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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.157) on: Wed Jul 16 06:49:55 EDT 2003
  
  maddy my previous post suggested the same thing as wat u feel that a MD can do nuthin abt. such songs..... but i was responding to Mr.V@147 who suggested me to add ...sleazy bullsshit songs I mentioned to your list of IR orgasm sound songs!so o thought of adding soem ARR songs too.
  by the way uppu karuvadu is a mistake i made cos only lyrics ... muthimatta methiyila marbukku mathiyilla.. suggests it to be erotic otherwise ther is nothing erotic in that song.
  if ur respect for me had vanished i not bothered abt it.
  by the way the best erotic song of all time is IRs Nila kayuthu frm Sakalakala vallavan.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.97.159) on: Wed Jul 16 15:03:45 EDT 2003
  
  But ARR does not resort to cheap vulgar Orgasms to make his songs sleazy. I am not talking about Picturisation. I am talking about the audio alone and not the visuals.
  
  To counter all your desperate attempts to call ARR's music sleazy compared to sex sounds of IR like "Haaan" and "Hisss" I am defending each of your failed claims!
  
  Thangathamarai - He made SPB sing in a painful way! Where is the orgasm?
  
  September Madham - HOw do you know that guy is gay? This is atrocious. You know you want to just stuff up shitt here and u create your own illusions. Visuals are sleazy but the song?? The "lululululu" chant is not related to sex whatsoever!
  
  Usilampatti Penkutti - Simple tune and no orgasms! Ofcouyrse vulgar visuals like oiling of the belly!
  
  Thanneerai Kadhalikkum - Great use of synths and programming and lets the singer perform the erotic effect . Again no IR-ish orgasms.
  
  Uppu Karuvadu - We can add this to the thousands of desperate attempts you make to find fault with ARR. maddy ahas already answered this.
  
  Kokku Siva Kokku - WHats wrong with hiccups? an orgasmic sound? Compare hiccups to IR's Orgasm sounds.
  
  Hai Rama - The biggest slow number hit for ARR in Hindi. Except for picturisation nothing vulgar in the rendering.
  
  Haiyyo Pathikichu - If you call that orgasms I am sure you will cal "Humma Humma" orgasms. IR's Orgasms are very "Authentic" like his Authentic folk :) The "haaaan" and "hissss" of female singers.
  
  Rukkumani - Everybody in the theater experinces orgasms for this song?? hahah One more to the list of your depsperate attempt to mud-sling ARR. By the way Why dont you also call this song the biggest flop and add to it that ARR himself accepted it!
  
  Ramta Jogi - One of the best counter-point vocals in ARR's music. Just because the voice looks strained does not make it an orgasm.
  
  Athini Sithini - The style of singing is different from making a chitra/S Janaki make an Orgasmic "Haaan" or "Hisss" which IR loves to include in his sleaze numbers!!!
  
  Thee Thee-- One wonders what would happen to audience in bharathanatyam concert if you call 'Thala Jadhis' as foreplay signifying!
  
  Sugam Sugam - One of the forgettable ARR compositions with some sampled beats. But a bad song is not an orgasm song. I think you are talking about picturisation right??
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.97.159) on: Wed Jul 16 15:13:46 EDT 2003
  
  My post was intended to bring forth the fact that even IR composes sleazy songs not just the ones that have vulgar visuals but also vulgar sounds made by SJ and Chitra in terms of orgasms.
  
  It started of when someone pointed out that YSR composed for a sleazy TI. then rajasaranam in his usual rhetoric of only pulling ARR down said ARR composed for Fire a porn movie!
  
  In lines of these post I wanted to say that after YSR and ARR even IR has composed for sleazy films with sleazy authentic sounds too :)
  
  btw even though FIRE was an 'A' movie you will never see a single sound in the Soundtrack that signifies any vulgarity. The entire BGM is so bold and dark befitting the theme of the movie which is so unconventional in the taboo-rich Indian society.
  
  However I hate deepa mehta for her unrestricted expression of Indian cinema overseas.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.230) on: Wed Jul 16 15:29:05 EDT 2003
  
  cmon V ur still a child, compare the authenticity in IRs compostitions and ARRs compositions for love making/erotic songs
  atleast IR had the guts to do it openly with his haan and hiss sound which directly made us to know its an erotic no.
  ARRs erotisicm is subtle and not open.
  i'd prefer for direct porno to a cheap porno which keeps us in the verge to know watll happen creating vulgarity and pervertion.
  ask abt this to any psychiatrist theyd say openess is far better than keeping it closed.
  all ARRs erotic compositions had this kind of feel."viraga thabam" was very much evident in all those nos. which ive listed.
  and for the comment on bharathanatyam- its a dance form performed by thevaradiyals [frm which the word thevadiya came - meaning a whore] to call kannan for sex/love making. it was performed in temples.if u look around the temples and statues in india u can see sex evident everywhere.it was our culture man.
  as of my personal opinion ive never said its wrong read my previous posts to understand this. whether its IR or ARR if they do give an erotic song its ok.
  dont target a single person.
  bcos we all do it.
  else we wont be here to talk abt this.
  
  
• From: k (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Wed Jul 16 15:45:02 EDT 2003
  
  rajasaranam..you have some ..actually manygood points..but you need to tone down your criticism of ARR. People are more likely to accept your points then.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.230) on: Wed Jul 16 15:49:11 EDT 2003
  
  thx K for the feed back,
  but iam only retaliating to the criticisms/mud slinging done by ARR fans on IR.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.97.159) on: Wed Jul 16 16:01:10 EDT 2003
  
  I retaliated to some ridiculous claims on ARR!
  
  Now rajasaranam It was very funny to read your reference to psychiatry here! haha
  
  Another brilliant way to defend IR for his cheesy orgasm sounds! How much ever great IR is I still do not budge from my stand that his erotic impulses in sleazy songs only make us flinch! ARR on the other hand has made the singers strain their voice and has not added any orgams of any sort to make erotic songs.
  
  'Thala Jadhis' are not used in Bharatanatyam alone. I also pity the fact that you try to justify Thee Thee as a sleaze song by the following reasoning
  
  Thee Thee has Jadhis which seems erotic to you somehow
  =>Jadhis are used in Bharatanatyam
  =>Bharatanatyam dancers were into flesh trade
  
  What nonsense is this? Jadhis like "Tha" Thi" "Thai" are used in Carnatic music often. It is like saying "Thom Thom Thana" from sindhu bhairavi is a erotic song!
  
  I appreciate the fact that you accept ARR's erotic references are subtle and closed! Thats exactly my point! No direct vulgar sounds or references but still creates the drive through the voice and synths! Thats ARR!!
  
  I have already accepted that IR is very authentic but does it reach more people if he is that way? SUre it does in Tamil Nadu with respect to Tamil folk. ARR polishes them through his creativity and makes it sound international! Thats ARR to me!
  
  
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.115) on: Wed Jul 16 17:20:30 EDT 2003
  
  ur bundle of confusion V
  when i was talking abt the eroticsong thee thee u came up with defending it with barathanatyam - and when i gave u the history of barathanatyam - now ur coming up with taala jadhis being used in carnatic songs and asking me whether id term them as erotic. cmon grow up man
  frm the beginning i had been trying to defend all MDs including ARR for composing such songs and uve taken a hardcore stand against IR.good to hear that.now listen erotic is erotic whether it is subtle or open. id prefer it to be open rather than keeping it inside and creating perversion leading to become psychopaths.thats ARR ofcourse!!!!!
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Wed Jul 16 20:58:58 EDT 2003
  
  "and when i gave u the history of barathanatyam "
  
  I dont know why u gave that theory in the first place. I know that Jadhis are used in Carnatic music and also in Bharatanatyam!
  
  Now who is confused? you or me?
  
  Now answer me what is wrong in Thee Thee
  
  First let me hear that from you? Why is it vulgar? Leave the visuals again! Hhow does the Thaala Jadhis make it vulgar?
  
  Please answer this first and let us clear the confusion!
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.168) on: Wed Jul 16 22:45:10 EDT 2003
  
  Mr. Rajasaranam, if any ARR fan mudslings at IR then he is not a true ARR fan... dunt bother abt. such guys.... even V was xplaining that IR is no different in such situations from ARR... all ARR fans(from TN) have respect for IR...... we love IR too..
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 00:40:25 EDT 2003
  
  "even V was xplaining that IR is no different in such situations from ARR"
  
  EXACTLY!!!!!!!
  
  Since YSR and ARR's names were already somehow associated with erotic songs, I wanted to make sure that it does not go unnoticed that IR too has his share in erotic songs!
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.197) on: Thu Jul 17 02:14:29 EDT 2003
  
  Dear V and Maddy,
  
  We ARR fans..we respect a musician for his contribution..
  and the "other" camps main motive...is to degrade everyone else...except for the MD's sons/daugther...
  so....we will not win a single arguement....
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.123) on: Thu Jul 17 03:35:36 EDT 2003
  
  exactly paran dude.. look at that guy rajasarnam, he calls ARR a psycopath... he'll rot in hell...
  "creating perversion leading to become psychopaths.thats ARR ofcourse!!!!!"
  
  now dunt come up with misinterpretation drama rajasarnam........ apologise for calling ARR so...
  
  
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.203) on: Thu Jul 17 04:28:32 EDT 2003
  
  that was jus an rhetoric added to finish of the post as V had finished his 'Thats ARR to me'. i didnt mean that ARR is a psychopath. read the post once again to understand this.if still it means wat u interpret it to be iam sorry guys, to all ARR fans over there.
  i had been harsh towards V cos he came up with the words sleazy,cheesy,bull*shit songs when referring to IRs compostitions of erotic songs.
  now i want u to apologize. else iam going to do more mudslinging on ARR.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.203) on: Thu Jul 17 04:33:33 EDT 2003
  
  to V,
  u want to listen to wats wrong in thee thee.
  do u agree that is an erotic song or not answer this before i answer urs.
  
  

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