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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Jagan (@ 61.11.73.84) on: Tue Dec 30 03:23:19 EST 2003
  
  Teja,
  
  If iam right The MD for Mukku Pudaka is J.V.Raghavulu not KVM. Are you mentioning about Chinuku Chinukugaa.. yes. It is JVR.
  
  In fact KVM used lots of IR's BGM in his latter period
  
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 192.128.134.68) on: Tue Dec 30 07:37:14 EST 2003
  
  Hiya folks
  Have anyone ever compared Limp Bizkit's 'Rollin' and ARR's Boys Theme music ????? Any similarities ?
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.73.164) on: Tue Dec 30 10:27:21 EST 2003
  
  Kupps: If KVM lifted the tune from IR, how can you call it a tribute to IR? :-) A copy is a copy, especially because it was KVMs name and not IRs that would be associated with the song.
  
  
• From: SANGEETHA (@ 210.195.72.209) on: Tue Dec 30 11:21:21 EST 2003
  
  can i have boys lyric/ PLEASE
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.44) on: Tue Dec 30 12:12:09 EST 2003
  
  AV,
  I too said that its a copy, no doubt about it. I dont think KVM did it ala our deva (or) sirpi (or) anu malick (or) anand milind etc's does. When MDs of status KVM copy other's tune means that they are very much impressed with it and they copying is a kind of tribute to the other (even though it is not acknowledged in the credits), because those status MDs copy definitely not because of "stock empty" and they indulge in such copying rarely.
  
  
• From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.9) on: Tue Dec 30 12:15:34 EST 2003
  
  AV, it is an acknowledgment of one genius by another, even though it is not apparent from the credits. to repeat a cliche, plagiarization is the best form of praise.
  
  
• From: suseenran (@ 64.230.178.197) on: Tue Dec 30 15:18:12 EST 2003
  
  guyz this pakistani song resembles ar rahman's songs
  
  http://www.pakhits.com/ramh0010210/pha243.html
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.64.71) on: Tue Dec 30 17:32:26 EST 2003
  
  sriram,
  HUH???? gre-style la rephrase panniteengale - "Imitation is the sincere form of flattery"!
  Engayo kaetta maari irunchu :-))
  
  
• From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.9) on: Tue Dec 30 17:53:44 EST 2003
  
  konjam vaai-ku vandha padi yezhudhitten. kindly adjust.
  
  
• From: Pradeep R (@ 203.199.12.50) on: Wed Dec 31 03:38:23 EST 2003
  
  There is a an INDIPOP song by Vikas Bhalla which is doin' the rounds on music channels. It is a note by note copy of the yesteryears tamil hit, "nadiya Nadiya Nile Nadiya". But with the amount of remixes in hindi these days, can anyone throw light on whether this was an old hindi song - in which case, the tamil version is lifted !
  
  
• From: .126 (@ 203.196.148.194) on: Wed Dec 31 04:06:23 EST 2003
  
  Nadiya Nadiya Nile Nadiya is by R.D.Burman, no doubt it sounds like hindi song.
  
  
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• From: danny (@ 219.95.190.129) on: Mon Jan 5 05:17:52 EST 2004
  
  the latest song " COLLEGIKKU POVOM" from the movie "KOVIL" was originated from the movie "VANAME ELLAI",the song " KAMBAN ENGGU PONAAN" tune at the beginning copied..
  
  the song " ROJA ROJA" from the movie " KADHALAR DHINAM" has its tune exactly from the song "ENNAI VITTAAL YAARUM ILLAI" sung by K.J. Jesudas..
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.34) on: Thu Jan 8 04:56:41 EST 2004
  
  There is a recent song from our infamous copycat Deva which is shamelessly lifted from
  "Yamunai aatrile eerakaatrile" of Thalapathi
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.34) on: Thu Jan 8 04:59:21 EST 2004
  
  "Roja Roja" song from Kdinam is also inspired from an MSV's number from Varumaiyin niram sigappu "Poove poove solai poove"
  
  
• From: navin (@ 220.226.37.16) on: Thu Jan 8 05:16:58 EST 2004
  
  can some one give me a contact info of kartick of 12fs
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.122) on: Sat Jan 10 05:29:24 EST 2004
  
  It's interesting to note how 2 music directors with completely different style can conceive similar tunes.
  Observe the tune flow in the lines below :
  Song Nallavarkellam saatchigal rendu
  Film : Thyaagam
  MD: IR
  Lines : Manidhan amma mayangugiren
  Thavarukku thunindha manidhan azhuvadhillaye
  Thavariyum vaanam mannil vizhuvadhillaye
  
  Song : Kurukku siruthavalle
  Film : Mudhalvan
  MD : ARR
  Lines : Un kannil neer vazhiya udhadu vazhi uyir kasiya ................till the end of pallavi.
  
  
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Sat Jan 10 12:01:37 EST 2004
  
  This is not the only time Rahman's tune coincidentally inspired on IR's tune. He was inspired on " Inji Idupazhagi" too for his Pukar song. ARR inspires on MSV song, KVM etc..and its all termed as coincidence.
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.1.202.226) on: Sat Jan 10 15:39:37 EST 2004
  
  pukar's song sunta hai mera khuda was not inspired from IR's inji edupalaka, it was inspired from Kallem manika kallakuma.
  
  Similarly IR to gets his inspirations from MSV
  rum bum bum arambam is inspired from
  malarenra manam onru parakattum even the rhythm is same in both the songs, Raja would have added a bit of jazz in the middle of the song.
  
  
• From: Anbe sivam (@ 24.184.29.127) on: Sat Jan 10 22:22:41 EST 2004
  
  Jacky,
  
  Your observation about MSV IR is interesting. But ARR's inspiration is not visible.
  
  Pukar song is havin the tinge of Madurai Marikozhundu vaasam as well as Inji idupazahagaa.
  
  
• From: Anbe sivam (@ 24.184.29.127) on: Sat Jan 10 22:28:27 EST 2004
  
  Jacky,
  
  Also one interlude humming from "Ponn Maane" oru kaidiyin dairy movie by IR is used in Thiruda Thiruda song "Kannum Kannum Kollai adithaal".
  
  The Humming before "Kaval paarpavan kaeidhiayaai nirkirrane vaa" is used before "Parakadal ponigaal vannil pournamee enru artham"
  
  
• From: karuna (@ 61.1.255.16) on: Sat Jan 10 23:27:26 EST 2004
  
  2003's biggest and most successful lift was by Dhana in "thiruda thirudi". the song "manmatha rasa" was a straight copy of "chingamasam vannu chernal", the mallu song form the film Meesa Madhavan. only, the rhythm was a bit speeded up in the tamil version. surprising nobody has noticed or commented on this!
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  karuna
  
  
• From: jacky (@ 61.2.224.132) on: Sun Jan 11 02:07:49 EST 2004
  
  Sivam,
  i can be an inspiration or a coincidence cuz you got to really be inspired to get the minute bits to gether.
  i think music directors are limiting themselves to a set of raagas, is that a reason why we catch these tinges and shades?
  I read an artcile by kavinyar vaali where he quoted Rahman has used a rare Raaga in Rajyama emiyama - baba but that song didn't click with the audience, may be All ragas aren't marketable!
  I dunno, just a thought.
  
  
• From: guru (@ 64.169.93.232) on: Sun Jan 11 02:17:09 EST 2004
  
  the song 'manmadha raasa' sounds like an IR song from keladi kanmani, 'paadam nadathuven pray pannuven'
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Sun Jan 11 10:53:40 EST 2004
  
  My opinion for lot of shades of others music comes in to being because the new trend MDs use computers for Control-C and Control-V. They are successful in some respect to make it their original. Certain reasons they get caught so openly and face the embarrassment. When you ask those people they would say that their guru is RD Burman. They would never say MSV or KVM or IR. When u see their work most of the coincidences come from the above stated MDs.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.54) on: Sun Jan 11 14:42:18 EST 2004
  
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  I read an artcile by kavinyar vaali where he quoted Rahman has used a rare Raaga in Rajyama emiyama
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  
  I guess vaali said that ARR has given a new(different from the earlier ones) tune in kalyaani/sindhubhairavi (or some oft repeatedly used widely know raaga only). I dont think he(vaali) said that a rare raaga is used for "raajyama".
  
  pundits may clarify this.
  
  
• From: pithamagan (@ 62.243.89.202) on: Thu Jan 15 16:19:36 EST 2004
  
  Every mds in india has copied music, no one is unique not even gjani "masthana masthana" is a copied song from "LION KING"( too all ilayaraja fans you can denie the truth but it doesnt change bec you dont believe in it!)
  
  
• From: danny (@ 219.95.228.158) on: Fri Jan 16 05:23:40 EST 2004
  
  "veppa maram" from "samy" has its exact background from "madrasai suthi parka" from "may matham"....
  
  "irava pagala" from "poovellam kettupar" is duplicated from a japanese version..
  
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.85) on: Fri Jan 16 09:27:05 EST 2004
  
  
  It's interesting to note how 2 music directors with completely different style can conceive similar tunes.
  Observe the tune flow in the lines below :
  Song Nallavarkellam saatchigal rendu
  Film : Thyaagam
  MD: IR
  Lines : Manidhan amma mayangugiren
  Thavarukku thunindha manidhan azhuvadhillaye
  Thavariyum vaanam mannil vizhuvadhillaye
  
  where can i get to hear this?can anyone provide me the link or sample?
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.182) on: Fri Jan 16 10:14:19 EST 2004
  
  Aswathama,ARR said openly once His guru is Illairaja & Illai is his fav md
  
  
  Same with HJ,his fav md is MSV!!
  
  hope u get the facts right b4 u post them!
  
  

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