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bollywood vs kollywood!!!

Topic started by shwetha (@ 219.65.96.58) on Wed Jan 1 23:26:33 EST 2003.
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I feel the Hindi audience, these days, is totally tasteless...seeing the kind of movies made in bollywood! They seem so unbelievably idiotic. And the music...even worse!!! Even lagaan and devdas, i feel were not as great as they claimed they were. Definitely not Oscar caliber :O When Lagaan was nominated for Oscar... we had pop-ups on MSN saying "Ask Spielerg to watch Lagaan"!!!! I mean idhellam konjam over-aa therialay??!! All the Hindi movies ever have is standard-aa one family bzness and a wedding and a holiday some place like NZ, Swiss et al. Tamil movies are far far better in content and music and everything. What do u say?

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• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.1.195) on: Mon Mar 1 14:34:42 EST 2004
  
  IR mattum ingu yaetho kolgai veeran endro avar pannattu niruvangalukku ethiraaga kadumayana porathai nigazhthi kondirukiraar endro naan solvathaaga karapanai seithu kolla vendam. Aanaal oppitalavil avar innum intha porulaathaara soolalil sikkundu vidavillai enbadhai avar nadavadikaigal kattiyam koorugindrana. Avarathu isai innum intha mann matrum makkal saarnthathagavae irupaadaal mattumae naangal avarai kondadugindrom.
  Tamizh adayaalam enbadhu saterathaazha 3000 aandigalaai palvaeru thaakangalukku utpattu vantha pozhuthum, thanakaana kalachara adayalathai mutrum tholaithu vidatha oru samoogamaga irukirathu. yaenaya kalacharangalukku ethiraaga allamal iyalbilaeyae matra inthiya inangalai vida murpoakaana samoogamagavae irunthu vanthullathu. Intha samoogam eppozhuthum nallavaigalai yaetru allavaigalai niraagarithu vanthulalthu. Enavae neengal nalla vishayangal namakku kidaikaamal poi vidumo endru achaam kolla thaevai illai. Kaadhalar dhinathai poatrum athae nerathil namathu kaadhalai vyabaaramaakkum ulagamayamaathal kalachaarathai ethirpom. meendum kiruku thanamaaga kaetkka vendaam ARRin isaiyai yaetru athu vyabaaramaavathai matrum ethirkka koodatha endru. mudiyaathu yaen enil avarin isaiyin thanmayae vyabaarathirkaaga uroovaakkapattathu thaan. Uthaarnamaaga 60 galil matrum 70 galil Amerikka karupinathavarkaana viduthalai osaiyaai olitha Hip-hop matrum Rap vagai isaigal pinnatkalil pannattu niruvanangalin thaakoothalukutpattu indru kaliveri nadanathirkaana oar isayaai matram petra pin avagai isaiyai karupina poraligal niraagarikka thuvangi vittaragal. Irandu vazhigal undu ondru inniruvangalidam irunthu thangalathu isayai viduvithu meendum makkalukkana viduthalai isai meetuvathu allathu veru vagayana isaiyai thangalathu viduathalikku kandedupathu. Avargal irandaam vazhiyai thaerntheduthaaragal.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.1.195) on: Mon Mar 1 14:35:19 EST 2004
  
  Ingum naam oru sila vazhigalai thaervu seiyum kattayathil ullom. Ini ungal virupam. Paran kooruvathu pol 'unga amma vacha sambhar unakku pidikkum, enga amma vacha sambhaar enakku pidikkum' endru kooruvathaayinum - satraa sinthithu paarka vendugiraen avar amma vaikkum sambhaaro enathu amma vaikkum sambhaaro nandra illaiyenil engal iruvar vayitrukku mattumae prachanai. athu oru vivadhathuku uriya porul aagathu. aanal oru kalyaana veetil vaikkum saambhaar sari illaiyenil athu prachanai aagirathu. seithi aagirathu. yaen enil athu sabaikku vanthu vittathu. ARRum avarukku piditha isaiyai avar veetil utkaarnthu kondu amaithu kollalaam. neengal avarukku miga nerungiyavar endral neengalu avar illam sendru ungalukku piditha isaiyai pagirnthu kollalaam. aanal athu samoogathin munn padaikkapadum bodhu vimarsanathukku utpaduthi paarkirom. saambhaar udanae allathu adutha naal kalayil kaati kuduthu vidum, nallatha kettatha endru. Isaiyin aga matrum pura thaakangalai ariya neenda naatkal aagum.
  IRin magan aagi vittadhaal mattumae YSR ai naan kutram kooravillai endru ninathaal athu ungalathu purithalil ulla kolaaru. YSRum kandikkapada vaendiyavare. aanal ARR miga athigamana oru kalachaara thaakoothalai nadathuvathaal avarai vanmayaaga kandikirom avvalavae.
  Pizza, car, computer, breakdance, jeans anaithum varaverkapadum namathu kalacharathil ullathai vida avai uyarvaanavai endra mogathayum, matrum avai ulagamayamaakalin vilaivai nam meedhu thinikkapaduvathayum kandipom.
  Periyaar vyathi alla nam samooga vyathi theerkka vantha maruthuvar. matra inthiya maanilangalil ozhikapadatha paeyarukku pinnal jaathi serkkum pazhakathai oppitalavil tamizhagathil ozhithu kattiyathil avarin matrum dravida iyakathin pangu magathaanathu. Melum jathiyin irukkathai thalarthiya thani perum thalaivanai kannadarai irupinum thamizhar thanthayai potri vanangugirom.Ithu thamizhargalin jananayaga paanginai kattum matrum oar uthaaranam Neengal nandri solla vittalum paravaillai kochai padutha vaendaam.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.1.195) on: Mon Mar 1 15:14:36 EST 2004
  
  Melum,
  
  naan tholai pesiyil naangainthu aandugalukku munn Hello endrum, nadrikku badhil thankyou endrum solli kondirunthaen. Enatha thavarai unarntha pin thiruthi kollum muyachiyil ullaen. valinthu ippozthuellam nandri matrum vanakkm koora pazhagikondu irukiraen. enathu en thevai pattal kudikiraen muyirchithu paarungal pathil 5 muraiyavathu vankkam solliyae thuvangugiraen. 10il 10 murayum naan vanakkam solvatharkkul neengal irandu murayavathu solli viduveergal endru nanbugiraen.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.202.241) on: Tue Mar 2 01:28:44 EST 2004
  
  Rajasaranam,
  I can't agree many things about the thoughts you expressed in your posts.
  
  Oru verupu, ARR methu ungaluku ullathu, atharkaka nengal sayam posi Veveru konankalil pesukirerkal.
  
  As you're entitled for your personal likes and dislikes, so are others, and i strongly don't agree that IR was completle saving grace of tamil heritage.
  I have already pointed out in my previous posts, Cinema is a Vyabaram so when IR can give Kalaigyan, Anjali - i can't be listing out all his albums of this genre as the list would go big.
  And i don't want to talk about the benifits of globalization here, as it is obivious.
  "YSR kandikapadvendiyavar than" ARR mela iruntha karam ingu ellaiye, Yuvan 5 - 6 varushama album pannarar, infact Yuvan is more westernized than ARR, but he doesn't click all the times.
  But kolkai is different from popularity, next time you be agaisnt ARR, yuvan, HJ and Deva.
  infact i read in some post HJ vs ARR or yuvan vs ARR you said Yuvan and harris are giving good music.
  Quite a contradiction.
  Its evident you don't like ARR and the success he achieved, open ah Anti ARR statements kodukalamey?
  Apparam ethuku intha kolkai, movement etc etc
  There may be many people like me who listen to good music whoever be the MD, your love for a MD should be a constraint to your love for good Music.
  Ungalai mara solvathu, matruvathu en nokkam ellai, ennalum mudiyathu, aanal nengal onru seyalam, ARR thread thedi kandupidichu ask him to pronounce "Vande mataram" properly appadi nu sollivduvathodu nirkamal, Ungaluku Kolkai thane mukkiyam, Yuvan, HJ oda western touches and influences patriyum ethiruthu pesungal. There we might find a consitency, as of now i am really sorry to say i find none there and its made up.
  15 years back there'd be arguments in my school whenever a Rajni and kamal film was launched, Rajni fans will bad mouth kamal and vice-versa, anyways now you and i are too old for such silly things (i am 25, guess you must be around that age too) athai vitutu summa oruthare bad mouth pannrathu is not correct.
  Athuku pongal pannai mari vitham vithamana sayam posi sugar coat panni pesarathu will lead only endless arguments.
  if you say boyaku boyaku sha in KK sei is westernized then i'd quote Skies are green and cloudy in Aanda kuilin pattu, this will lead only to a deadlock :) And that's not great to TFM forum, my humble opinion.
  Jacky.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.14) on: Tue Mar 2 01:54:35 EST 2004
  
  Jacky,
  
  naan tholai pesiyil naangainthu aandugalukku munn Hello endrum, nadrikku badhil thankyou endrum solli kondirunthaen. Enatha thavarai unarntha pin thiruthi kollum muyachiyil ullaen. valinthu ippozthuellam nandri matrum vanakkm koora pazhagikondu irukiraen. enathu en thevai pattal kudikiraen muyirchithu paarungal pathil 5 muraiyavathu vankkam solliyae thuvangugiraen. 10il 10 murayum naan vanakkam solvatharkkul neengal irandu murayavathu solli viduveergal endru nanbugiraen.
  Kalayil intha vaara ananda vikatan paditha pinbu melum enathu karuthukkalai parimaari kolla ninaikiraen.
  Vairamuthivin paetiyil avar kooriyathai ungalukku valangugiraen "ethir kolla pogum aandugalil arivujeevigalin kadamai athigamagavirukirathu. ulagamayamaathal endra porulaathaara boothathin perumpasikku sila nadugalodu mozhigalum iraiyaagalaam endru anjapadugirathu. 2063 - vaakkil ulaga mozhigalil ainthae ainthu lipigal matumthaan thappithu vazhum endra aayvu nammai anja vaikirathu.
  ungal thaaimozhi minjumaa endra kelvikkana vidaigalai ella mozhigalum ippothirunthae thayaarithaaga vendum. antha yuga santhiyil padaipaaligal theervu solgiraargala endru samoogam ethirpaarkum."
  Nalalthu thaamathamagavaenum unarthu konda VMkku nandri solvom. oar murai ARR in varavukku pinnar avar koorinaar "munbu tamizh padalgalil moochu vida siramapattathu indru ARRin paadalgalil athu suthanthiramai swasikirathu" endru. IR in mettukku paatu ezhuthum than velaiyayum, mettukku paattu endra IR in pidivathathayum, ARR VMin kavithaikku mettai matri amaithu vazhivittadhayum oppu nokkiyae ivvaru idithuraithaar enbadhu arithanthae. Pin vantha aandugalil medayil vaithu ARRidam avar sonnaar "ungal isaiyin sathathil tamizh kaanaamal poi vidugirathu satru tamizhaiyum kavaniyungal endru". IR kudukum santhathil kavi punaya mudiyaathaa VMkku? tamizh avalavu negizhvuthanmai atradha enna? Avar kavithaigal IRin Isai enum simmasaanathil amarthiruntha arasan pol irunthathu. Parithaabamai ARR idam sikkundu kooru podapattadhu. Ulaga mayamakkalin Isai panpugal entha paava punniyamum paarpathillai endru avar purinthu kondaal sari. Mozhi patri avar akkaraipadum athae neram Isai patriyum akkarai seluthuvaaraga!
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.14) on: Tue Mar 2 01:55:31 EST 2004
  
  anthasthu matrum Panam tharum sugaboga vazhnilai enum thaaraga mandhirathil mayangugireergal. Naalondrukku 14-15 mani nera uzhaippil ungal oyvu neram kalavaadapattadhu theriyuma? Oyvil Isai rasikalaam endraal angum ungalai nugarvoraakki pinam thinna varungindra inniruvanangalai ariveergala? Ungal udamai, udal, manam evayum ungal sontham illai enbathu theriyuma? Uzhaiyungal, oothiyam perungal, athayum engalukkae thiruppi kudungal endra avargalin aanaikku kattupatta bombaigal aagi poneergal enbathai ariveergala? Ithil naan suthanthiramaga ulaen matrum mudivugalai naan thaan edukiraen endra ennam mattumae ungal sontha. Matrix-il varum kanvulagam poilavae ullathu ivvaazhvu.
  Ungalai sutri padarum intha moga matrum kalipukkaana vilambarangalai paarungal.Avai kadaiveedhiyil atheethamaana oppanayodu ungalai koovi alaikum vibacharagalai othirupathai gavanikka thavaraatheergal. ARRin isaiyai sandhai paduthi namakku koovi virkum anugumurayai kavaniyungal. Nammai adimuttalgalaga avai sitharippathai kaviyungal. Sify valaithalathil oar seithi 'ARRin Boys olinaadakkal 2 latcham prathigal virpanai' -ubayam:5Star Audio endrirupathayum. Adutha naal, Seithi thaalgalil vantha vilambarathil 'ARRin Boys olinaadakkal 2 latcham prathigal virpanai'- ubayam:sify.com endrirupathayum oppu nokki ethu unmai endru kandupidikka muyalungal. Oru vatta sularchiyil sikki thaveepeergal.Adutha naal ithu seithi aagirathu. Melum makkal ivalavu vitra isaiyil yaetho irukum endru olinaadakkal vangugiraargal! Kuppayai kooda kopuramaaki nammidam vitru vidum intha sathigalai arivulla entha manithanum yaerkka mudiyaathu.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.14) on: Tue Mar 2 01:56:16 EST 2004
  
  Muthalil kaetapodhu pudikala aana poga poga nalla irukku endru ARRin isai patri avar rasigargal kooruvathai sevimadungal.Malathin naatram kooda namakku poga poga pazhagi vidum thaane. atharkaaga malam soozhntha araiyil vasikalamaa?Ulaga pozhuthupokku thozhil sendra pathaandugalil petrulla valarchiyai nokkungal.Intha thozhilil kodi katti parapathu 4-5 niruvanangal mattumae enbadhai amranthu vidaartheergal. Pozhuthai pokkuvathu enbadhu oru kadamayaai maari ponathu ungal manathirkku uraikavillaiya?
  Poaraadungal ennai paarthu nagaitheergal.Intha Vivaadha thalathil enadhu karuthukkalai munnvaipadhum kooda poaratta vazhimuraithaan.Melum ARRin isaiyai paranthupatta makkal niraagarikka thuvangi 2-3 aandugal aagivittana.Koodiya viraivil tamizh mannilirunthu 5-6 aandugalukku munnar Pop isainaadakkal virattiyadikkapattathai poalvae ARRum virattiyadikkapaduvaar. Ingu endrum IRin isai matrum avar isaiamaippu murai matumae koloachum. Deva,VS,Barathwaj, pondra matra isaiamaipaalargalum IRin isaiamaippu baanikku thirumbi kondirupathai neengal innum unara villai enil, ennal ungal meethu parithaabapada mattumae mudiyum.'Alice in the wonderland'il varum poonai maraintha pinbum minji nirkum athan sirippin bimbam polavae ARRin bimbam ingu nizhaaldugirathu. Tamizh mannil irunthu antha bimbamum maraiyum kaalam vegu tholaivil illa.
  
  

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