
Topic started by Ramki (@ 68.69.214.196) on Fri Nov 19 19:49:35 EST 2004.
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Often we listen to songs that we feel deserves more appreciation or we discover songs that somehow escaped the attention of listeners or were masked by other popular songs from the same movie.The joy of sharing such discoveries with others could be boundless.
This thread is going to do exactly that.
Songs we host could be really rare or not so rare. We are not limiting to just hosting them.
Many of the songs will be analyzed in detail by carnatic vocalist Mrs Charumathi M.
We are going to start with one song a week. We will try our best to upload the songs in newtfmpage but in rare occassions we might just give you the song link.
Finally, if you feel you have a song that you want to share it with rest of us or if you want us to load a particular song, please let us know and we will try our maximum best to meet your request.
If you want to post comments on older songs, pls go to this archive. There you'll find the previous songs indexed as separate threads. Post your comments on the appropriate thread.
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- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Wed Dec 15 19:59:11 EST 2004
FM, Thanks for the correction
'ArumbugaL' had sridevi and bunch of kids in the cast. Sridevi acted as a blind woman. Latha Rajinikanth made her debut as singer in this film. Song-'nallavar sollai naam ketpom'
- From: From Mars (@ 24.42.156.114)
on: Wed Dec 15 20:02:07 EST 2004
I thought Latha Rajinikanth debut as a singer in Tik Tik Tik. Was that a wrong info?
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Wed Dec 15 21:06:09 EST 2004
FM that was her second song. According to tamilcinema.com both the films came in the same year, but i remember reading somewhere(vamanans article) that this was her first song
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Wed Dec 15 21:23:53 EST 2004
From imdb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186830/
Looks like chinnadurai was the movie's director.
Several websites for sridevi say this movie was released in 1979(2 yrs befor tik tik tik). So this should be LR's first song.
'seri kuzhandaigaL' is available in MIOL too
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/26/s/movie_name.4204/
- From: T (@ 12.33.141.41)
on: Thu Dec 16 12:24:32 EST 2004
ramki, are u able to listen to songs from MIOL?? i cant..It says Transitioning and then stops..
- From: From Mars (@ 209.50.91.70)
on: Thu Dec 16 12:59:46 EST 2004
why do you need MIOL? listen in pow :)
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Thu Dec 16 18:28:36 EST 2004
Looks like cheri kuzhandhaigaL are not appreciated anywhere :((
:)
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Thu Dec 16 18:47:42 EST 2004
Next pick
http://newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://newtfmpage.com/songs/poove.rm
Song: poove idhu poojaikaalame
Film: graamathu adhyayam
Singer: BSSasirekha
Lyrics: Gangai Amaran
MD : IR
'Graamathu adhyayam' was the second film (and last) by Rudraiyaa. After the brilliant 'avaL appadithaan' came this horrible film which is still remembered today only for its songs.
The film,shot in black and white, had a documentary feel .It was dreary, boring and quiet confusing.
'Gramathu adhyayam' is story of a woman (krishnakumari who has a strikling resemblance to her sister tollywood/bollywood actress Rameshwari) who continues her relationship with her boyfriend even after marrying someonelese(udhiri pookaL fame Soundar).
This film had 4 songs
'aathu mettule' (MV,SJ)-for KK and a new hero
'oodha kaathu veesaiyile'(SJ,JC)-for KK and Soundar
'vaadadha rosapooo naan onnu paarthen' (SPB)for another character who is also in love with KK
and
our latest pick which was for KK.
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Thu Dec 16 20:21:04 EST 2004
T i have no problem listening to MIOL songs
- From: T (@ 70.20.179.78)
on: Thu Dec 16 21:55:07 EST 2004
ramki, cheri kuzhandhaigal was infact a very nice song.. I heard it only now..
Not a big fan of sasirekha.. so i'll pass on the gramathu adhyayam song.. wasnt there another movie called gramathu minnal?
- From: RC (@ 69.177.66.237)
on: Thu Dec 16 23:32:22 EST 2004
T: Gramathu minnal unga fav hero Ramarajan nadicha padam. Heroine: Revathy. MD: IR Dir: Rangarajan, I think.
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Sun Dec 19 19:33:43 EST 2004
Next pick
http://newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://newtfmpage.com/songs/pani.rm
Song: paniyum naane malarum neeye
Film: Pani malar
Singer: SPB, Jency
Lyrics: Muthulingam
MD : Shankar Ganesh
-I remember watching this song in OLiyum oliyum many many years ago. The song was picturised on Raveendar and Sashikala. I have no other details on this film.
-If im not wrong this is the last song by Jency in TFM. This could be her second song with SPB(after mayile mayile)
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.249)
on: Mon Dec 20 05:04:32 EST 2004
'cheri kuzhandhaigal' is probably a song that didn't get noticed for a (seemingly) unfriendly pallavi. But I think the song can be listened just for its lyrics.
cheri kuzhandhaigal sevvandhi arumbugal
kovil kulangalil neendhi dhinam geetham isaikkindra meengal
andha chinnaj chirusugal chithira pinjugal
siru olai kudilgalil koovi sola kanji kudukkindra kuyilgal
andha sorkka chirippugal sorna virippugal
chetru sagadhiyil thulli thanga meni karuthidum muyalgal
(cheri)
andha sooriya deepangal sundara chirpangal
saalai orangalil odum kizhisal sattai anindhitta maangal
andha solai pasumaigal soga pathumaigal
veli nizhalgalil koodi pasum thogai verikkindra mayilgal
andha sevaazhai thandugal sendhoora cheppugal
nadai paathaigalil valarum namadhu naalaya nambikkai payiral
(cheri)
Rare to find such 'visual' lyrics in TFM. I won't be surprised if MSV tuned for pre-written lyrics.
KJY,SJ superb. MSV has also given his touch to beautify this song musically. I think the base is Misra Sivaranjani. In addition to the usual G3 touches (as in 'neeeeendhi'), MSV has also used D1 (the first 'meeeeengal') I think. Both add to give the pathos feel nicely. I wonder if this raga is called by a unique name. (Ramki,M: Can Mrs.Charumathi help?)
- From: thumburu (@ 161.114.64.72)
on: Mon Dec 20 08:07:52 EST 2004
Iam no fan of BS.Sashirekha. But "poove idhu poojai kaalame" is an excellent song that is ever haunting. SLBC used to feature this song rarely under "malarndhum malaraadhadhum" - this beautiful "poo" that fell off the poojai thattu :(
- From: RC (@ 69.182.35.180)
on: Mon Dec 20 19:08:51 EST 2004
Ramki: This movie, panimalar, came much much earlier before Ilamai kaalangaL, in which sasikala was introduced. If I remember it correctly, it is Ravindhar and Madhavi.
- From: From Mars (@ 24.42.156.114)
on: Tue Dec 21 01:05:23 EST 2004
RR,
It cannot be called a unique raaga. Usually Misra Sivanjani means Ga1 and Ga2, in this song D2 (meenkal) is used. Hence you cannot call this as Misra sivaranjani either. But the base is set to Misra sivaranjani.
- From: From Mars (@ 24.42.156.114)
on: Tue Dec 21 01:12:04 EST 2004
RR,
I'm sorry :) I was wrong. Yes D1 is used (in meenkaL), hence it cannot be called as misra sivaranjani.
What am I doing at this time :)
- From: RR (@ 202.156.2.8)
on: Tue Dec 21 09:45:57 EST 2004
M: MSV kalandhu katti oru 'Mixture Sivaranjani' pottadhaa vachukkalaam :)
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Tue Dec 21 18:41:00 EST 2004
RC you must be correct. As i mentioned in my post i saw this song very long time back
- From: Ramki (@ 68.69.213.2)
on: Tue Dec 21 20:13:06 EST 2004
Next pick
http://newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://newtfmpage.com/songs/karp.rm
Song: deivathin thereduthu
Film: Paatum bharathamum
Singer : TMS
Music : MSV
Lyrics : Kannadasan
- Another classic from MSV with a great combination of wonderful lyrics, powerful voice and excellent tune. If TMS impresses you with his gambeera sogam, Kannadasan floors you with the rare usage of uvamais.
The lyrics will have more meaning if the situation is explained:
Sivaji and jayalalitha, professional bharathanatyam dancers, fall in love with each other after the tamil film norm fights and tiffs.
Since Sivajis family will be against this relationship, he will marry JJ against their wishes. But soon he will start suspecting her which will lead to their seperation. By the time he realises his mistake, she will fly out of the country with his child in her womb.
Todays pick comes at this situation. Kannadasan aptly starts(after the thogaiyar 'karapanaikku')
deivathin thereduthu deviyai thedu
devikku thoodhu sella thendrale odu
aavikuL aavi aanandha aedu
avaL illaiyendraal naan verum koodu
paavaikku pottuvaithen naan oru koadu
paadi parandhadhamma iLankuyil pedu
-just by reading the 4 lines we can learn the crux of the story.
The following 4 lines are the highlight of the whole song. sivaji, who will be shown as a young man at the start of the song, will slowly transform into an oldperson through the duration of the song.
Kannadasan beautifully captures the change in seasons in these 4 lines
neer vatri ponadhendru ninaivinil vedippu(kodai)
nenjathil thondrudhammaa vasanthathin thudippu(vasantham)
maamazhai megam indru kaNgaLil iruppu(kaarkaalam)
maargazhi paniyandro avaLadhu sirippu(panikaalam)
Then the last 2 lines of the third charanam describes that our hero is old now
(narai vizhundhaalum nenjil thirai vizhavillai)
'paatum bharathamum' had sivaji in dual role(Father and son)JJ and sripriya were the respective jodis. The film had 4 great songs by MSV
Sivagaami aadavandhaal natarajan enna seivaan
maandhorana veedhiyil meLangaL
mazhaikaalam varugindradhu(MSV,VJ) and
deivathin thereduthu
There is also another song for the 'son' sivaji(sivaji with horrible make up and ultra overacting). I think it was by SPB.
This is what Mrs Charumathi has to say about this song
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'karpanaiku mEni thanthu' is based on 'chakravaagam'. This raaga is
16 'mELa' and it has
the following aaro, avaro and 'swarasthana':
Aro: Sa Ri1 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Da2 Ni1 Sa
Avo: Sa Ni1 Da2 Pa Ma1 Ga2 Ri1 Sa
You can also say that this song is based on 'ahir bhairavi' in
hindustani raaga.
The song is set to Adi thaLa and it has a unusual format for a film
song. Normally,
first two lines of 'pallavi' repeats throughout a song; however
3rd and 4th line of pallavi repeats in this song. ie 'deivathin thEr
eduthu dEviyai thEdu'
and 'dEvikku thoothu sella thendralE Odu' repeats, but the first two
lines never repeat.
'Jadhi' appears in the end of song and reminds of 'Siva's uruthira
thaaNdavam' which is also
uncommon in a film song.
The music director brought a sad feeling through the song and I'm not
sure about the situation
in the movie; especially the lines 'narai vizhunthaalum nenjil thirai
vizha villai' reminds me
the sad feeling. It's very rare that 'narai' appears in a film song.
The lyrics has lots of 'Old Tamil' words which is not easy to
understand the underlying
meaning.
MD used "Senai' instrument which also adds the sad feeling to the song.
Musically this song is similar to 'uLLathil nalla uLLam' from 'karNan'.
- From: RR (@ 218.186.184.137)
on: Wed Dec 22 04:40:05 EST 2004
Ramki: I always confuse this song with 'sandhega kodu' (also in chakravagam). Which movie is that from?
Is the SPB song 'I will sing for you' ?
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