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Alavanthaan - ALAVILLAI

Topic started by Prayer (@ 172.188.120.235) on Tue Nov 13 15:31:52 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I had opportunity to watch the movie and was greatly disappointed with it. The BGM leaves a lot to be desired and frankly was a big reason for my lack of enthusiasm of this movie. Kamal has acted well but the story lacks overall and the song picturisations are very poor.
Now i shall have to await Nandha and hope it is a better production that this.
Thumbs down for Alavanthan

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• From: Normal Man (@ 202.12.144.21) on: Fri Nov 16 21:29:26 EST 2001
  
  UV --> You have a serious problem and an attitude dude. You go around in every thread and start bashing IR (and its Kamal now) and make the point "they are no good". All I can say is "my foot". These guys have done, achieved and taken the Indian movies to next level. Who cares and talks about them going to Hollywood. First we as people of India appreciate what hey have done, sans not degrading them with our comatose postings. Realize are we worthy enough to comment about them (in the way you are doing) just because you paid Rs.50 for a movie or a cassette. Know thyself..... before you post.
  
  
• From: Simran (@ 203.124.2.57) on: Fri Nov 16 23:59:32 EST 2001
  
  i thought that this forum was for TFM! why this discussion of screenplay and other stuff .... and to all thouse people out there who have big problems with IR, ARR, Kamal and so and so ... whatever the mistakes they make and how terribly they act or make music is none of your business .. you want to listen and watch, go ahead. Don't want, Shut your trap. If you're that smart, you'll be in their league or at least achieving something to that effect. All you people know how to do is to shoot your mouth off with criticism after criticism
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Sat Nov 17 11:26:30 EST 2001
  
  >>i thought that this forum was for TFM! why this discussion of screenplay and other stuff <<
  Well, I don't know..probably due to the same reason ur posting (or mine right now) has nothing to do wit tfm.
  
  >>you want to listen and watch, go ahead. Don't want, Shut your trap. <<
  If u want to take part in this forum, post ur views, criticise, discuss, argue, go ahead. Don't want, Shut your trap.
  
  >>If you're that smart, you'll be in their league or at least achieving something to that effect. <<
  You don't have to be a great cook to judge a dish, nor a great sportsman to decide if someone is playing well. You don't have to be a politician to judge if your country's leader is doing a good job. All it needs is some basic knowledge and common sense. And you don't know simran, if the people here have achieved anything or not. And just bcos u appreciate tfm and want to criticise doesn't mean u also have to be doing something along the league of an actor or md.
  
  >>shoot your mouth off with criticism after criticism<< Maybe u should stop doing that first.
  
  
  
  
• From: Simran (@ 203.124.2.59) on: Sun Nov 18 00:27:49 EST 2001
  
  Why not - why not you grow up first and read comments carefully? You misconstrued the posting.. no point arguing with you
  
  
• From: vijay anand (@ 203.197.156.35) on: Sun Nov 18 01:48:31 EST 2001
  
  i fully agree that this is a movie not made for the traditional audience for the heyram type.maybe kamal has made this movie for a set of audience who would contribute to making it run long.i was disappointed with the movie really but hats off to kamal for all the hardwork he has put in be it in acting,action sequences,technical stuff,...
  
  
• From: KavipPiriyan (@ 192.128.134.68) on: Sun Nov 18 23:08:00 EST 2001
  
  Aalavandhan is a mix of good and bad. The strong points are kamals acting and the storyline . But the picturisation, BGM and songs have spoiled the whole movie. The flash back on kamal's younger days are narrated well giving sufficient time, but when the psyco kamal character is introduced well, the scenes like psyco talking to the dead mother , dancing with girl on the street could have been avoided. The scene like kamal killing Manisha and the climax chase are overly lengthly making the viewer lose his/her patience. If you give a scene of blood-pool with dead body and ask kamal to weap,cry ,howl... kamal does it well. Yup. Hallmark of Kamal's movie. Shankar-Ehsan-Loy have a jarring effect on (ear) drums and have failed to impress with BGM also.
  Dialogue has flavors of VM like 'pasappi'
  
  
• From: siva (@ 210.186.221.172) on: Mon Nov 19 00:15:27 EST 2001
  
  the bgm is by mahesh
  
  
• From: RAVI (@ 210.212.242.226) on: Mon Nov 19 01:03:31 EST 2001
  
  HAI
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.131) on: Mon Nov 19 11:38:46 EST 2001
  
  Simran, u r right, there is no point in arguing wit anyone, especially when u did not have a point in the first place.
  Your posting was not very profound. It's quite ez to decipher your high handed posting. This is a free world where free speech is prevalent. So u don't have to come in and make ur rude comments like 'Shut your trap' just becos u don't like others giving their opinions about the subject being discussed. I know this (free speech) may take some getting used to, being from Spore. But keep trying.
  
  
• From: Al vs Rob (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Mon Nov 19 12:57:22 EST 2001
  
  "Kamal will not gain anything by moving to Hollywood where there are enough actors who can do and even more than what Kamal does "
  
  And yet, The Toronto International Film Festival Guide, seen as North America's premier film festival says 'Kamal Hasan is the one f the three finest actors working in the world today'
  
  I guess UV would argue the othe two are Al Pacino and Robin Williams.
  
  Jesus Christ said 'A prophet is never accepted by his own people'. I guess the same holds true for a 'gnani'
  
  
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.4) on: Mon Nov 19 13:26:32 EST 2001
  
  :) :)
  
  
  
• From: Simran (@ 203.124.2.59) on: Mon Nov 19 23:24:45 EST 2001
  
  WhyNot - you're really crap. I've seen your other postings in other forums and frankly, you're pretty rude ... likened someone elses FREE SPEECH to that of a baboon-brained thoughts, bull****, etc ... so who you trying to fool by criticising me? ... And don't make a pathethic attempt to seem smart by dragging Singapore into this - that is so stupid. And I did have a point - which i know you obviously didn't get and decided to find trouble with me. So stop this crap and go find touble with someone else like you are so fond of.
  
  
• From: rekha (@ 210.186.164.122) on: Tue Nov 20 01:01:33 EST 2001
  
  hai
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Tue Nov 20 01:11:39 EST 2001
  
  Simran, the posting about baboon was meant for :-) who had made such remarks about me in another thread and unless u read that posting too, u wouldn't understand why I made those comments, as it was an indirect way of answering his/her earlier comments. If u read on, u'll notice he/she was pleased to see that his/her earlier posting and had got me agitated and called it a posting on my brain very proudly.
  I certainly wasn't trying to find trouble with u, and was just offended to read ur posting which seemed to put down everyone who had something to say in this forum.
  
  
• From: shysun (@ 203.199.203.194) on: Tue Nov 20 02:07:47 EST 2001
  
  whynot simran whoelse says this kamal is sick so is the film
  
  
• From: shysun (@ 203.199.203.194) on: Tue Nov 20 02:13:27 EST 2001
  
  Few months back,i posted during the music release that this film is going to fail miserably,so it has =no surprises or disappointments ,gone are the times when kamal wanted to please his audiences -now he wants to please himself hence he can better make "HOME VIDEOS AND NOT CINEMA ANY MORE,MY HUMBLE VIEW,CINEMA SUCCEEEDS WHEN WE LIKE IT ,NOT WHEN THE MAKERS WISH IT".SHYSUN
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ 203.106.58.77) on: Tue Nov 20 02:27:51 EST 2001
  
  Kamal had proved well in alavanthan. The lack of technology in india had been an obstacle to this movie. Kamal had acted very well, especially as nandu. No other actor can perform like him, you can see the drastic change in his figure, where vijay was small and nandu was enormous. Great kamal, he's going to prove and bring the whole tamil film industry to its peak. No doubt.
  
  
• From: g mauruthi (@ 203.197.156.66) on: Tue Nov 20 04:52:07 EST 2001
  
  Alavandhan is a great movie
  
  KAMAL is the BEST
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 212.138.47.16) on: Tue Nov 20 13:38:23 EST 2001
  
  Kamal is Best. No doubt.
  Technology used very well in Aala.. . No doubt.
  Raveena and Manisha - showed as much. No doubt.
  But,
  Stroy is of 1947 type. No doubt.
  Screenplay is pathetic. No doubt.
  Music is horrible. No doubt.
  Totally, it is a flop. No doubt.
  
  ( For Kalaipuli Thaanu, Better luck next time.)
  ( For Kamal, sir, Pammal Sambantham readyaaa?
  Oru sincere flop, then one mega masala)
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230) on: Tue Nov 20 14:07:09 EST 2001
  
  Ravi,
  "Oru sincere flop"
  
  Where is sincerity?
  
  
• From: seeyan (@ 129.42.208.144) on: Tue Nov 20 14:41:13 EST 2001
  
  "Stroy is of 1947 type. No doubt.
  Screenplay is pathetic. No doubt. "
  
  
  do you mean to say that the movies that are hits have these. more than 50 % do not . These are crappy reasons given once you know that the film is not going with the masses.
  
  even if kamal starts to make films like vanathapola, then only we will feel his absence.there should be somebody to take films like these and luckily we have kamal . be happy for that.
  his efforts will be felt maybe 10 years from now. There are so many people to please the feel-nice movies. Please let tamil cinema to improve...
  
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.131) on: Tue Nov 20 15:16:12 EST 2001
  
  I haven't seen Aalavanthan yet. But I can see both sides of the argument for and against him.
  His good points include innovation, the guts to try something new and different and of course, pure talent.
  On the negative side, he tends to bring in irrelevant sex scenes, and I think he has too many strong ideas which he should leave to the real experts. Like Maniratnam is famous for taking suggestions from anyone including the spot boy. And his main talent is in bringing out the talents in other people. So when all the team members pitch in their best, the end product is excellent. I think kamal tries to dictate too many things even if he doesn't have the specialised experience or expertise. Like everyone hoo-haa'ed the way he had planned every smallest detail of Hey Ram (b4 it was released and proved to be a flop). Yet maybe, he should have let others decide the smallest detail while concentrating on wat he is really good at.
  All said, i think kamal should stop trying to prove something and just follow his heart, which I hope he will do for Marudanayagam.
  And I thought Hey Ram was excellent but had room for improvement in making it more palatable for the average audience.
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230) on: Tue Nov 20 15:34:45 EST 2001
  
  WhyNot,
  "His good points include innovation, the guts to try something new "
  
  There is no innovation in adapting to "Kollywood/Bollywood" from Hollywood.
  
  "I think kamal tries to dictate too many things even if he doesn't have the specialised experience or expertise."
  
  I think Kamal should be aware of his shortcomings and concentrate on his strengths.He can surely make(I would prefer just act) much better films.
  
  BTW, I would like to know what Kamal tries to do to our culture in terms of sex.Is he showing obscenity and exploiting the viewers or is he trying to bring more awareness(!) in sex by teaching us something?
  
  

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