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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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Neel's VJ Songs

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• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Jul 6 19:27:33 EDT 2002
  
  Neel - I noticed the subtle change in the heading from "Melodies of "...to "Voice of Vani Jayaram" - works well this way too! I can see that you are constantly working on your new (baby) site!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.246) on: Sun Jul 7 07:30:03 EDT 2002
  
  Neel/Naaz, doesn't Vani itself mean voice?!
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sun Jul 7 09:17:23 EDT 2002
  
  Yes, Saravanan, it does. Not a coincidence that I thought "Akash Vani" when I "Voice of Vani."
  Voice of "Voice" is an interesting circularity like Poet's Poet, or Man's Man (repetitious perhaps, but not at all redundant.) As phrases, they qualify both the subject and the object - in VJ's case (in the heading as well -Vani'yin Vani - as the literal tamizh translation might read -) the dual presence of both listener and singer is included in "Voice". It's also catchy!
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jul 9 20:34:35 EDT 2002
  
  Yeh Sawan Kyon Barse?: The Heart's Monsoon.
  
  Yeh Swan Kyon Barse harks back to a time in Indian Light Music when things were small and ordinary, when songs essentially depended more on the singing voice and the composition, and less on innovation and technical showmanship. Capturing simplicity is harder than it may seem. And the extraordinary quality of YSKB is this very ordinariness - pure, unembellished, and filled with many epiphanies - fleeting, caressing and gently lingering. Much like life itself.
  
  Kahe Ko Churayee, presents VJ in a precocious, provocative and seductive mood. The song reminds one of older (golder?) tunes by SDB and MM. The many hidden meanings of dalliance and despair are beautifully captured by Vani in the subtle ennui mixed with desire that leaks into the nuancing of the word "Churayee" and the suggestive sigh of "Oh Rama." An unusual Vani, a song flung back like the unfurling of a rainbow dupatta, announcing the return of romance. Enchanting, simply.
  
  Sawan Barasthe Huay: The lyrics highlight distance and separation, the voice evokes images of longing and nostalgia, the song fades with the haunted lover, fading into a rising and trailing cresendo. VJ's magic is particularly evident in the many ways in which she awakens the paradoxes and parallelisms in the poetry - the lower and higher cries of "Sawan" and the suppressed, almost whispered "Baras" (Also note the elongation on "BIRHA Ki Agni Kab Tak Sahun?" - the reiteration of the line (and word) the second time around is a masterful example of voice control and emotion.) - passage of time and its effects on a deserted heart, stunningly distilled in just the shifting emphasis placed on those two words. Brilliant, simply.
  
  Lagi Aag Dil Ki: Perhaps the most love-drenched song on the whole album. VJ touchingly gives voice feelings of betrayal, confusion and solitude, the beloved's burning heart can be seen in the slow, deliberate enunciation, in the bittersweet expressions of being lovelorn. This is a song that also incorporates many "urdu" vords - "mohabbat" "naghmae" "tanhayi" "gham." Once again the song manages a stunning fadeout. If one can overlook the sentimentality and oozing sense of loss that permeates the lyrical aspect of the song, then the voice offers an expressive glimpse into the ruminations of a ruined/abandoned heart. Evocative, simply.
  
  Ghanan Ghanan Barse and Rim Jhim Si Barkha are also expertly done and rendered. But these are perhaps the two tunes in the album that quickly make their way to the "stereotypical" category. The songs are memorable precisely because they are a touch more formulaic than the rest.
  
  Yeh Swan Kyon Barse by Vani Jairam
  Gentle. Pure. Natural.
  Rainshower melodies which last long after the clouds have opened, poured, and moved on.
  Memorable, simply.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Tue Jul 9 22:01:29 EDT 2002
  
  Just when I was wondering where everybody was... that was a nice commentary Naaz. VJ has yet again proven that she is a cut way way above the rest.
  
  Now where is everybody else?
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Wed Jul 10 10:52:01 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz
  Good review. Thanks for elaborating your views and thoughts without saying "ditto" to others' reviews:-)
  
  "when songs essentially depended more on the singing voice and the composition, and less on innovation and technical showmanship." -- I can't agree more with you.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 10 11:55:31 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi -
  Thanks. The shift from "ditto" to "vox" was for two reasons: I realised that there is high percentage of non-Hindi posters here, and hence the review might at least highlight some features of the songs which in turn might add to their listening pleasure.
  Two: Both our "quicktakes" round up the album and cover all songs with necessary details. They might serve as points of comparison for other listeners. I found that on listening to Gaanamanjari after reading your suggestions and feedback made for a more heightened listening, both asethetically and artisitcally. As I said, I am merely borrowing a page from your book :-)
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Wed Jul 10 12:34:17 EDT 2002
  
  One song of VJ which caught my attention recently is "kalaimagaL kai veeNai muzangudhamma". A very tough song to render and I guess MSV was the composer. The song has alternating passages of carnatic and rock styles both sung well by VJ ( the western is not all that impressive though). The carnatic part is predominantly in mohanam and the western in vasanthi. I wonder who has guts to churn out songs in this mould now.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 10 12:49:42 EDT 2002
  
  MS - That is a superb song indeed. I would say that what we hear today in 95% of film music is the "Churned" stuff. Songs like the one you mention are moments of true inspiration. It also takes more than guts (most current MDs would call/see themselves as "gutsy" for their "cool" risks,) - it takes a deeper understanding and knowledge of music, even though the venture may be entirely commercial, to compose, arrange, sing and do it again! Kalaimagal Magal Kai Veenai is a good example of how committed to "aesthetics" even Film Music was in those days. People still thought of it terms of idealism and art. The song is from Metnattu Marumagal? I could be wrong.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 10 12:54:52 EDT 2002
  
  Melnattu Marumagal - typo.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Wed Jul 10 14:57:48 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz/MS
  Do you guys know if there is any website I can hear the "kalaimagaL kai veeNai muzangudhamma" song online. I tried a couple of sites I know, but none of them had this movie, if the name is right.
  
  Mohanam and vasatha (or is it vaasanthi?) don't resemble so much and I am wondering how MSV fused both these ragas so they can flow one into another smoothly.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 10 15:00:34 EDT 2002
  
  Neel D's VJ Webpage has it on the Solos list!!!
  think the music was by Kunnakudi not MSV
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jul 10 15:10:59 EDT 2002
  
  You know recently there has been a lot of talk about singers and breath control etc. SPB's Mannil Indha Kaadhalindri and Shankar Mahadevan's "Breathless" have been cited as examples of superhuman "film singing" feats.
  But no one mentions that singers like VJ have many such "breathless" moments in their careers. "Kalaimagal Kai Veenai" "Aanathi Neeara" "Thithom Thithom" "Illanguyile Chinnanchirumayile" "Kavidhai Kelungal." And the ragamalika song from "Gaanamanjari." and all songs in Gita Govindam - just a few examples from VJ's repetoire.
  Effortless transitions between scales, matched by flawless pronunciation, expression and awesome singing.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Wed Jul 10 18:27:32 EDT 2002
  
  I just heard the "Kalaimagal" song through Neel's website. Good song. Throughout the song, I felt VJ was trying to sing like LREswari in the western (??) portion of the song, more so in the final section of the song. To me, this is actually the portion of the song where it gets very interesting with the traditional singing swaras in mohanam and the western singing some alapana.
  
  Thanks guys for bringing up this song in this thread.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Wed Jul 10 21:43:52 EDT 2002
  
  More duets with KJY have been uploaded. Happy listening!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.243) on: Thu Jul 11 00:39:26 EDT 2002
  
  My God, I haven't listened to Ninaithaal unnaithaan ninaippen for so many years now! Neel, THANK YOU--! What a song! Always wondered who Thayanban (the MD) was and why he didn't do any other films. Any of you guys have any info on him?
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50) on: Thu Jul 11 09:14:32 EDT 2002
  
  I am listening to "Kalaimagal" for the first time. Many other songs are totally new to me. I can conveniently skip the latest stuff that the new MDs churn.
  VJ's control in "Kalaimagal" is so good that I felt that there were 2 singers singing the song.
  Neel D: the "latest update" page is a good idea. Is there anyway you can include a search agent? I know there are problems with transliteration, but can you have a primitive search at least? keep up the good work.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Thu Jul 11 10:23:53 EDT 2002
  
  Neel D
  I am taking the liberty of asking you (only if possible at all) if you can upload all/some of the following telugu film songs of VJ to Page 2 of the telugu section. You already have swarnakamalam song there.
  a) Dorakuna ituvanti seva; Ae theeruga nanu; Brochaevaarevaruraa -- from Sankaraabharanam
  b) Aanathineeyaraa, Sivani bhavaani, Theli manchu karigindi -- from Swathikiranam
  c) Aalokayae sri balakrishnam, Sri gananaadham, Vaishnavi bhaargavi -- from Sruthilayalu
  
  This for the time being will quench my thirst:-) I am probably asking too much, but what can I say...
  
  
• From: Priya (@ 198.23.26.253) on: Thu Jul 11 10:32:15 EDT 2002
  
  
  NeelD,
  
  Came back from a vacation and was really thrilled with the new additions in your site. Thanks!!!!
  
  Can you also please see if you can upload 2 rare semi-classical songs
  
  1) Deiveega kalai enrum nilai aanadhu (Don't know the movie)
  2) Govardhanan vandhaan kuzhal eduthu (Ditto)
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Thu Jul 11 12:16:32 EDT 2002
  
  Neel D, Saravanan -
  Ninaithaal Unaiththaan is a fine example of both VJ and KJYs ability to transcend the "classical" image which precedes their attempts at any song. Both singers prove their ease of adaptability and still keep their allure, their magic. Another similar duet (which I have been looking for high and low,) is by the same duo from Nooravadhu Naal - "Ulagam Muzhudhum Pazhaiya Raathiri" : Once again, a simple tune taken to sublime heights by KJY and VJ.
  
  Are there any other songs by VJ for Thayanban? Like Saravanan, I am curious about his discography and presence in TFM. When was he around, for how along, and yenna aachchu? The guy seems genuinely gifted.
  
  Priya: Good to have you amidst us again!
  
  

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