Topic started by Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.162) on Wed May 17 16:39:19 EDT 2000.
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As a respite from constant bickering, I would like to try something more positive in identifying songs with similar sandhams. In rock'n roll concerts there's a tradition of breaking into medleys to cover a bunch of seemingly unrelated tunes by bridging them with unique music. Even SPB did this in his concert to cover several hits of his early years.
The object is to fit charanams of a different song to suit the pallavi of a given song. Unlike paattukku paattu, this is harder and doesn't allow for the chain to keep going. But we can all come up with like- minded songs whose charanams could suit each other. I think this will be easier for the musicians in the forum, but for those of us who aren't can train our ears better by doing this. Let's see how this plays out.
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- From: Jay Narayanasamy (@ nasdgw1.nasd.com)
on: Fri May 19 19:01:31 EDT 2000
1) Chinnaj chiru paravaiyai maRandhu vidAthE
--- Thannanth thanimaiyil Nee irunthal(I for got the first line!)
--- pAL maNam marA Pillai PolE(Hello Mr Jamidar)
2) AthOram manl Eduthu aZhakazhay Veedu Katti
--- Ayiram Ayiram AnkalilE ayya Unnai KanDene(PoranthAlum..)
3) Meetha Oru Vennai
--- saranam form Om Namaha
4) Then SIndhuthE vAnam Unai ENai thAlAttuthe
--- PILLai peRatha penami thAy AnathE(mAtha Un kolil mani Deepam..)
If it doesn't work out dont curse me :-)
- From: Venkatesh (@ ww2.ssbcd.co.om)
on: Sat May 20 02:36:53 EDT 2000
More medleys:
1) Naan Thedum Sevvanthi Poovidhu vs. Paadavandadhor Gaanam.
2) Vanna Poongavanam (Eeramana Rojave) vs. Vegam Vegam Pogum Pogum Magic Journey
- From: Kamesh (@ hlr-81-78.tm.net.my)
on: Sat May 20 22:18:17 EDT 2000
Try this
pallavi> Geetha Snageetha sangeethamae sowbaagyamae
charanam1> valarkoondhalin niram manam (oru vaanavil polae-KVG)
and end it with Nee illadha podhu yengum nenjam sollaadha kadhai nooru
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221)
on: Sat May 20 23:43:39 EDT 2000
some more songsthat can fit 'geetha sangeetha':
1. vizhiye kathai ezhuthu
2. enna solli naan ezhutha en mannavanin manam kulira
3. kadavul amaithu vaitha media
4. enna sugam enna sugam unnidam naan
- From: SL (@ snfca020-0244.splitrock.net)
on: Sun May 21 05:05:52 EDT 2000
Manithan Enbavan Deivamaagalam with the charanam of Naan nandri solvEn Yen KaNNanukku
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.26.123)
on: Sun May 21 16:31:25 EDT 2000
ennai theriyuma with naan nandri solven;)
- From: Udhaya (@ 4.18.44.138)
on: Sun May 21 19:44:59 EDT 2000
"mounamaana neram" with "niram piriththu paarthaen"
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221)
on: Mon May 22 00:29:13 EDT 2000
charanam of 'maanguyile poonguyile' is a 100% fit to pallavi of 'suttum sudar vizhi parvaayile' from siraichaalai. in fact even the raags are similiar!!
- From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102)
on: Mon May 22 05:53:50 EDT 2000
My Medley:
Pattu vanna rosavaam with Uchchi vagundheduththu, amazing how these two songs are so like each other, yet so different
Vizhiyile mani vizhiyil with Then poove poove vaa thenral theda
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.26.123)
on: Mon May 22 18:12:29 EDT 2000
Cram,
I think then poove poove has a slower tempo as compared to vizhiyile, so iam not sure whether it would fit.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9)
on: Mon May 22 20:22:42 EDT 2000
he raaja ondraaanOm indru + nEththu oruththarai orutharu paarththOm.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.26.123)
on: Mon May 22 20:25:04 EDT 2000
'waltz' type sandhams. coorect me if i err somewhere.
pallavi - 'ore naal unai naan'
charanams: en kaadhali naan pesava
does the charanam of this song have a similar sandham)
kaadhodu thaan naan paaduven
- From: Rajesh (@ ipvpn008194.netvigator.com)
on: Wed May 24 04:23:41 EDT 2000
buddhi ulla manithar
and
mEga vannam pOla minnum (Paattu paada vaa)
Udhaya: A suggestion...instead of randomly listing songs. You could perhaps suggest a song and df-ers could list out charanms that blend..
We could then go on to the next song. This way it will also be easier to build a list
- From: Udhaya (@ 209.36.218.65)
on: Fri May 26 15:21:46 EDT 2000
Rajesh,
Keeping it random doesn't necessarily limit one from listing all songs that match a given song. You can still do that. But if I turn this into specific songs, then the contribution will dwindle.
Another medley:
IR's "Kalyaana Maalai Kondaadum Pennae" with the Seergaazhi classic, "Kallilae Kalai Vannam Kandaan".
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221)
on: Sat May 27 13:57:23 EDT 2000
another classic match:
pallavi of 'karpoora bommai ondru' from keladi kanmani with charanam of 'pillai nila' from neengal kettavai. Note that both these songs were tuned to situations involving the heroine singing a lullaby.
- From: Udhaya (@ )
on: Mon Aug 21 11:24:04 EDT 2000
an unholy medley:
The charanam of "adi yennaadi pandhaadum paappaakkalae" from Uyirullavarai Usha
with the devotional from a Sivaji starrer:
"Ambigayae eashwariyae ennai aala vandhu kovil konda kungumakkaari"
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221)
on: Mon Aug 21 17:38:01 EDT 2000
Pallavi of 'snehidhane snehidhane"(excluding the srinivas part starting with "netru munn..") with charanam of 'kaatrinile varum geetham', the MS classic.
- From: SL (@ 198.95.226.224)
on: Mon Aug 21 20:36:56 EDT 2000
Pallavi of 'Kalviya selvama veerama' with the anupallavi and charanam of 'Aadi vaa aadi vaa...aada piranthavaLE...'
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.104)
on: Mon Aug 28 12:47:16 EDT 2000
Pallavi of "Dillubarujaanae" from Kalaingyan with charanam of "Dhaandiyaa Aattam" from Kaadhalar Dhinam.
- From: bb (@ )
on: Thu Apr 22 22:27:23 EDT 2004
Revive for Udhaya.
- From: Thoppus (@ 24.163.70.23)
on: Fri Apr 23 00:01:14 EDT 2004
I find the pallavis, charanams and the interludes of Oh Priya Priya from Idhayathai Thirudathey and Vaa Vaa Anbe from Eeramana Rojaave, perfectly interchangable. One of them is supposed to be in Sivaranjani and the other in Misra Sivaranjani BTW.
- From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28)
on: Fri Apr 23 03:46:02 EDT 2004
Pallavi of "naaLaam naaLam " from Kaadhalikka neramillai with the charanams of "thendraladhu unnidaththil" from andha 7 naatkal.
The opening lines of both these songs are quite close.
Pallavi of "thanimayile inimai kaaNa mudiyuma" with charanam 1 from "naan sirithaal deepavali", charanam 2 from that of "oh party nalla party dhaan" (and charanam 3 from that of "paarijaadha poovu"?).
Pallavi of "viswanathan velai vendum" with charanams of "ram bum bum"
Pallavi of "manoothu manthaiyila" with charanams of either "edhukku pondaatti" or "vandi maadu" - all from the same album
and many more..
- From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28)
on: Fri Apr 23 03:47:22 EDT 2004
Udhaya, good one to revive..
- From: Mythila (@ 15.219.201.69)
on: Fri Apr 23 04:41:24 EDT 2004
Here is another big chain from MSV's stable
All the below listed songs' pallavi and charanams can be mixed and matched
Odam kadal odum(pallavi) -> Kaadhal vilaiyaada kattil idu kanne (charanam -> paal nilavu neram paarkavillai yaarum(pallavi)->yaarum illai inge (charanam) -> kanden kalyaana pen ponra megam
An interesting feature isall these songs are sung by SPB/PS combination.
- From: Mythila (@ 15.219.201.69)
on: Fri Apr 23 05:44:48 EDT 2004
Check this out too.
"Oh vennilaave vaa odi vaa" ( Anandhakummi) pallavi with the charanam of "oru naalum unnai maravaadha " from Ejamaan. Both are SindhuBairavi based.
- From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.170)
on: Sat Apr 24 12:19:14 EDT 2004
Chittu kurivi muthuam koduthu (pallavi) followed by "Pagalinile varuvathillai iravinail etho"(Odam kadalodum -KaNmani raja)
I had mentioned this when the song was featured in SOTD.Pallavi of "Aarodum maNNil engem"from Pazhani with "Enna solli enna padum"charnam from Potri padadi from Devara Magan.
A more interesting one is Ën RagangaL ingu ellam" from Mudhal Iravu .Sing the "Sa Ni dh pa ma ga ma ga ri sa"from Colonial cousins after the first line.
Irreverance ?? Harivarsanam (Swami Ayyappan)pallavi with "thalathai ragam thodatha podhile"from SavaLe SamaLi.
After completing the charanams of Kavidhai padu kuyile from ThendraLe ennai thodu start ändharangam yavume"from 1000 Nilave vaa.
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.201.80.189)
on: Mon Apr 26 18:23:21 EDT 2004
Mythila, OISG,
Welcome to the thread. I look forward to more from you.
some more:
--"isaikkavoa nam kalyaana raagam" with "geetha, sangeethaa"
--"theerththakkaraithanilae shenbagap pushpangalae" with "vaaraayoa vaanmadhi"
--middle of "thuyilaatha pen ondru" with middle of "nilavum malarum paaduthu"
- From: Mythila (@ 15.219.201.69)
on: Thu Apr 29 07:07:53 EDT 2004
How about these Shankarabharanam based songs from ARR's repertoire?
1. Start with "pull veli pul veli" , continue the charanam and connect to
2. Poo pookum oosai athai ketka thaan aasai
poo viriyum oosai athai ketka thaan aasai and then start off the charanam of
3. Chinna chinna aasai - Setru vayakkaatil naatru nada aasai
4. pallavi of "thoda thoda malarnthathenna"
5.Charanam of "sonnaalum ketpadhillai kanni manasu"(Kaadhal Virus)
6.pallavi of Netru illaadha maatram ennadhu(pudhiya mugham)
- From: Mythila (@ 15.219.201.69)
on: Thu Apr 29 07:14:02 EDT 2004
Can IR be far behind in SB connections?
1.Start with "thene then paandi meene" and continue till the end of charanam. Then link with the pallavi -
2. Poove illaiya poove(kozhi koovuthu)
3. Link with the charanam of "Yeri karai poonkaatre" beginning like "Odi chellum vaan megham"
4. pallavi of "aala pol vela pol" (Veera)
- From: curses (@ 203.101.39.127)
on: Thu Apr 29 09:27:21 EDT 2004
Mythila..
ellam ok.. but "pul veli pul veli" is by Deva! :)
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