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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Fri Jan 16 11:46:38 EST 2004
  
  Dinesh:
  
  Really, can u post that link or interview where ARR says his Guru is IR? I am very curious to see that interview.
  
  
• From: Anbe sivam (@ 24.184.29.127) on: Fri Jan 16 23:27:21 EST 2004
  
  Dinesh,
  
  As I know, ARR said that he likes IR's punctuality. He is surprised by it. I have not read anything other than that by ARR musically on IR.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.111) on: Sat Jan 17 01:44:33 EST 2004
  
  Aswathama,the interview isnt online,i saw it on tv,(malaysian special),he said ,its been loong time now,i think i saw that interview on 2000!
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.65) on: Sat Jan 17 02:47:26 EST 2004
  
  hi guys,i heard Ennai Ville Azhage is from some MSV old song right?may i know the tittle of that song??
  
  
• From: kumaran (@ 210.214.131.201) on: Sat Jan 17 02:58:21 EST 2004
  
  when ever you post a message that IR copied nobody will respond if it is the same with ARR we can see so many threads bashing him to pieces.
  What a biased set of people.
  
  
• From: aishwarya (@ 218.186.105.113) on: Sat Jan 17 05:23:21 EST 2004
  
  i got this site...just see.. http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Sat Jan 17 12:42:21 EST 2004
  
  Dinesh:
  
  The title of the song is "Thanga Pathakathin Melae".
  Regarding ARR's Guru IR, I am not going to argue about something which we don't have anything on record. But I got to say one thing ARR should be very open about that in India then we can believe.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.109.203) on: Sat Jan 17 23:07:22 EST 2004
  
  aishwarya,
  good link.
  
  
• From: mani (@ 165.21.154.8) on: Mon Jan 19 18:14:37 EST 2004
  
  hi,
  
  The song : Ding a Ling (comon comon idhu..)
  Film : Enakku 20 Unakku 18
  Composer : ARR
  
  does it resembles,
  
  the song : Adichidu Kottam
  film : Indiran Chandiran
  Composer : Illayaraaja
  
  mani.
  
  
• From: Dandanaka (@ 66.135.184.107) on: Tue Jan 20 22:41:13 EST 2004
  
  Composer : VIDHYASAGAR
  Song : Ithanoondu Muthathile
  Film : DHOOL
  Copied From
  Artist/Album : Tarkan/Tarkan
  Song : Simarik
  
  Search for Tarkan in cdnow.com...Album name : Tarkan.
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  Composer : VIDHYASAGAR
  Song : Buck Buck/ Enna Seyya Enna Seyya
  Film : Parthiban Kanavu
  Copied From
  Artist/Album : Bond/Shine
  Song : Fuego
  
  
• From: ARRisOkay (@ ) on: Sun Feb 8 18:57:22 EST 2004
  
  dhuan dhuan sounds like ada machchan from chinna veedu though slightly toned down in rhythm. The prelude itself seems to be inspired from the 'Island Groove' in Planet Drums by Mickey Hart.
  
  
• From: ARRisOkay (@ 64.172.25.63) on: Sun Feb 8 18:58:05 EST 2004
  
  Referring to ARR's new release Meenaxi in the above post.
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 68.89.179.86) on: Sun Feb 8 20:49:30 EST 2004
  
  jei
  
  once prasanth enters first time u hear d matrix theme in the background
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.1.200.68) on: Sun Feb 8 23:42:26 EST 2004
  
  ada paavingala! That is too much for Prashanth and a disgrace to Neo!!
  
  that reminds me...there is this new Sarath Kumar film called Gambeeram...Music by Manisharma...saw the trailers...the background has a copy-paste of the music from 'Speed'
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 68.124.248.148) on: Mon Feb 9 01:51:53 EST 2004
  
  The first 20 second tabla bit in an old MSV song, "En vaanathil aayiram velli nilavu" from "Kaviyathalaivi" sounds remarkably close to the tabla in "Maanjolaik kilithaanoa" from "Kizhakkae Pogum Rayil".
  
  
• From: Ras (@ 194.170.246.22) on: Mon Feb 9 04:22:35 EST 2004
  
  Udhaya,
  Romba correct. Similarly,
  
  The mridangam bit in the song, "Mahaganapathim" in Seshagopalan's katcheri yesterday sounded remarkably close to the mridangam bit in the song, "Sara saksha" sung by Bombay Jayashere 2 weeks ago.
  
  ;)
  
  
• From: curious (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Mon Feb 9 17:52:49 EST 2004
  
  Dukhi Man Mere - Funtoosh - SD Burman - 1956
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000228.html
  
  Otrumaiyai Vaazhavathaale - Bagappirivinai - VR - 1959
  http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW00010B
  
  
• From: KP (@ 68.69.212.93) on: Mon Feb 9 19:07:40 EST 2004
  
  Watched a German film (english title-'School trip') over the weekend. The film was about a loner, an aloof teenage guy, brillaint in studies, constantly bullied by his classmates. Only one girl sympathises with him and becomes his friend. He gets obsessed by her but she is in love with another guy..and our hero turns into a psychopath.
  
  Does the story line reminds you of one of the greatest tamil hits of 2003?
  Dhanush must have watched this film few 100 times because he has totally copied the german hero's body language and mannerisms, especially the scene where he tries to kill the girls boyfriend.(Only difference in the german version is the hero succeeds in killing the girls bf).
  
  Looks like our tamil directors are looking beyond hollywood for inspirations:)
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Feb 9 22:38:17 EST 2004
  
  KP:
  
  Searched a bit about this original and found its German title to be 'Klassenfahrt' and indeed, the story is amazingly similar to KK!
  
  http://imdb.com/title/tt0311403/usercomments
  
  So its not just YSR who has won acclaim with 3 non-original compositions...Selvaraghavan is in the fray too with the story itself being lifted. Actually I dont have any issues with that since the screenplay I'm sure has been considerably Tamilised. Except for one nagging issue - credit. Selvaraghavan won a lot of praise for the different story, which should have rightfully gone to the German director. And thats where you find out Selvaraghavan is simply a shameless plagiarist. Whats disturbing is that Selvaraghavan thought nobody would find out that he's lifted...in this age of internet/P2P thats incredibly funny.
  
  Compare this with Vishal Bharadwaj's recent 'Maqbool'. The movie was a fantastic adaptation of Macbeth and every single article and review had included this info...not to mention Vishal himself talking about it in every single interview.
  
  
• From: wheatish (@ 61.1.203.165) on: Mon Feb 9 23:04:03 EST 2004
  
  KP @ (68.69.212.93)
  .
  There is well known Hollywood version of "Klassenfahrt", a B-grade cult film in English, called "FEAR" (the girl's role was done by a teen age Reece Weatherspoon). The Dhanush film was a copy of FEAR, including the body mannerisms etc... (doubt whether dhanush has the capacity to go as far afield as German to do the noble act of copying)
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  wheatish
  
  
• From: paran (@ 202.172.56.56) on: Mon Feb 9 23:12:21 EST 2004
  
  THIS IS SIMPLY IDIOTIC..
  they are trying to make fool out of Indian Audience...and unfortunately they were successful...
  
  man...they copied the story and we made it a hit
  they copied the music...and we made it hit..
  he copied the body language and we made him a super star...
  shame on SelvaRaghavan, Dhanush and YSR...
  
  with this kinda rapport how could anyone compare him with Maniratnam!...idiotic and moronic act of Indian Film Industry....
  shameless Trio...
  
  
• From: paran (@ 202.172.56.56) on: Mon Feb 9 23:13:04 EST 2004
  
  what's more annoying is that they claim that the story is half based on Dhanush's schoolmate..
  and Selva worked on the script for a very long time....
  
  
• From: Instant Acces (@ 130.225.53.16) on: Tue Feb 10 03:27:52 EST 2004
  
  Who cares about its a copy when you talk about kathal kondean, at least its not a typical tamil movie with "mothal, paadal, kathal, paadal, sandai, paadal, sogam, paadal, happy ending". The movie would have been more great to watch without the songs especially the song yuvan shankar raja sung for the movie.
  
  
• From: naikutti (@ 128.88.255.123) on: Tue Feb 10 04:08:04 EST 2004
  
  ras :)- lol!!!
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.201.100) on: Tue Feb 10 05:34:19 EST 2004
  
  I guess we must go easy with Selvaragavan but if somebody compares him with Manirathnam thats just crazy.
  Personally i didnt enjoy KK much but i think Selvaragavan can grow into someone who can be little different even he continues to adapt scripts from somewhere.
  The much over hyped commercial directors like Hari and Ks ravikumar are damn squib.
  
  When people can accept Kamal hassan adapt mrs.doubtfire and whats wrong with bob, we should go easy with guys like Selvaragan and the new croppers cuz they may not grow into another Charan (Gemini) or a Hari (Kovil).
  
  
• From: Tariq (@ 213.199.33.20) on: Tue Feb 10 06:47:29 EST 2004
  
  It's very sad to see the amount of Vaytherichal in this forum. Kadhal Konden was a super hit, no matter where it came from. Many people have taken remakes of other movies that are awful. At least the movie was great. Dhanush did a great job, as did Selva and Yuvan. Don't try to bring them down. If you can do better, please give it a go.
  
  Just because the film is similiar to Fear, I have seen many movies with similiar storylines, it does not mean it is a remake or a copy of an english movie.
  
  Grow up people.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 65.135.90.143) on: Tue Feb 10 15:38:26 EST 2004
  
  I don't feel for or against Kadhal Kondaen but just to add to the possible sources for the storyline:
  -the Nagesh-Dhanush characters and the orphanage setting is just like the Michael Caine-Tobey Maguire characters in "Cider House Rules"
  -the reluctant genius student with a troubled past is similar to Matt Damon's character from "Good Will Hunting"
  -kidnapping and holding the girl captive is from the old British movie, "The Collector" which was later copied in "Moodupani"
  
  

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