Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.
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- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Sun Mar 28 13:08:01 EST 2004
CV -
Good translations distill the essence of the work (in the other language) and if to achieve that the translator has to take a few creative licences, so be it! Your translation was both "essential" and "interpretational" - just the way it ought to be!
The line "Mu Se Bekaar Ki Baatein" - should be read in the context of "Mai Karoon Tum Se Mohabbat Ki Koi Baat Yaqeen Math Karna..." - and if the poet/character is so aware of the "bekaar" nature of the words, then it is both self-conscious and a ploy. I still direction (for the person who is listening to her to interpret) through as self-effacing statement of "direction"
"Don't put too much faith in my pronouncements of love when we are together, there is nothing to those words." What could the motivation be for such a directive? Humility? Self Awareness? A lack of Seriousness? An advance alert to insincere verbosity? Or should that be Indiscriminate?
That's why I don't trust the narrator/character who speaks these words in the song. It seems too strategised to just be simple. (IMR)
Saravanan / Kaumudi -
Negizhndhaen!!!!!!! (Kaumudi I counted 7...and every exclamation confirmed genuine appreciation...thanks!)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Sun Mar 28 13:11:27 EST 2004
I still (in the above) should read:
"I still see "indirection"....through a self-effacing statement of "direction" "
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28)
on: Mon Mar 29 14:54:44 EST 2004
1978- Part 14
We now come to the last part of the 1978 chronology, and we are left with VJ’s songs in that year with two music directors: Ramesh Naidu & Shankar-Ganesh. Let us take them up one by one:
174. Thalathalakkuthu minuminukkuthu- Mela Thaalangal- Ramesh Naidu
Ashtalaksmi Pictures’ Mela Thaalangal starred Jaishankar & Sripriya. I don’t know much else about the film, though I recall listening to the songs on radio. There were 4 songs in all:
Enadhu Vilaasam- SPB & SJ (Kannadasan)
Thalathalakkuthu- VJ (Kannadasan)
Sendhoorappottu- MV & SJ (Poovai Senguttuvan)
Aananda veenai- SPB & SJ (Kannadasan)
Of these, ‘Aananda veenai naan meettum pothu’ was the song that many may remember, as it was featured frequently on Radio Ceylon.
Ramesh Naidu’s first film as MD in Telugu was Dhaampathyam (1957/ M.R.A Productions). Prior to that, he had composed music for some Hindi Films (original/ dubbed) like Hamlet- 1954, and later two films for R.R. Productions’: Piya Milan- 1958 (remake of Marma Veeran(?), songs like ‘yaad aake hardam sathaaye’- Lata) and Jaya Singh- 1959 (dubbed from Jayasimha, songs like ‘ye chand ye taare tu ho to lage pyare’ – Manna Dey & Lata). His famous albums in Telugu include Swayamprabha- 1957, Manorama-1959, Koothuru Kaapuram-1959, Amma Maata-1971, Thatha Manavudu- 1972, Jeevitham- 1973, Radhamma Pelli- 1974, Chandana-1974, Kavita-1975, Thurpu Padamara-1976, Chillarakkootu Chittamma-1977, Sivaranjini-1978, Anukkunadi Sadishta-1978, Kalyani-1979, Antuleni Vinthakatha-1979, Andala Rasi-1979, Hema Hemeelu-1979, Sangham Chekkina Silpalu-1980, Pasupu Paarini-1980, Sujatha-1980, Muddamandaaram-1981, Jayasudha-1982, Malle Pandiri-1982, Rendu Jella Seetha-1983, Srivariki Premalekha-1984, Ananda Bhairavi-1984, Sangeeta Samrat- 1984, Suvarna Sundari-1985.
Ramesh Naidu won the National Award for Best Music Director in 1982 for his wonderful songs in Meghasandesam.
Despite his immense talent, Ramesh Naidu didn’t get many openings in tfm. Besides Mela Thaalangal, I can remember only two Tamil films for which he composed music:
Pennukku Yaar Kaaval (1980) and Devan Sedhukkiya Sirpangal (probably the dubbed version of Sangham Chekkina Silpalu-1980)
Thalathalakkuthu minuminukkuthu samuthirakkara paravai
adhu saayankaalam paarthirukkuthu aiyyavoda varavai
Godavari nadhiya paartha manasilenna ninappu?
Ada kulikkaththaane nadhiyai vechadhu Kadavuloda padaippu!
Ayya paarthu sokki nippathu nuniyil ulla karumbu-
innum adhigaama inikkum paaru adiyil ulla karumbu!
Pambaratha suththi vidinga vizhura pothu vizhattum-
oru payalai naanum thedi vaaren vararappothu varattum
Vayasirukkuthu ponnukkitte kaalaiyayum virattum--
summa vambu panninaakka rathiriyile mirattum
Inbamaaga irukkalaame enga veetukkulla--
ada indha naatil idhikku thaane velai nirutham illa!
Aavaaniyil manamudicha aaniyile pulla--
Ada adhukku neenga bayappattakka aambalayae illai!
Seems like a song sung by a street dancer (Have never seen any such street dances in real life, I suppose they come alive only in reel life!) The flute, bolstered by spirited percussion support gives the song a jaunty opening.The lyrics suggest that this dancer, while merrily performing on the streets and trying to attract passers-by with her ill-concealed charms, is also hunting for a man who has perhaps wronged her. VJ fetchingly portrays this inner intention couched in the external titillations. The whisperingly rendered ‘adhigamaaga’ in ‘Innum adhigaama inikkum paaru adiyil ulla karumbu’ is charmingly suggestive of hidden delights. Ramesh Naidu appeals in his folksy percussions and breezy arrangements with seamless shifts in tempo.
* * * *
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28)
on: Mon Mar 29 14:58:07 EST 2004
Continued:
As we had seen earlier, by the mid-70s, Shankar- Ganesh had consolidated their position as the second line MDs, and were thus flooded with opportunities to compose for many quick ‘cash- and carry ‘ ventures. Not surprisingly they churned out mostly mediocre fare. Yet they did strike the right note at times, and such occasions are worth celebrating. VJ was their favorite female singer, and they gave her many of their best compositions.
175. Srirangano Srideviyo- Meenakshi Kungumam- JC - S-G
Sri Devipriya Films’ Meenakshi Kungumam starred Vijayakumar, Sripriya, Jaiganesh, Surulirajan and others. It was written and co-produced by Rama Narayanan, while screenplay and direction were by Karaikkudi Narayanan.
I remember watching the film on TV long back- it was crude and poorly crafted. Set in a rural milieu, it was a trite tale of Sripriya marrying Vijayakumar, and bringing to justice the scheming Jaiganesh. The film was an ominous indicator of the miseries that Ramanarayanan (who incidentally completed 100 films as a director recently!) was going on inflict on us in the coming years- Sripriya had a monkey as a pal!
The film had 3 songs:
Srirangano Srideviyo- JC & VJ (Kannadasan)
Penn ninaithaal- SJ (Karaikkudi Narayanan)
Muththamma chinna chittu- VJ (kannadasan)
JC: Srirangano-- Srideviyo-
Vadivelano-- Deivaanaiyo-
yaar vandhu pirappaaro kannana en selvame
VJ: Haa--
ippothu neeye en pillai
inimele appavai pol thondrum pillai
Haa--haa--
appappo nee seiyum thollai
inimele avan seyya poraanae ennai
mundhanai melaakil kai pottu
amma paaramma paalamma enbaane--
JC: Aan pillai theraadha thollai
penn pillai peranbin ellai
Sridevi vara vendum endru
Thirumaalai varam kelu indru
VJ: Magalakkatti koduppathum thaan selavayya
maganappetha paerum panamum varavaiyya
kannan thaan-- pillai mannan thaan
JC: Adi endhan maharasi kannae
adaindhaene thunaiyaaga unnai
angeyor Madurai Meenaatchi
ingey en manaiyaale saatchi
VJ: Unnai vittu ulagam onnu ethayya
oru pirappum maruppirappum neeyayya
ennayya-- thunbam edhayya
A joyous duet that vividly etches the bliss of expectant parenthood, with the man and wife (Vijayakumar & Sripriya) wondering if their little bundle of joy is going to be a boy or girl. As usual the man prays for a daughter, while his wife wishes for a son.
S-G have nimbly blended melody and folksy themmaangu to give a song that appeals in its swift rhythmic shifts. JC starts off with his mellifluous pallavi, and VJ arrives with a bang with her breezy ‘Haa-- ippodhu neeye en pillai’. The charanams fall in line with the same pattern- JC treading the abstemious path, while VJ capers unrestrained in rustic exultation.
(Duets 1, Page 2 in Vanijairam.com)
176. Muthamma chinna chittu- Meenakshi Kungumam- S-G
An attractive solo from the same film, soaked in rustic flavour-
Muthamma chinna chittu
munnae pinnae paarthu nada--
muthamida ida poranadi akkam pakkam vetkam vara
ammadi ammadi nee aasaiyilla ponnaadi
ammadi ammadi nee aasaiyilla ponnaadi
moonu padi sakkarayil naalu padi thaen kalandhu-
muththam endru allaivechchaandi
adi ammadi saththam pottu koduthuvittaandi
adi ennavo senjaandi yevarum kaettaa sollathae
kattillo kachidhama kayithukkattil vayithukkattu
ippa naan kandu vandhendi
adi chinnamma eppo nee kaana poraedi
adi ennavo senjaandi yevarum--
Kasi Visalatchiyodu kai kalandha Paramasivam
Kaamatchi sangamam thaandi
ini eppothum Meenaatchi Kungumam thaandi
adi ennavo senjaandi yevarum kaettaa sollathae
With the sound of a village belle walking with her anklets jingling merrily, the song summons vistas of quaint rural landscapes, and VJ slips into the scheme of things so effortlessly. The lass is in love, and is wonderingly singing of the raptures that love brings in its wake, and the expectation of this love finding fulfillment in wedlock. Kannadasan sparkles as usual, especially in the last charanam, where he cleverly brings in the film’s title into the lyrics. And ‘Kavignar vazhangiya Devarin’ S-G go to town with this rural delight, temple bells added for good measure. VJ, while falling in line with the rustic ambience, enthralls in her each varied prolonging of the Pallavi lines.
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- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28)
on: Mon Mar 29 14:59:44 EST 2004
Continued:
177. Devadhai oruthi- Kamakshiyin Karunai- SPB- S-G
No clue about the cast/ crew of Anand Productions’ Kamakshiyin Karunai. We have earlier seen that KSG’s Kanchi Kamakshi was also released in 1978. Did its modest success prompt a desperate producer to make another ‘Kamakshi’ film in the same year?
S-G had given some good songs for the film, though:
Devadhai oruthi- SPB & VJ
Thoda mattum koodathu- SJ & Ganesh
Nee ariyadhadhalla- PS
Kannanukku thottil kattum- SPB & PS
SPB: Devathai oruthi bhoomikku vandhaal
kaadhal thenaatril neeraada vandhaal
oviya paavai kannukkul pugundhaal
endhan uyirodu uravaadugindraal--
uyirodu uraavaadugindraal
VJ: Devathai oruthi bhoomikku vandhaal
kaadhal thenaatril neeraada vandhaal
oviya paavai kannukkul pugundhaal
undhan uyirodu uravaadugindraal--
uyirodu uraavaadugindraal
SPB: maarbodu thaalaatum senthamarai
ingu naan oru moondraam pirai
VJ: Paarvaikku dhaagangal oraayiraam
ini naan oru andhappuram
SPB: neelakkanngal neendhum vannam
nenjil odum aasai vellam
paarvaigal aayiramo
VJ: kaadhal vanna gopuram
devan thandha kaaviyam
jaadaigal naadagamo
SPB: thendral thottum thingal suttum
kanngal pattum mullai mottu
kaadhalil aadiyadho
VJ: katti kollum kaadhalan
muththam angu thenmazhai
Kamanin oorvalamo
SPB entices with his nonchalant humming in the prelude, and begins the pallavi as well. His short humming after the third line is particularly delightful, and VJ follows with her soulful pallavi. The song is structurally singular, for it has a short first charanam, and a longer second charanam. Also both charanams vastly vary in tempo and tune. The song that was progressing unhurriedly till then suddenly surges in bursts of speed, yet deftly flows into the pallavi in the end.
( Duets 2, Page 3 in Vanijairam.com)
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28)
on: Mon Mar 29 15:01:53 EST 2004
Continued:
178. Kadhai sollum silaigal- Karate Kamala- JC- S-G
No information about Alankar Arts’ Karate Kamala. I guess an ambitious producer wanted to cash in on the immensely popularity of martial arts films like Enter The Dragon & Return Of The Dragon. I remember seeing the wall posters of movies like Karate Kamala and Jeya Nee Jeyichutte in Luz Corner, but we weren’t taken to watch such films by elders at home. Perhaps they weren’t considered fit for our consumption!
On hearing the songs, I feel that our elders were right- Karate Kamala would have most probably been a story of a girl whose lover is killed and whose modesty is outraged by a group of villains. She recovers from the trauma, and swears revenge. Perhaps she learns Karate as well, and then gradually seduces and then eliminates the bad men one by one. And there must have been ‘bits’ and pieces of steamy sequences to cheer the front-benchers too!
The songs were:
Kadhai sollum silaigal- JC & VJ
Naane oru vaettai aada vandhaen- VJ
Thenaruvi adhiloru poonkuruvi- PS
L-a-i-l-a Laila, L-o-v-e Love- LRE.
JC: Kadhai sollum
VJ: silaigal
JC: Manmathan vidum
VJ: Kanaigal
JC: moththam aruvathinaangu vagaigal
VJ: avai aann penn pazhagum aananda kalaigal
JC: kalaigal
VJ: oru maeni yaekkam kondu
perumoochu vaanga
maru meni kaigal kondu
thirumaeni thaanga
JC: saththamindri muththam ondru sindhu
nee innum konjam endham pakkam vandhu
JC: sringara leelai solli
sirikkindra sirpam angae
adharkkaana naeram kandu
malargindra pushpam ingae
VJ: ottikkandum kattikkondum konja--
indha ullam rendum ondrai ondru kenja
The heroine and her lover are on a visit to Khajuraho (perhaps on their honeymoon) And stirred by the sculpted figures, they sing this song of passionate romance. They are lost to the world in their love, but they are being watched all the while, as the change of the mood in the second interlude indicates. Perhaps their joyous world gets shattered after the song ends? (guess work here by yours truly : )
A dreamy prelude sets the mood, and JC and VJ euphoniously add fuel to the simmering passion. The ‘silaigal’ and ‘kalaigal’ repeated thrice is an added attraction. S-G have come out with a winner in this song- Kamala and her Karate skills may have found few takers, but this song lingers on in memory to this day.
(Duets 1, Page 1 in Vanijairam.com)
179. Naanae oru vaettaiyaada vandhaen- Karate Kamala- S-G
Another song from the same film- this time the heroine is on the hunt, she is seeking revenge--
Naanae--
oru vaettai aada vandhaen--
oru vaengai thaedi vandhaen--
vidivaelai thaangi vandhaen--
padhungaamal paayaadhu
puli pola ila maadhu
irayaaga unnai enni
vilayaadum vilagaathu
natta nadu kaatil kooda unnai thodarum
ettiyadhai vittathillai katti thazhuvum
ninaithaen
mudippaen
paniyaendhum rojappoo
nerungaathae mul undu
kani yaendhum kannam rendil
thigattadha kal undu
unna unna mella mella bodhai kodukkum
mannavane sorgam sella paadhai vagukkum
mayakkam
mayakkam
padammadum naagam pol
idai aadum kodi mullai
pidivaadham nenjil undu
adangaatha siru pillai
ennappadi vannakkodi thittam iduvaal
sathiyamai latchiyathil vetri peruvaal
sirippaal
jeyippaal
The chorus voices accompany VJ throughout- it is apparent it is a ‘club song’ where the heroine, disguised as a vamp, is trying to make the villain fall for her charms. As befits a climax song of this genre, S-G have filled the interludes with music that captures the suspenseful intrigue of the sequence. The ‘snake’ music in the third interlude is an intelligent insertion, for the charanam begins with ‘padamaadum nagam pol’. All the while, Ganesh makes merry on the bongos (he was playing the bongos for many years in MSV’s ensemble), while VJ pulls of this one in style- the fuming inner feelings, filigreed in the flamboyant façade find evocative articulation in her voice.
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