Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.9)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:49:56 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12C
168. Ponna porandhava - Radhaikketra Kannan – SPB - KVM
VJ: Ponna porandhava engo oru naal pogapporava machachane
Macchanae—o--machchanae
SPB:Yengo ennadi adiyae sittu, enakkum unakkum vechaanae
Vechaanae-vechanaae
VJ: Ayyo paavam athai pillai
aasai valaiyil vizhundhaachu--
SPB:Adhilae vizhundhaal valiyaedhamma
adiyillamal ezhundhaachu!
VJ: Aasai paartha theerathu
SPB:Appadi chonna pothaathu
VJ: Aasaiyai paaru-- adhukkulae yetho kanakkaiyum pottachu
Machchaanae---o machchaanae
SPB:Kannilae pudichu nenjilae pottu
gappunnu adaichae sarithaano
VJ: Ponnunga nenachaa singathakkooda
pudaivaya pottu pudikkathao
SPB:Thaaliyai pottuttu paarthukkuraen
VJ: Tharisa naanum serndhukkiraen
SPB:Mookukkayirai podappogum aanpillai naan thaanae
Naan thaanae—--naanthaanae
Any doubt that these songs are lifts from their Telugu originals vanishes while listening to this song, for there’s a short bit of humming in the first interlude, and the female voice for this humming sounds suspiciously like PS (who must have sung the Telugu original with SPB)!!
To listen to this song, click here:
http://in.f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/nat_saravanan/vwp2?.tok=bcldn5RBAUG6EboO&.dir=/&.dnm=ponna.mp3&.src=bc
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.9)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:51:28 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12D
169. Aadungal paadungal – Radhaikketra Kannan – SPB & chorus - KVM
SPB:Aadungal paadungal
Amman peril paattu paada koodungal
VJ: Athaipponnu vandhalaa-
maman ponnu vandhaala
endhapponnu vandhaalum
indhapponnu aavaalaa?
VJ: Maangalyam yaaralae
Kungumamum yaaralae
Manjal vandhadhaaraalae
Thaayaalae-- Thaayaalae
SPB:Andhapakkam ponaalum
indhappakkam ponaalum
Annaippotta saalaiyil thaan
Pogonum-- vaazhonum
VJ: Kanniranja purushanaiyum ava thandha
SPB:Ice vechi nice panni kaathal panna iva vandhaa
VJ: Aasai irukku manasoda
anbu irukku kannoda
pasam irukku nenjoda
Podhaadho-- ponnu vaazha
SPB:Maman veettu Mariamma
Idhu sami senja velaiyamma
Kannukkullae nikkudhaadi
Andhakalam-- indhaneram
VJ:Katti katti pudichathellaam vittu pochaa
SPB:Nee yengae naan engae paaradi vaayadi
VJ: Ammanoda arul venum
aayulukku vara venum
ponnporulum perugonam
sugamaaga--- padhamaaga
SPB:Bhakthiyoda kettaalae
alli alli tharuvaale
Sakthi ulla thaai thaandi
nam amma--- ponnamma
VJ: Kannagikku thangachi naan thaanae
en karppinai nee paarthaye sarithaane
SPB:Pona jenmam kannagi
Indha jenmam ennadi
Seems to be a grand Thiruvizha song, chorus voices and all.
To listen to this song, click here:
http://in.f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/nat_saravanan/vwp2?.tok=bcldn5RBzeVIR_K3&.dir=/&.dnm=aadungal.mp3&.src=bc
I have not dwelt at length on these songs, for I have to admit that they are not are not very impressive. One would expect much more from a veteran like KVM. Though SPB and VJ try valiantly to salvage the proceedings, the singularly unimaginative lyrics and equally uninspiring music puts paid to their efforts. Perhaps KVM and Pugazhenthi were hard pressed for time and were coerced into copying their Telugu tunes—
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.9)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:53:56 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12E
I know I said that we have completed the list of VJ’s songs for MSV in 1978. Well, I was mistaken in my belief… Recently, while idly going through my music collection, I discovered two more songs that VJ sang for MSV in 1978. Hope you all will forgive me for this lapse.
Let us now look at these songs-
170. Oorai thiruththa oru pillai- Vandikkaran Magan- Seergazhi S Govindarajan,
Kovai Soundararajan- MSV
We have in an earlier chapter talked about the lovely ‘Medaiyil aadidum melliya poonktraatrae’ SPB-VJ duet from this film. As discussed, Poompuhar Productions’ Vandikkaran Magan starred Jaishankar, Jayachitra, Rojaramani, Ashokan and others.
The other songs in the film are ‘Paduththaal, purandaal, urakaamillai’-SPB & Ramola, ‘Oru pakkam neruppu’-LRE and ‘Nadagam nadakkuthu naatiley’-TMS.
Kovai Soundararajan has sung the last part of the song. His real name is Chinnasami Srinivasan. When Aringnar Anna heard him sing in a programme in Coimabatore, he renamed him as Kovai Soundararajan, as his voice bore a striking similarity to TMS. KS struggled for opportunities, as while TMS himself was still going strong, there were very few takers for a TMS clone. However MSV, Vijayabhaskar and S-G gave him some memorable songs, and KS made the most of them. Songs like ‘Engaladhu bhoomi kaakka vandha sami’-Neethi, ‘Jambulingamae jadaathara’ and ‘Mella pesungal’- both from Kaasethaan Kadavulada, ‘Indha naal nalla naal’-Aasirvaatham, ‘Kadavul potta kanakku’-Maalai Soodavaa, ‘Aanjaneya Anumanthayya’-Kaasi Yaathirai, ‘Sonpappdi sonappapdi’-En Magan, ‘Punnaimaram onnu thennai maram onnu’-Muththana Muththallavo,’ ‘Kannankarutha kuyil nirathavalae’-Dr.Siva, ‘Manjal poosi manjam konda’ and ‘Appappa thambi’- Both from Ungal Viruppam, Ilaya Thalaimurai title track, ‘Naan summa thodavae maataen’-Aval Oru Adhisayam and ‘Gopurathilae oru chittukkuravi’ –Shankar Salim Simon, ensure a place, humble though it may be, for KS, in the galaxy of Tamil singers.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.231)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:56:14 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12E (Continued)
This song seems to be the exultant celebration marking the birth of a son- perhaps of Jaishankar & Jayachitra. The song exudes an air of festive and boisterous merry making.
VJ:Oosimel raapagalaa ukkaarndhu thavamirundhaa--
Urakkam varaama orukkalichu paduthirundhaa--
Pesi vechcha pechchuppadi paththaam masam peththeduthaa--
Aasaikkadal kulichava thaan-- azhagaana muththeduthaa--
SG:Oorai thiruththa oru pillai porandhaan-
Appan peyarai nirutha rendukkannai thirandhaan;
Thaarai thambattam kottungadi,
Kai thaalam thappama thattungadi!
SG&VJ: Oorai thiruththa oruppillai pirandhaan-
Appan peyarai nirutha rendukkannai thirandhaan;
Thaarai thambattam kottungadi,
Kai thaalam thappama thattungadi!
SG:Anippillai- thennampillai
kilippillai- keerippillai-
aththanaikkum usandhadhu ennappillai?
Ada-- sollu pulla!
VJ:Oru aaththaa madi sumandha chinna pullai-
Thottu paartha kai manakkum vanna pullai-
Thottu paartha kai manakkum vanna pullai!
SG:Vellarikkai vidhaiyaippola sirikkudhadi
pillai vellaritham poovaattam irukkudhadi;
VJ:Kallirukkum thaamaraippo-
kaadirukkum malligaippoo-
mullirukkum seriyilae porandhadhadi,
ingae ullirukkum seithiyellaam arijidhadi!
Peththeduththa ammaiyoru panakkaari-
nalla peru vecha appanoru thozhilaali!
SG:Melidathai keezhidathil
Oridathil serthuvaikka-
kaaranamaai vandhadhadi indhappillai-
indha kaariyathai verevanum senjathillai!
KS:Anandha thenae-- arumai maganae--
naan sollapporadhai kettukkada-
nee nallathai kaathulappotukkada
nee nallathai kaathulappotukkada
KS: alaiyil uzhaikkum thozhilaali-
unna arisayaikkodukkum vivasaayi-
mootaiyai thookkum paataali-
indha moovarum namakku kootaali!
The song begins with a pleasant flute bit, and VJ enters with the gentle thogayara. The graceful line endings are typical VJ, while the extra soft last line beginning with ‘Aasaikkadal kulichchava thaan’ is of particular appeal. This prelude is the hushed calm before the exuberant storm- all hell breaks loose when Seergazhi begins with ‘Oorai thiruththa oru’- rumbustious revelries commence in right earnest—and KS (for Jai?) joins the party toward the end, singing a few words of socialist advice to the infant son!
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.231)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:58:21 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12F
170. Pudhu manjal meni chittu- Rudra Thaandavam- SPB-MSV
Alarmelu Manga Productions’ Rudra Thaandavam starred VK Ramasamy, Nagesh,Vijayakumar,Sumitra and others. It was directed by VKR himself, and proved to be a modest hit. The film was based on VKR’s own play for propagating the 20 Point Programme during the Emergency years, and VKR played the lead role of Lord Siva with savoir faire.
Virudhunagar K Ramasamy (1926-2002) was among the most enduring actors in the long history of Tamil Cinema. His early apprenticeship in the drama troupes of Ponnuswami Pillai and Kalaivanar NSK served him in good stead throughout his career as an actor. At the age of 21, he played an elderly man in his first film- AVM’s Naam Iruvar-1947, and fate willed that he would play only predominantly elderly roles. Over the years, he gave memorable performances in hundreds of films like Parasakthi, Penn, Veerappandiya Kattabomman, Paavai Vilakku, Pudhiya Paravai, Paar Magalae Paar, Ooty Varai Uravu, Lakshmi Kalyanam, Vasantha Maaligai, Kasi Yaathirai, Aanpavam, Mounaragam, Velaikkaran, Varusham 16, Agni Natchathiram, Poo Pootha Nandavanam, Arangetra Velai, Arunachalam, Dum Dum Dum etc. His last film was University.
He was the recipient of the Kalaimamani Award instituted by the TN Govt. He bagged the TN Govt.’s Best Comedian Award in 1982-83, and the ‘Kalaivanar Ninaivu Virudhu’ (also from the TN Govt.) in 1988.
Together with Akkammappettai Paramasivan Nagarajan, VKR started producing films under the banner ‘Sree Lakshmi Pictures’. The films that came from this collaboration include Makkalai Petra Maharasi-1957, Nalla Idathu Sambandham-1958, Thaayaippola Pillai Noolaippola Selai-1959 and Vadivukku Valaikappu-1962. Later APN broke away from VKR, and started making his own films under the banner ‘Sri Vijayalakshmi Pictures’- Navarathiri-1964 was the first film under this banner, followed by the famed string of grand mythologicals. Meanwhile, VKR produced Selvam-1966, under the banner ‘VKR Pictures’. VKR has produced 13 films, and Rajinikanth made him one of the many producers of Arunachalam. However, years of dissipated living eroded all his earnings, and with his son bringing financial ruin upon the family with his film ‘Sundarapandiyan’ (stg. Karthik) which is still lying in the cans, VKR died in penury after a brief illness on 24th December 2002.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.229)
on: Mon Jul 21 17:00:44 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12F(continued):
Other songs in Rudrathaandavam were ‘Nee mannavana chinnavana sollividum pirappu’-TMS and ‘Oru aaththukku karaiyum iruvar pannum koothukku thiraiyum’- LRE & ?.
SPB: Pudhu manjal meni chittu-
pudaivaikkul oonjal ittu
Nadanangal aadidum nayamaana azhagu
Vizhiyae—idhu enna rajangamo
Vizhiyae—
idhu enna rajangamo
VJ: Idhazh thottu thendral poojai-
idai thottu Kaaman poojai
udalengum ungal poojai
idhu thaanae ungal aasai--
Moham azhaikkindrathae—nanam thadukkindrathae—
Hmm hmm- naanam thadukkindrathae—
VJ: Neer konda megangal kudai podavum
nilai konda pushpangal manam thoovavum
ther konda paravaigal sruthi meettavum
thirumeni valam vandha sugam ennavo
SPB: Kaarkoondhal kadal kanda alaiyaagavum
Ther konda manichangu oli kaattavum
Nizhal konda rathi devi uru vandhadho
VJ: Angam thodaamal sangam illamal kannil sugangal illai
SPB: Mannan varaamal Maharaniyennum pennnmai nalangal illai
SPB: Then sindhum sirukkoodu nadamaaduthu
sirumullai magarandhappodi thoovuthu
maan vannam madi meedhu vilayaaduthu
mazhaiyaaga thamizh veenai isaippaaduthu
VJ: Uravendrum sugamendrum ninaiyaadhadhu
oru nenjil nilayaana idam theduthu
iravendrum pagalendrum ariyaamalae
idhamaana sugam kaana unai naaduthu
idhamaana sugam kaana unai naaduthu
SPB: Thanjam pugundha manjal nilavai endrum marandhadhillai
VJ: Anjum nadungum pinjaaga nindrum aasai izhandhadhillai
If MSV based the opening tune of ‘Ilangaiyin Ilam kuyil’ on his own ‘Bhale bhale’ from Maro Charithra, for ‘Pudhu manjal meni chittu’, he seems to have heavily borrowed from ‘Yae theegappovuno’, another unforgettable number from Maro Charithra. Thanks to OISG for bringing this similarity to my notice, when I was discussing this song with him recently.
However, this inspiration doesn’t in the least deter the fact that this song is an absolute delight, with SPB and VJ at their euphonious best. The ‘Nayamaana azhagu’ part and its progression to ‘Vizhiyae—ithu enna raajangamo’ has both the singers adding their individual touches, and these cherished moments are alone enough to bring lasting allure to the song. Nayamaana azhagugal niraindha paadal--
To listen to this song, click here:
http://in.f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/nat_saravanan/vwp2?.tok=bcHKn5RBAcoiS8kS&.dir=/&.dnm=pudhu+manjal+meni.mp3&.src=bc
We’ll continue the next part with VJ’s songs for yet another MD in 1978--
List all pages of this thread
Post comments
Sections:
Home -
TFM Magazine -
Forum -
Wiki -
POW -
oPod -
Lyrics -
Pictures -
Music Notes -
Forums: Current Topics - Ilayaraja Albums - A.R. Rahman Albums - TFM Oldies - Fun & Games
Ilaiyaraja: Releases - News - Share Music - AR Rahman: Releases - News - AOTW - Tweets -
Discussions: MSV - YSR - GVP - Song Requests - Song stats - Raga of songs - Copying - Tweets
Database: Main - Singers - Music Director's - Lyricists Fun: PP - EKB - Relay - Satires - Quiz
Forums: Current Topics - Ilayaraja Albums - A.R. Rahman Albums - TFM Oldies - Fun & Games
Ilaiyaraja: Releases - News - Share Music - AR Rahman: Releases - News - AOTW - Tweets -
Discussions: MSV - YSR - GVP - Song Requests - Song stats - Raga of songs - Copying - Tweets
Database: Main - Singers - Music Director's - Lyricists Fun: PP - EKB - Relay - Satires - Quiz