Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Thu May 7 17:55:45 EDT 1998.
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Hi guys,
I recently discovered this page and have been contributing extensively ever since. How about a permanent thread for discussing famous analogies: metaphors, similies, expressions, ironies, etc. in Tamil songs? For example: this would be a thread where I will share my favorite analogy for a smile, "Kaiyalavu Pazhutha Maathulai, Paalil
Neyalavu Padarntha Punnagai" from "Vizhiyilae Malarnthathu" written by Panchu Arunachalam.
As great as the discussion topics are in this site, I feel lyrics and song writers should get more attention.
A fan forever,
Udhaya
udhayak@yahoo.com
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- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tj01.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu May 14 23:36:08 EDT 1998
Udhaya:
Picchuteenga pOnga!
Analogy for Timeless Kaadhal:
Vairamuthuvin Varigal . . . .
Kodiyin pookkal ellaam, kaambu thaangum varai
Koondhal pookkal ellaam, uravu vaazhum varai
Kaadhal nilai ondru dhaanae kaattru theerum varai
Kaattru vazhi pOvadhai nAttru solgindradhu
Naettru mazhai paeydhadhai eeram solgindradhu
Kannil vazhigindra kanneer, Kaadhal solgindradhu
Ilaigal veezhadhalumae, Kilayil thiLir ulladhu
Iravu theerndhalumae, Innum nilavulladhu
Paadhi uyir pOna pOdhum, meedhi vazhvilladhu
Analogy for Kaadhal is Everything . . . .
Pazhani Bharadhi Varigal . . .
Enadhu pagalgal aval paarvaiyil
Enadhu iravu aval koondhalil
Kaalam ellam aval Kaadhalil
Kanavu kalaiya villai kaNgalil
Idhayam thudikka villai aasaiyil
Vazhum thazhum aval vaarthaiyil
Kannukkul imaiyaaga irukindraal
Nenjukkul isaiyaaga thudikindraal
- From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com)
on: Fri May 15 00:45:13 EDT 1998
Manishekaranum, Kanchanavum uLLavarai, indha
threadai padithukkondE irukkalAm polirukkiradhu.
Thodarungal ungal sEvaiyai.
Ennai kavarndha sila varigal.
Kannadasan:
"maN pArthu vaLarvadhillai
maram pArthu padarvadhillai
kanniyarum poongodiyum kannaiyAh
avar nenjilE kalangam undo sollaiyAh"
"Ayiram kaigal maRaithAlum Athavan maRaivadhillai
AnaiyittE yAr thaduthalum alai kadal Oivadhillai
Adi vA! Adi va!"
- From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Fri May 15 09:42:05 EDT 1998
mannAru:
Naan evvalavu kashtapattu Italics-la kanna
parikkuraa maadhiri muthu muthu-aa varigal
ezhudhi irukkaen, enna "roundla vittuteengalae" ? :-)))
Marubadiyum solraen ::
Macchi mannAru, yaen mansukulla romba bejjaru
- From: shyam (@ 192.147.35.56)
on: Fri May 15 10:33:47 EDT 1998
Udhaya it is really a wonderful topic.
Kanchana & Manisekaran -- oru nalla virunthu kodukettu irukkeenga. Thanks
1. lilly malarukku kontattam -- ulakam suttrum vaalivan
antha nUtrandu sirpangazum unthan pakkathilE -- vanthu nindrallum Itillai enRu pookum vetkathilE
(Rarely pricing a men's structure)
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2.ninaithEn vanthaai nUru vayathu -- kaaval kaaran
nUru nilavai oru nilavakki paavai entRen
aayiram malarai oru malarakki paarvai entRen.
kaN meenaaka maanaaka nintratavooo
nilai kannati kannam kondu aaahaa
malar kaLLuurum kinnam kondu hoo hoo
mannan thoozootu aLLi konjsum kiLLai
avaL thErotu pinni sellum mullai
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3.A classical varnanai by Kannadhasan from IruvallavarkaL "naan malarootu thaniyaaga En ingu vantheen"
nI varukinRa vazi mIthu yaar unnaik kaNtaar
un vaLai konjchum kai mIthu pari chenna thanthaar
un malark kUnthal alaipaya avar enna choannar
un vativana ithaz mIthu chumai enna thanthaar
pon vaNtonRu malarenRu mukaththOtu mOtha
nAn vaLai koNta kaiyalE methuvaka mUta
en karungkUnthal kalain thOti mEkangkaL aaka
nan payanthOti vanthEn unnitam uNmai kURa
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4.anbEva -- anbEva
vAnpaRavai than chiRakinai enakkuththanthaL
pUngkatRRE un uthaviyum enakkirunthaL
vAnaththilE paRanthu chenRE pOnavaLai azaiththuvanthE
kaathalai vaazavaippEn
azuthamukam chiriththirukka aachaikku uyir kotuppEn
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5.naan paatum paatal -- kannathaasan -- naan yeen pirantheen (patam)
thaazam puuvil kaaNum pon vannam naaLum vaazum thookai puunkannam
avaLenthan manamEtai thavaLkinra panivaatai
nizal poolun kuzalaata thaLir meeni ezunthaata
azakee un pinnal annam varum (too good)
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6.IR and SJ song
(thamiz)sangkathil paatatha kavithai ankathil yaar thanthathu
sankathil paatatha nataiyotu en munnE yaar vanthathu
kaN enrE senkaanthal malarai nee sonnal naan nambivitavO
kaal enrE sevvaazai ilaikaLai nee sonnal naan nambivitavO
mai konjam poi konjam .... kNNukkuL enn enna vativam...
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7.amala TR -- salangaiittal oru maathu
thatakatil mIn rendu thaagathil thatumaari thaamari poo meethu vizunthanaoo
ithai kanda veekathil pirammanum mookathil pataithitta paakam thaan un kaNkaLO
kaatril asanthu varum nantha vanathiru kaalkaL muzaththathendru natai poottaL
Some thing like (irantu kuththai konda puthiya thamburavai meeti sendraL)
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8.irayil payanankaLil -- TR
un maivzi kuLaththil thavazvathu meeninamoo
senkaantha malarkaL annanthu paarkkun un kaantha vizikaL
vaLaiyum neziyum mEka kuzalkaL thaakam theerthitumoo
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9.EriyilE oru kaashmir roja Enati neeratuthu -- avaL
ithaLkaLin meethu paandiya naatu muthukaL yaar thanthathu
puurana kumbam Enthi natanthaal nuulitai paavam varunthathoo
kaathalan kaikaL thaanki nantanthaal paaramum konjam kurayathoo
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Fri May 15 18:52:07 EDT 1998
I can't think of a better way for a woman to tell her lover that his love is irreplacable:
"dheivaththin maarbil soodiya maalai theruvinilae vizhalaamaa
theruvinilae vizhundhaalam vaeroar kai thodalaamaa
oru kodiyil oru muraidhaan malarum malarallavaa
oru manadhil oru muraidhaan valarum uravallavaa"
Every man in love wishes to convey the power of his lover over him, but it takes a Kannadhasan to convey it so concise and elegant:
"kaadhal enbadhu mazhaiyaanal aval kangal dhaanae kaarmaegam"
Kannadhasan describes a woman breaking free of her shackles and tasting freedom:
"kaatrukkenna vaeli kadalukkenna moodi
gangai vellam sangukkullae adangi vidaadhu
mangai nenjam pongumboadhu vilangugal aedhu"
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-to05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri May 15 19:39:55 EDT 1998
Udhaya:
The verse you've quoted from sonnadhu needhAnA starting with dheivaththin mArbil is rich in meaning and feeling, especially as sung by PS.
Back later...
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri May 15 22:30:07 EDT 1998
kaNNadhAsan on a loving husband-wife relationship in pon mEni thazhuvAmalE from yAr nee:
nAn enbadhum nee enbadhum oru rAgam allavA?
nAm ondRu sErndhu vAzhum pOdhu vArththai vEndumA?
kaNNadhAsan on "manjaL poosum azhagu" as described by an admirer in thaNNeer suduvadhenna from chiththi:
mAlai veyyil vaNNam pOlE manjaL poosum kOlam enna
manjaLOdu sErndhu endhan nenjam pOdum thALam enna?
kaNNadhAsan describing a musical laugh in engirundhO vandhAL:
sirippil uNdAgum rAgaththilE piRakkum sangeedhamE
adhil vadikkum kavidhai Ayiram avai ellAm un eNNamE
kaNNadhAsan's poetic description of an embrace in muththukkaLO kaNgaL from nenjirukkum varai:
malarndha kAdhal enna un kaigaL mAlai Avadhenna
vAzhai thOraNa mELaththOdu poojai seivadhenna
kaNNadhAsan's description of a cool, moon-lit night from padiththAl mattum pOdhumA:
thaNNilavu thEn iRaikka
thAzhai madal neer theLikka
kaNNadhAsan's varuNanai from kalangarai viLakkam:
pon ezhil pooththadhu pudhu vAnil veN pani thoovum nilavE nil
en manath thOttaththu vaNNap paRavai vandhadhu engE sol
vairamuththu's poetic description of dawn from moondRAm piRai:
vAn engum thanga viNmeengaL vizhi imai mooda
sooriyan vandhu kadal kuLiththERum nEram
vAn engilum deepAvaLi
vairamuththu on love awaiting reciprocation or rejection from duet:
en kAdhalE en kAdhalE ennai enna seiyyap pOgiRAi
nAn Oviyan endRu therindhum nee kaN iraNdaik kEtkiRAi
siluvaigaL siRagugaL reNdil enna tharap pOgiRAi
vairamuththu on the nature of love in anjali anjali pushpAnjali from duet:
kadalilE mazhai peidha pin endhath thuLi mazhaith thuLi
kAdhalil adhu pOla nAm kalandhittOm kAdhali
vairamuththu's pudhuk kavidhai definition of love in thirudA thirudA:
kaNNum kaNNum koLLai adiththAl kAdhal endRu arththam
kadalai vAnam koLLai adiththAl mEgam endRu arththam
vairamuththu's neo-classical description of a woman in love pining away in kaNNALanE from bombay:
mazhaith thuLithAn enna seyyumO
moongil kAttinil thee vizhum pOdhu
moongil kAdendRu AyinaL mAdhu
vairamuththu's prayer in puththam pudhu vAnam vENdum from thirudA thirudA:
punnagai endhan thAi mozhi endRa varam kodu
- From: Shun (@ 175-188-126.ipt.aol.com)
on: Fri May 15 22:48:46 EDT 1998
Thannilavu theniraikka is not by Kannadasan. I think it is by Maayavanaathan.
And again i may be wrong, Pon ezhil poothathu by Panchu Arunachalam.
Correct me if i am wrong
- From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com)
on: Fri May 15 23:17:44 EDT 1998
Bhaskar:
Koba padadeenga! nAma ellam oru gumbal.
ennAla manisekharanayum, kanchanavaiyum pOla
ivvalavu thrinju vachirukka mudiyAdhu.therinjAlum
maranduruvEn. adhAn appadi sonnEn. Ana adhukkunnu
ungala koRaichu solRadha eduthukka vEnAm.
Meen pidikkiradhulla neenga periya Alnu enakku
theriyAdhA enna! :)
In senthAlamboovil song kannadasan writes:
"azhagu mihundha rAja kumAri mEhamAga pOhirAl
jarigai neLiyum sElai kondu malaiyai mooda
pArkirAl"
BharathiyAr writes:
"Chuttum vizhi chudar thAn kannamma sooriya chandirarO
vatta kariya vizhi vAnathu kaRumai aLLO
kattum veLir neela pudavai pathitha nal vairam
nattaa nadu nisiyil theriyum natchathirangaladi"
- From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com)
on: Fri May 15 23:19:17 EDT 1998
Sorry for the typo !!!
"chuRRum vizhi"
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-to02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat May 16 10:10:16 EDT 1998
Shun:
You may be right on the lyricists for pon ezhil and thaNNilavu thEniRaikka. Unfortunately, I don't have an audiocassette cover or video credits to confirm the info, since I'm quoting most from memory. If you have a chance to confirm those, please educate us for future reference. Thank you.
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