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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: International Krishna (@ 63.208.69.83) on: Mon Jan 21 15:33:28 EST 2002
  
  Sam, interesting. but i also found a great similarity in bach's taccato & fugue in d minor to that of vivaldi's four seasons (i think winter of spring)
  
  Karthik, i doubt KR's krishna, krishna song is copied could be inspired, but it is definitely a genius of a composition that can be enjoyed by all music peopuls around the world.
  
  regs Salil's songs, i felt that most of his compositions were best suited for south indian films because they were too rich for hindi filmi style or audience.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Mon Jan 21 23:31:39 EST 2002
  
  Listened to 'Aaadip paaru mangaaththaa' in KTV yesterday, Looks like YSR copied the beats of this song to 'Sadugudu aadaathee' from MTV,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.179) on: Tue Jan 22 11:25:37 EST 2002
  
  NagaS:
  
  Is it you?... I thought....leave it..so its you. Good.
  
  
  Don't get annoyed yaar. Just for Fun. Cool.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.243) on: Tue Jan 22 18:00:26 EST 2002
  
  Karthik S
  
  The only tom jones song I know is the cliched and ever popular "it aint unusual".. was that what you are looking for
  
  
• From: Ravana (@ 24.19.4.152) on: Tue Jan 22 21:34:17 EST 2002
  
  "Velaipookal" from Kannathil Muthamittal is inspired from "Kodai Kala Katrae" from Panneer Pushpangal.
  
  
• From: ajlg (@ 151.201.36.232) on: Tue Jan 22 22:35:21 EST 2002
  
  Bharath,
  some more famous tom jones
  Pussy cat Pussy cat where youve been.
  Come back billjoe
  Thunder ball. (007)
  She is a lady (source code for krishna krishna)
  -- there are many more i have about 5 LP records of tom jones it should be still be in my attic in chennai.
  
  
• From: kumaraguru (@ 128.241.245.34) on: Tue Jan 22 22:48:59 EST 2002
  
  Punniyam thediya in KASI is fully recycled from Nan oru sindu from sindu bhairavi movie
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Tue Jan 22 23:15:06 EST 2002
  
  Common Friend
  
  :-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Krishna is irked (@ 65.56.135.30) on: Tue Jan 22 23:16:50 EST 2002
  
  ajlg, i used a Listener method and checked out 'she is a lady' source code song. it seems compiled to be object code ' easy lover ' song by phill collins/genesis & a guest singer. but the point is try compiling those two songs together and then you may infact interpret differently. there is a serious problem is your processor and compiler. use an interpreter.
  
  
• From: ajlg (@ 151.201.37.145) on: Wed Jan 23 01:06:52 EST 2002
  
  irked krishna, it might be different to you.
  not to me..
  krishna krishna is
  she is a lady..
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Wed Jan 23 01:44:42 EST 2002
  
  Any idea who composed the music for the Abbas-Simran starrer Poochudava? One of the songs where everybody is in a picnic and sing and dance is copied ditto from Pakistani singer Sajjad Ali's song 'Chal jhooti'!
  
  Was that by Sirpy?
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 202.9.67.104) on: Wed Jan 23 02:15:29 EST 2002
  
  TILL NOW ALL THE FAMOUS RYTHM BEATS OF ARs SONGS ARE ACTUALLY COPIED !! EVEN THILLANA OF MUTHU....HE TAKES THE BEATS AND THE RYTHM AND ADDS HIS TUNES LAYER TO THOSE ...WE CAN NO LONGER BELEIVE...SOMEWHERE IN THE CORNER OF THE WORLD MIGHT BE THE ORIGINAL ...EVEN 'AYYIYYAYYOOOO'male background vocal of the song ZHUMBALIKA is a exact copy !!
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Wed Jan 23 02:29:38 EST 2002
  
  Latest recycle is by SAR the Great from the movie Kamarasu, remade from a devotional song on Tirupati Venkatesa.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Wed Jan 23 06:22:15 EST 2002
  
  Listen to the sangathi of "sollayo sollaikuyil" from "Ali arjuna" & listen to the sangathi("Marukuma maama manam,madiyile panja varnam) of "Inji idupa azhagi", u will find the similarities.
  
  Another one is from our best Cloning MD deva, the song is "kattipudu Kattipudida Kannala " from Kushi, listen to the beat of this song & now listen to "Maasi maasam alaana ponnu" from Tharmadhurai.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Wed Jan 23 06:52:55 EST 2002
  
  Karthik S,
  
  Its Sirpy !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.243) on: Wed Jan 23 14:02:30 EST 2002
  
  ajlg,
  
  //"Thunder Ball"//
  
  u know what i've had the 007, 30th anniversary casst for abt 5-6 years and I still cant recollect who sang "thunderball". If its Tom Jones I wud have registered it.. maybe I didnt..
  
  i think i still have that casst .. i'll take a look.
  
  i'll search for "she's a lady" in the web!
  
  
• From: y ?? (@ 148.87.1.171) on: Wed Jan 23 20:31:11 EST 2002
  
  A simple google search gave this for Tom Jones' song.
  http://www.mth.pdx.edu/~caughman/FunSongs.html
  
  it's down there..
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.243) on: Thu Jan 24 12:08:54 EST 2002
  
  well i listened to she's a lady and i dont think i would call it a source code copy! etc...
  
  i am sorry ajlg.. i understand what you are trying to say.. maybe similar rhythm patterns and you can actually sing krishna krishna for the same beats of "she a lady"
  
  but they arent similar enugh to suggest "copying"
  
  
• From: insider (@ 208.51.40.107) on: Thu Jan 24 14:58:19 EST 2002
  
  bharath. check here.
  
  http://www.geocities.com/jamesbondinformer/music.htm
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.13) on: Thu Jan 24 16:22:04 EST 2002
  
  thanx a lot insider.. i liked that site very much!
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 202.9.67.104) on: Tue Jan 29 01:20:56 EST 2002
  
  IR COPIED BONEY M IN THE OLD SONG "Darling darling.....I love u "
  
  
• From: O_IS_G (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Tue Jan 29 07:45:37 EST 2002
  
  Is the MSV song in thai Mugambikai by IR is a "light" version of "Pandureethi"?DOes the Raag Hamsanadham make them sound similar?
  
  
• From: Srini (@ 213.42.0.248) on: Tue Jan 29 09:22:56 EST 2002
  
  
  1.charanam from Katti Pudi katti puddida (Kushi ?)
  by Iraku master Deva
  = Nahi Nahi ,kabhi Nahi from Jawani Diwani
  
  
  2.Pattu kettu Koduthen - Film : Kaandale Satchi ; Music :Maragatamani = Bandu reeti Kolu (Hamsanadam)
  
  
  3.Song : Kalyana Sappadu Podava (TMS)
  Lines starting with ; Thangachiku pathu pulla porakunum ....
  Same as
  Song : Naan Autokaaran (Basha)
  Lines : Naan Prasavathuku illavasama varema ...
  
  4.Otha ruba tharen (the Kushbu dance song - cant remember which film)
  =
  Ennadi rakkama
  =
  Ennadi Muniyama
  
  
• From: srini (@ 213.42.0.248) on: Tue Jan 29 09:31:01 EST 2002
  
  Oho Ethanai Azagu (Athe Kangal)
  =
  Ventures instrumental (Pedal pusher, I think is the name of this song, not very sure)
  
  
• From: RR (@ 203.125.148.110) on: Tue Jan 29 22:13:39 EST 2002
  
  Click on the 'Listen to your heart' :
  
  http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Cottage/5124/Disney_Midis/pocahon.html
  
  Karthik Raja admitted this in his pongal interview on SUN TV.
  
  
• From: Copycat Deva (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Wed Jan 30 00:39:36 EST 2002
  
  Deva suttufies another song (piya piya tho) from Hindi to Vivaramana aalu.
  
  
• From: O_IS_G (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Mon Feb 4 00:13:22 EST 2002
  
  Is the song "Andha pakkam" from Puthu vasantham a copy of Hassan Jehangir's "Hawa Hawa"?
  
  Hassan Jehangir's Nikkha muta Bajra (Urudu thrinthavargal mannikka) is easily one of the great numbers in Brindavana Saranga!
  
  Just curious!RDB's "Zindagi ki ke safar" from "Aap Ki Kasam" follows the same notes as that of Nusrat's Afreen?Atleast the first line.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Feb 5 23:14:04 EST 2002
  
  Has Rahman lifted the Osibisa song 'Kelele' in Gentleman's 'paarkadhey'? Listen and decide. Song clips added in my site.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  -- Karthik
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Wed Feb 6 05:29:16 EST 2002
  
  Karthik..when I heard Gentleman's "Parkadhe" first time...I was very sure that it was from a Hindi song which I'd heard....I think you are right there..it's an adaptation from an Osibisa song...the Gentleman Pyramid cassette also had an ARR's version of some Alan Parson's Project instrumental number (or was it the Pudhiya Mugam cassette)....
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Wed Feb 6 05:29:39 EST 2002
  
  Karthik..when I heard Gentleman's "Parkadhe" first time...I was very sure that it was from a Hindi song which I'd heard....I think you are right there..it's an adaptation from an Osibisa song...the Gentleman Pyramid cassette also had an ARR's version of some Alan Parson's Project instrumental number (or was it the Pudhiya Mugam cassette)....
  
  
• From: Its Me (@ 192.11.188.113) on: Wed Feb 6 07:30:59 EST 2002
  
  Except for the first two syllables, i dont find any similarity between paakadhe and kelele. But this is mentioned as "heavily inspired" in copied.newtfmpage.com. Same is the case with the song Mellisaye, which is also tagged as heavily inspired.
  Btw, the clipping that they have for "Veesum Kaatrukku" in newtfmpage is a wrong one. It should be "Listen With your Heart - Pocahontas" which is available in I2FS site. And this is the one which has to be tagged as Heavily Inspired.
  
  
• From: kshana (@ 129.49.12.13) on: Wed Feb 6 16:26:26 EST 2002
  
  Do u guys think ARR's 'Kucchi Kucchi' has any inspiration from Hindi number 'Jai Jai Shiv Shankar' sung by Kishorda and Lataji ...cant think of the movie and composer.!!!
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.204) on: Thu Feb 7 08:54:21 EST 2002
  
  Copies which I stumbled upon:
  
  (1) mazaiye oh mazaiye from punnagai desam - from ek din beeth jaayega (kishore kumar)
  
  (2) kaatrile paattu varum from punnagai desam - recycle sivaranjini (with phrases of 'kaatrile naaNal pOla aaduvEn..nee varum paadhaiyil pookkaLaai pooththiruppEn ( aanandham aanandham)) and the ending rEvathi lifted completely from 'DevasabaathaLam' of His highness abdullah.
  
  MD = isai vasantham S.A.Rajkumar
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.211) on: Thu Feb 7 09:56:39 EST 2002
  
  MS: Listing of SAR's copies? Are you sure 24 hours in a day are enough? :-)
  
  

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