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Everything you always wanted to talk about ARR vs. IR but were afraid..

Topic started by rajaG (@ daecfp01.sprint.com) on Wed Aug 18 17:12:52 EDT 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Too many posters are using other topics to discuss/slam/comment/praise IR/ARR that I thought we could use this one thread as a catch all for all those posts. Welcome guys!!!

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• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.76) on: Fri Sep 3 17:30:38 EDT 1999
  
  Srikanth,
  I feel it would be better if u would list down your 10 points as quickly as possible, otherwise this thread is going to digress into side-topics and we are going to miss the actual thing.
  
  
• From: anand (@ du139-20.cc.iastate.edu) on: Sat Sep 4 01:29:38 EDT 1999
  
  point 6 could be debated Though i am a hardcore ir fan
  
  
• From: Dr. S.K. Vadivel (@ klunderlab1.sci.kun.nl) on: Sat Sep 4 10:02:02 EDT 1999
  
  Dear Friends,
  IL always better than AR
  IL music mesmerises everyone, but AR music is technically perfect
  IL music, you can hear them in even old transisters, you can enjoy. But AR music you need a hi-fi system to enjoy
  
  
• From: sandya (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Tue Sep 7 11:28:58 EDT 1999
  
  dr.vadivelu is very right, arr's music appeals only with hi-fi systems, not elsewhere.
  thats a tragedy in a country like india where majority are poor.more than everything availability is important.
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Sep 8 22:17:03 EDT 1999
  
  kavi bhAsA probably was a great mathematician. he realized that counting was just a mapping on to integers. he therefore mapped kALidhAsa to the cuNdu viral. the next viral is called anAmikA. likewise, "movements in bgms"-kku aduththu anAmikA thAn pOla!!
  
  take it easy.
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.primus.com.au) on: Thu Sep 9 05:25:07 EDT 1999
  
  DR.SKV
  Can you please explain what is meant by `IR always better than AR'? On what grounds would you say that your staement is correct.
  Qulity of sound is proportionate to a numberof things such as playing equipment and listening equipment.I can't see how IR music would sound better than AR music in an OLD TRANSISTER!
  If IR music mesmerises,I'm sure AR music would make you tap your feet(of course if you are impartial to IR OR AR)
  
  SANDYA
  
  Poor nation is the one that blasted nucler bombs and is also the nation that produces the most number of movies in the world.I think an average family would be able to afford a reasonably good music system.
  This in no way justifies to say IR music is better than AR music..
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.primus.com.au) on: Thu Sep 9 05:37:27 EDT 1999
  
  Correction
  
  TRANSISTER should read as TRANSISTOR
  
  Also the most expensive wedding(?in the world) was also in the poor nation-particularly in Madras (Chennai).
  
  
• From: JJ_Fan (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Thu Sep 9 13:18:34 EDT 1999
  
  ... and the mother of the bridegroom of that expensive wedding is an ARR fan:-)))))
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ mail.startec.net) on: Thu Sep 9 14:01:45 EDT 1999
  
  ...and the reception light music for that same wedding was provided by ARR (who faced harassment from CBI after that for his association with that wedding !!!)
  
  
• From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Thu Sep 9 16:12:48 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath,
  
  Was ARR questioned by CBI for providing the reception light music? Can you provide some more details? Actually at that time, in Junior Vikatan, they published an article on this and said that "who else in TN can afford for ARR to provide light music for a reception except for JJ?"
  
  
• From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Thu Sep 9 16:16:31 EDT 1999
  
  Was the harassment because of the doubt that ARR must have been paid a huge sum for providing the light music or something else?
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ mail.startec.net) on: Thu Sep 9 16:31:19 EDT 1999
  
  Yes, it was because it was rumoured that ARR received black money from JJ. When he denied it, the junk media claimed that ARR was threatened to play ! Panam vaanginaalum thappu, vaangalainaalum thappu :-) I remember reading that ARR was troubled for a couple of days but it didn't blow up into anything big.
  
  
• From: maithu (@ dynamic5.pm03.san-jose.best.com) on: Thu Sep 9 18:34:37 EDT 1999
  
  is this topic 'ARR VS IR' or 'ARR VS JJ:ARR VS CBI'?yaaravadhu sollungappa...Adhu nadandhu mudindha kadhai, please thodangiya pirachanaikku vaarungal.
  
  
• From: Kooththan (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com) on: Thu Sep 9 20:43:58 EDT 1999
  
  Maithu, yethukku saar ARR vs IR war-a-paththi remind seyyareenga?
  
  
• From: Kalaiyarasi (@ scctn03.sp.edu.sg) on: Fri Sep 10 03:28:22 EDT 1999
  
  IR have hailed as the best music director for solid 20 years....who can beat his record....even now when u hear the 80's songs...it's fantastic. i don't think AR can stay long like IR....when there are so many new music directors coming up.
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.primus.com.au) on: Fri Sep 10 07:14:46 EDT 1999
  
  Correction
  
  Qulity should read as Quality
  Transister should be Transistor
  
  Also the most expensive wedding(? in the world) was held in the poor nation-particularly in Chennai.....Some poor Nation!!
  
  
• From: Pala (@ proxy.primus.com.au) on: Fri Sep 10 08:33:34 EDT 1999
  
  Kalaiyarsi
  Is your prediction of ARR will not last long a professional opinion?
  I can only sympathise with your short sightedness.
  In my view IR is the bridging factor between the old songs era and the presnt era.One needs only to compare the music of 50's/60's and70's/80's and the 90's to see the transition.
  From my observations the younger generation of Tamizlians(especially the one living in Western countries)seem to drop out of listening Tamizl songs.But,this situation started to take a turn with ARR music(along with Prabu Deva dance).The eye opener being the movie Gentleman.
  Of course there are other MDs who are equally good-such as DEVA for folk/comedy songs.
  I think ARRs skills of mixing eastern and western music should not be underestimated...I see this blending as winning back the dropouts of Tamil music listeners.
  
  Anyway I think this thread should not have started as IR VS ARR.They should have started seperate thread for each to evaluate each's qualities and skills.
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.62) on: Fri Sep 10 11:18:57 EDT 1999
  
  Dear Pala,
  
  GENTLEMAN - an eyeopener !!!!
  
  "velakkennai"
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Fri Sep 10 11:58:00 EDT 1999
  
  Madhan - though your statement is not agreeable, I must accept that it is one of the most comical I have seen in DF ! (velakkannai is indeed an eye -opener :-))
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.73) on: Fri Sep 10 12:29:20 EDT 1999
  
  what happened to srikanth's 10 points? where is he?
  
  
• From: Karthik Subramanian (@ sagramolapc.cc.bellcore.com) on: Fri Sep 10 12:44:33 EDT 1999
  
  Srikanth does it all the time. Whenever he needs an ego boost, he would put some crap and then vanish.
  
  
• From: Li Li La La (@ proxy2.ericy.com) on: Fri Sep 10 12:59:32 EDT 1999
  
  Puli varuthu....puli varuthu
  
  
• From: Clarification , (@ 206.139.13.152) on: Fri Sep 10 15:48:29 EDT 1999
  
  guys,
  Srikanth has left chicago, he is heading for seattle, I called and spoke to him asking the 10 points. He said to me he will post it as soon has he moves to seattle and settles down.
  
  
  bTW:"Srikanth does it all the time. Whenever he needs an ego boost, he would put some crap and then vanish. " --
  
  btw he does not hatch eggs at home, he as work load which I know pretty well. Never under estimate anyone...do not make it a personal issue. as far as I know Srikanth is cool and soft spoken guy personally,
  
  None of the IR fans were able to come up with facts, he is just waiting for some the great IR fans here who just do not know what IR has done to tfm.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: TFM_Fan (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Fri Sep 10 17:27:57 EDT 1999
  
  Mr.K a.k.a. Clarification,
  
  Well said. I too don't agree with Karthik Subramaniam's statement on Srikanth. But, please look at what you have written :
  
  > None of the IR fans were able to come up with
  > facts, he is just waiting for some the great IR
  > fans here who just do not know what IR has done
  > to tfm.
  
  Why do you have to make this statement generalizing all IR fans? There are lot of ignorant fans (like me) who don't know what IR has done new to TFM and at the same time we are eager to know what he has done. IR enna pudhusa pannittaarunnu theriyaama avarukku fana irukka koodaadha? Besides that, why is Srikanth waiting for the 'great' IR fans to answer his question when he (and you) know that they don't know what IR has done new to TFM.
  
  
• From: Kooththan (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com) on: Fri Sep 10 18:01:28 EDT 1999
  
  Mr.Kuzhappam ippo Clarification-a. Yenna kuzhappam -pa ithu
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Fri Sep 10 20:47:48 EDT 1999
  
  no wonder the communists were dead against the "intellectuals"!!
  
  
• From: idhu thaan uNmai (@ ts001d33.cha-il.concentric.net) on: Fri Sep 10 22:15:49 EDT 1999
  
  no wonder the communists were dead:-)
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ proxy2-external.moline1.il.home.com) on: Fri Sep 10 23:52:45 EDT 1999
  
  Guys,
  I just found a terminal, I will post it soon, I AM SORRY i am moving to seattle,
  kumar called me (aka Mr.k) I told him I will post it soon, I also told BB about this, btw; BB is a great poet, he has written a wonderful lyric for my score.
  
  >"None of the IR fans were able to come up with
  > facts, he is just waiting for some the great IR
  > fans here who just do not know what IR has done
  > to tfm. "
  
  --- I did not tell this , it is Kumar's idea
  
  See u guys soon.
  
  
• From: Ravi K. S. Ravichandran (@ pub-dial3.aclis.utah.edu) on: Fri Sep 10 23:53:37 EDT 1999
  
  Hi guys:
  
  I recently watched "Kadhalar Thinam" during my trip to India. I was surprized to see a background score which sounded very similar, at places, to IR's background score in movies. What I mean is that composing backgroud score following the style of chamber music, with a few violins, chells and other peripherals. I noticed this distinctly in this movie, since I have never heard (may be I missed) ARR composing in the chamber orchestra style in any other movie. All I had heard (Roja, Gentleman, Uyirae etc.) was some clever use of organs and other electronic gadgetry. Has anyone out there noticed this ?
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Sat Sep 11 17:00:22 EDT 1999
  
  Mr./Ms. idhu dhAn uNmai,
  
  a correction to your statement!
  
  of course no wonder the communists were dead! :-))
  
  take it easy.
  
  

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