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WHY IR USED S.P.BALA MORE THAN OTHERS

Topic started by MATHURESHAN (@ 213.59.173.13) on Thu Jun 14 08:16:00 EDT 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

HEY GUYS I HAVE SOME REASONS
=HIS BEST FRIEND
=TO SPOIL TMS MARKET(ONLY BALA CAN DO)
=HE COULD NOT FIND GOOD SINGERS,(NOW THIS IS DIFFERENT)

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• From: niwda (@ 210.187.176.222) on: Sun Feb 22 10:02:57 EST 2004
  
  
  MANNIL INTHA KATHALANDRI is from KELADI KANMANI acted by SPB himself.
  
  
• From: kkk (@ 172.134.126.71) on: Sun Feb 22 12:31:26 EST 2004
  
  ir-spb had a long-term contract, which is over now.
  everything was just for money. the more the songs, the more money he made. nothing else!!
  why are some of these members so fanatic to IR ? My humble advice is just be a fan; dont be a fanatic..
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Mon Feb 23 07:17:28 EST 2004
  
  kumudini (@ 210.210.76.34) ;
  
  >>i think the only reason was that KJY was charging more per song and was not available for singing those ugly fast numbers<<
  
  haha, good one, with due respect to dr.KJY, KJY can NOT a versatile singer, yes he is perferct carnatic vocalist, but when it comes to film music is Dr.SPB is too good for him, what's this crap about KJY charging more money, so IR chose SPB??
  
  So singers like JC, MV, Mano, SNS charged lot less than SPB, How come IR did not select them?, IR knows SPB is the ultimate singer, tell me can KJY modulate voice?, express emotions through his songs, NO WAY, all of KJY's songsm be it sad or happy sound same & boring, u would never know, wether he is singing a sad song / or happy song, unless u listen to the lyrics!
  
  but this is nt the case, when SPB sings.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Mon Feb 23 07:19:02 EST 2004
  
  Kumudini,
  
  >>but whenever a good melodious number came up, especially with classical touch, he sent for KJY<<
  
  another bold statement, ok, name me few songs apart from 'Sinthu Bhairavi', and I will list you better versions of SPB!
  
  
• From: kumudini (@ 210.210.76.35) on: Tue Feb 24 01:13:27 EST 2004
  
  raghu.
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  i am not a fanatic, and do not care if another person thinks KJY "is boring", "cannot modulate" etc... only happen to think KJY is a more complete, better singer. more versatile too (being very good in both the classical music and in the light music is versatality to me).
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  by the way, i find some of the SPB songs extremely good. my opinion is SPB sings fast numbers better than KJY. some of the other songs he sang could not have been sung by KJY better. some of the songs sung by KJY are not so good either, or could have been sung better by SPB. agreed. on the negative side, the emotion SPB puts into the songs is mostly artificial and stereotype (slight chuckle/laughter and a tendency to suit the voice to the actor). after a time when the styles change, such "extras" lose its shine, value. same thing happened to many of TMS' brilliant songs in the past.
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  KJY's voice, and its innate beauty, did not require the "extras", or artificial modulations. so, devoid of such frills the songs lived/live longer.
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  a comparison of SPBs Telugu songs with the few Telugu songs sung by KJY reinforces this point.
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  kumudini
  
  
• From: kumudini (@ 210.210.76.35) on: Tue Feb 24 01:16:20 EST 2004
  
  incidentally, KJY charging more was true. this was very much in media at that time (kumudam/kumkumam etc..).
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  one more thing to add, KJY's time is past, whereas SPB is still good. so this is not a comparison of the present out by both.
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  kumudinin
  
  
• From: kumudini (@ 210.210.76.35) on: Tue Feb 24 01:19:46 EST 2004
  
  oops! "output" instead of "out" in the last line.
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  kumudini
  
  
• From: fan (@ 202.9.149.71) on: Thu Feb 26 06:33:02 EST 2004
  
  msv and illayaraja are immortals only becuase of tms and spb.
  
  Their songs will be remembered because it was sung by tms ans spb. I will tell you, most of the present day songs will fade as fastly as they come
  
  
• From: ramana (@ ) on: Fri Aug 27 14:41:00 EDT 2004
  
  Why compare two great singers ? No matter how good a singer is at singing the notes,the timber and quality of his voice is a natural gift as well as a limitation.The art of singing film music is a different ball game than being a good exponent of music as an art form. that is why it matters a lot how a singer is conveying the feeling of the song in the film music.On the other hand , concert music is more on the finer naunces of the notes.This is transperently clear when KJY sings in Telugu or Hindi . On the other hand SPB embeds the nativity of language so well so that the feeling is carried through to the listener. I beg to differ with Kumudini that SPB conveys feelings of laugher or chuckle only.One has to look for the songs he sang under MSV ,KVM apart from IR for the umpteen numers in which he carried the emotions of heart broken lovers and pathos .
  
  SPB himself went on record saying MSV and IR are two gods and he is a mere human being.If one takes the longivity of singer as a measure of greatness (Like that of rafi,Kishore kumar) SPB wins hands down.He spanned three generations of Music directors.Even other great singers have their limitations simply because of the quality ,timber and range of their voice.It is the music director who knows whom to use for a particular song ,given the lyric,situation and the emotion it is supposed to convey.
  
  Lets salute everyone of these greats and be happy to be in this generation to enjoy their work.
  
  
• From: hari (@ 155.69.5.223) on: Sat Aug 28 08:46:18 EDT 2004
  
  
  "If one takes the longivity of singer as a measure of greatness (Like that of rafi,Kishore kumar) SPB wins hands down.He spanned three generations of Music directors."
  
  So, how about the 43 yr career (started in 1961) (he still sings in films not busy though) of Dr.KJY?
  
  
  
• From: hari (@ 155.69.5.223) on: Sat Aug 28 08:46:40 EDT 2004
  
  
  "If one takes the longivity of singer as a measure of greatness (Like that of rafi,Kishore kumar) SPB wins hands down.He spanned three generations of Music directors."
  
  So, how about the 43 yr career (started in 1961) (he still sings in films not busy though) of Dr.KJY?
  
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.101.34.61) on: Sat Aug 28 10:53:58 EDT 2004
  
  coz IR composed at the time when he suited the song and the actor. period.
  
  I cant imagine Dhanush lipsyncing an SPB number! :)
  
  
• From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4) on: Mon Aug 30 07:38:24 EDT 2004
  
  >>>So, how about the 43 yr career (started in 1961) (he still sings in films not busy though) of Dr.KJY?
  
  Sorry, KJY sings sparingly.
  
  Even now SPB is prefered for as youthful song such a sakkara inikkira sakkara...you can see the youthness in his voice stilll..adhudhaan SPB.
  
  
• From: Anathema (@ 67.80.162.223) on: Tue Aug 31 02:34:19 EDT 2004
  
  hari, even TMS sings these days, only in his drawing room, because even the most sophisticated voice recognition device would get put off with the tremble in his voice and would never be able to match his current voice with that of 50s and 60s. KJY's is a similar situation though not as bad because he is much younger than TMS. SPB has completed 38 years and compare KJY's voice when he had spent as many years in the field. SPB wins hands down. No doubt.
  
  
• From: 1 (@ 202.54.137.122) on: Tue Aug 31 09:00:32 EDT 2004
  
  Click this link
  
  http://www.mouthshut.com/readreview/56127-1.html
  
  Smile
  sureshkumar
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Wed Sep 1 06:35:15 EDT 2004
  
  Ramana & ZZ
  
  I agree with you completely :)
  
  ZZ,
  
  >> sakkara inikkira sakkara>I cant imagine Dhanush lipsyncing an SPB number! :)<<
  
  Ithu konjam over ;), I don't want SPB to sing 4 Dhanush !!
  
  
• From: hari (@ 155.69.5.234) on: Thu Sep 2 05:19:29 EDT 2004
  
  Anathema,
  
  "SPB has completed 38 years and compare KJY's voice when he had spent as many years in the field. SPB wins hands down. No doubt."
  
  So, SPB started singing in films in 1966?. To my understanding, its 1969 whereas KJY started in 1961.
  
  KJY has spent 43 yrs in the field as of now and I request you hear his song from two Malayalam movies (available in musicindiaonline.com).
  
  1. Ennale Enete Nenchile..(Balettan (2003))
  
  2. Kunje...(Kazhcha (2004))
  
  Do you believe SPB can sing these songs to the mude?
  
  Considering SPB's and KJY's voices KJY wins hands down.
  
  Hari
  
  
  
• From: hari (@ 155.69.5.234) on: Thu Sep 2 05:21:00 EDT 2004
  
  Sorry..mood not mude.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Thu Sep 2 11:25:52 EDT 2004
  
  Hari bhai,
  
  >>So, SPB started singing in films in 1966?. To my understanding, its 1969 whereas KJY started in 1961.
  >KJY has spent 43 yrs in the field as of now and I request you hear his song from two Malayalam movies (available in musicindiaonline.com).
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  incorrect, sorry but after 1996, KJY has lost it big time, he sounds sqeaky & nasal at high pitches, his golden voice once has gone realy bad, that is a fact!
  
  where else SPB's majestic voice still rulz, he can challenge the legends as well as the non legendary modest singers like hariharan , U.Krishnan, ... and the rest of the troops!
  
  Considering SPB's and KJY's voices SPB wins hands down. :)
  
  
• From: hari (@ 155.69.5.223) on: Thu Sep 2 23:53:38 EDT 2004
  
  Raghu,
  I agree with you on that KJY couldn't sing in high pitches as effectively as he used to do before 1996. But those two songs I mentioned was low pitched songs, revealing the bass and I couldn't find any alteraion to his voice in the base. In 1999, he had sung one song "harimuraleeravam" set to raga Sindhubhairavi from the film "Aaaram Thampuran (Malayalam) lasting for almost 12 minutes". Nowadays, he mostly sings from the extreme base to medium and slight high pitches, because as age progresses, ability to sing in high pitches get reduced (TMS may be an exception as his voice was set for high pitches only!).
  
  To me, SPB is 8 years younger to KJY, and his voice is also not like the golden voice I heard in "Idayam oru Koyil" and "Theen sithute". AGE AGE.....Is SPB singigng in full swing in TFM nowadays?. In the recent movies, I mostly hear the voices of Karthick, Tippu, Unni, Shankar, Hari, Sreenivas and Udit though they are no match for great SPB!
  
  Appreciating ones's voice goes on personal preferece!. Both KJY and SPB are legends, but for sure, they have clearly circumvented all the north indian singers by miles!
  
  This was not to undermine Rafi Sahab, he is indeed a legend. As for male singers, he is the only one worth proper mention from North India!.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Fri Sep 3 01:40:50 EDT 2004
  
  SPB is a legend no doubt. But when comparing their voices and their deterioration, keep in mind that KJY is a carnatic pro as well, which demands hours of singing at home AND at concerts! And these are not easy film tunes, mind you, rigorous 45-mins long vocal exercises. The amount of strain his vocal chords have been put through would be unparalleled in TFM/ICM. The man made a succesful surge in diff languages including Hindi where he had better success than SPB IMO. I am not making a case here for KJY over SPB (the latter is obviouly the better playback singer IMO) but its amazing that KJY's voice even lasted that long considering how much he has sung.He is one of a kind as far as TFM/IFM is concerned.
  
  

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