 63.21.182.238)
on: Tue Aug 8 00:57:09 EDT 2000
No MS, TMS was!
- From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109)
on: Tue Aug 8 03:18:37 EDT 2000
MS:
Karthi is right.
RV:
The underutilization of Seerkazhi is a major error on the part of MSV!..
I don't think so. I think Seerkazhi's voice was only
suited to certain types of songs.. for which he was,
in fact used well by MSV. His voice also didn't
fit well for any major actor.
- From: NOV (@ 161.142.1.6)
on: Tue Aug 8 03:45:10 EDT 2000
More imporatly, Sirgazhi didn't want to modulate his voice for any singer. :-)
- From: SG (@ 203.106.115.72)
on: Mon Aug 14 13:23:43 EDT 2000
MSV and TKK belonged to the era of MGR and Sivaji, where Gemini and SSR filled in, i.e. the 60s. TMS had already established himself as the playback singer for MGR and Sivaji early in that decade as his voice suited both of them and gave the illusion that the songs were actually sung by them. TMS's voice also suited SSR. Gemini of course was amply supported by AM Rajah and PBS.Under such circumstances it was no wonder that Sirgazhi evolved as the specialist singer for background songs.
- From: Amar (@ 146.174.250.100)
on: Tue Aug 15 14:25:12 EDT 2000
Keerthi:
Intha topic'ai ippozhuthaan naan padithein. Chennaikku irandu maatha vidumuraiyil chenru last weekthaan thirumbinein( evvalavu inimaiyaaga irunthathu; yenda thirumbinoam yenrirukkirathu )
Ithey 5-cassette collectionai naanum vaangi vanthullein but haven't gotten around to listening to the songs. Now, I am glad I was able to pick this one up.
Orey oru kelvi: Idaiyil yaaro, "MSVyin isaiyil veli vantu oru paattum sariyaaga amaiyaatha padam "en magan" yenru neenga sonnathaa" padithein. I was surprised. Enakku therinthu, "Sorgathil kattappatta Thothil, Yezhai Thunbathil Aadauthada Ingey" yenra arumaiyaan paadal "En Magan" padathilthanney? Athupoga innoru duet paattum nanraaga irukkum yenru ninaikkirein( which I don't remember ).
Matrapadi, "Naan Naattai Thiruthapporein, Antha Kottaiyai Pidikkapporein", "Soan Pappadi, Sonaa Pappadi, Paarthaal Eppadi, Saappittal Ippadi, Kannipponnin Vaayilvarum Thenaippola Inikkuthu" yenra vegu sumaaraana paadalgal anthappadathil iruppathu Unmai. Just wanted to clarify.
Matrapadi how is life?
Amar
- From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55)
on: Tue Aug 15 14:29:27 EDT 2000
Amar(evvaLavu naaLachu)
sorgathil kattapatta thottil-Mannavan vandhaanadi
padam(jivaji,manjus,jaisudha)
- From: fan (@ 216.190.255.35)
on: Tue Aug 15 15:30:22 EDT 2000
sk,
perfectly right,
seergazhi singing kadalika neramillai for
muthu raman was very odd.
sk do you have 1000'l oruvana video, if you have can you get the main theme music
r.d.b has lifted this in a hindi movie called SHAN.
Can you upload songs in mp3 format other than real audio. Download music match juke box you can record mp3 in CD quality.
if you need space dont worry I can host some on my servers. Let me know.
- From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109)
on: Tue Aug 15 21:00:03 EDT 2000
Amar:
Nice to see you here. I am fine. How are you? How are
family and friends? I can very much understand your
not wanting to come back from India feeling!
It will take some time for you to return back to
routine foreign life!
The movie I mentioned as having poor songs is
maganE kEL. (Many don't even know that
such a movie was released. It had SSR as the
hero. MDs: VR. Lyrics: Pattukottai K. It had
songs such as ARaRivil OraRivu out. If
you want I can encode this song and upload it
for you to laugh at.)
Yes, en magan has a couple of good songs..
ponnukkenna azhagu, poovukkenna perumai
neengaL aththanai pErum uththamarthAnA sollungaL
The movie was a remake of some Hindi movie and was
a flop.
fan:
I don't have 1000'l oruvan VCD. Can you send me
an email on mp3 etc.?
- From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109)
on: Wed Aug 16 09:44:30 EDT 2000
Amar:
Here is ARaRivil OraRivu outu...
http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/aararivil.ram
:-)))
- From: Amar (@ 146.174.250.100)
on: Wed Aug 16 13:33:26 EDT 2000
Ramki:
Aamaam, romba naalaachu. Ungalaiyum romba naala kaanoamey! I don't see any motivation to bring myself here as often as we all used to do. Yaaraavathu young TFMDFers paarthaal, "Intha old timersukku vera velaiyey kidaiyaathu, pazhankathai pesurathey velai" enbaargal. I certainly understand their sentiments too, but, we know how this forum used to be.
Matrpadi, how is life?
Anyway, thanks for the correction. I confused myself with "Enn Magan" and "Mannavan Vanthaanadi". In fact, I think, "Naan Naattai Thiruttapporein" is also from "MV", right? And, MV has the beautiful, "Kaathal Raajjiyam Yenathu" song, right?
Yes, Keerthi, the duet I was thinking about was "Ponnukkenna Azhaghu, Poovukkenna Perumai". Is that song by TMS, SJ or TMS, PS? When I think of the humming, I get reminded of SJ, but when I think of "Oru porul marai porul, ivalukku ilakkiyamey" line, I get reminded of PS? or is it VJ?
Yes, the other song, "Neengal Athanaipperum Uthamarthaanaa, Sollungal?" is a great song.
"Maganey Kel" kelvippattathey illai!!!
Family & Friends are fine. Even though I visit India once in 2 years and for 8 weeks, I never could feel satisfied. As soon as I came back, I am counting down to our next trip in 2 years. That's life. Where are you now, in India or in Singapore?
Have I mentioned before, ennudaiya wedding receptionukku, Katcheri pannikkoduthathu, MSV, LRE, et. al. Antha alavu, MSV meethu yenakku oru mariyaathai - JFYI.
Anyway, nice to talk to you both, Keerthi & Ramki. Hope this continues!
Take care,
Amar
- From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55)
on: Wed Aug 16 14:44:24 EDT 2000
Amar naan ingeye thana irukken but participate less in the discussion..well those days are gone:)
'kadhal rajyam enadhu' is a fabulous song but andha innoru pattai naan kettadhillai(naan nattai thiruthaporen)
ponnukkenne azhagu- TMS,PS
COngratulations on your marriage..MSV,LRE receptionukkaa kalakkunga. Btw how is LREs voice nowdays??andha pazhaiya thuruthuruppu innum irukkaa?
- From: NOV (@ 161.142.1.6)
on: Wed Aug 16 20:48:20 EDT 2000
Thuruthuruppu ille Ramki, rambam bam rambam :-)
(Sorry couldn't resist it!) :-))))))
- From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55)
on: Thu Aug 17 08:53:08 EDT 2000
NOV:))
thuruthurppule 'thuru' mathram irukkunnu solreengaLa?:))
- From: NOV (@ 161.142.1.6)
on: Thu Aug 17 21:00:28 EDT 2000
Ramki - :-)
I was watching Naadoadi (MGR/Saroja Devi) last night.
Getting LRE to sing Androaru naal athe nilavil was a royal waste by MSV. Fortunately there is a repeat of the same song, this time by TMS & PS, partly salvaging the song. :-)
(BTW, unlike other MGR movies, this movie was a good, meaning worthwhile, watch. Good songs too.)
- From: kk (@ 207.0.105.162)
on: Thu Aug 17 22:23:35 EDT 2000
Naadodi was the tamil version of magnificent obsession/something like that as I recall.
- From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109)
on: Thu Aug 17 22:34:25 EDT 2000
LRE-yai paththi kuRai solluRadhu NOV-kku alvA
sAppuduRa mAdhiri. :-)))
NOV:
I agree with your comment on androru nAL idhE
nilavil. Recently I posted many songs from
that movie in real audio. BTW, who comes as S. Devi's
sister in the movie (the one who MGR is in love
with, and who commits suicide in the movie)? Is it
Bharathi?
- From: NOV (@ 161.142.1.6)
on: Thu Aug 17 22:55:56 EDT 2000
kk - OIC.
Unlike most MGR movies, there was a concrete story. I attributed it to Banthulu actually. :-)
SK - sollavaa venum. :-)
BTW, I do like some of her songs, but only a selected few.
No, it was not Bharathi, it was a new face (arimugam endru poattirundhaargal) Sorry cannot remember her name. I saw KR Ramasamy in the credits (as in acting) Which character was his?
Also which song was writen by Vaali?
Which year was this movie released?
- From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.17)
on: Fri Aug 18 07:56:43 EDT 2000
NOV naanum bharathi nnu haan ninaichen?
Who sings 'ulagamengum ore mozhi' with MGR?
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