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Vidhyasagar: Making Quiet Waves

Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Tue Sep 15 17:30:29 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

In the crowded bazaar of TFM MDs, I feel Vidhyasagar has carved out a unique style for himself. Starting from Nila Pennae, he has quietly contributed a steady flow of melodies.

His "Malarae Mounamaa" a haunting melody by SPB and SJ brought him some much deserved praise. SPB sings it in every one of his concerts. I would like to know more about his other efforts besides the two or the big hits like Priyam or Karna.

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• From: Thomas (@ nb23ppp48.cac.psu.edu) on: Tue Nov 10 14:38:51 EST 1998
  
  What movie is the song "Thamara Poovukum.." from?
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Tue Nov 10 14:58:55 EST 1998
  
  thomas: pasumpon.
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-89-17.sprint.ca) on: Wed Nov 11 00:45:43 EST 1998
  
  Of his songs I think that " Malare Mounama " was the best. There's even a little story attached to that song. But I find him too monotonous. His melodious songs seem to be similar. And then those dance numbers he makes, why does he have the singers alter their voices for that kind of song. It justs makes it sound worse.
  
  Aruvi is talking??? too much!! Please find any other song than "MUKALA MUQAABLA" to contradict me. Reason : even I can't figure out how that song could have been a hit, I mean beat and music apart, Mano singing in a false voice did not make it a hit.
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-tl014.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Nov 14 20:50:19 EST 1998
  
  "anbE anbE nee en piLLai, thEgam mattum kAthal illai" from the film 'uyirOdu uyirAga' is excellent melody. Once again vidyasagar has used hariharan just that way has is supposed to be. Incredible flute and veena interludes in the song.
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Nov 15 20:41:33 EST 1998
  
  Songs from 'uyirOdu uyirAra' in
  http://members.tripod.com/~newmovies/songs/index.html
  
  
• From: YGeetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Mon Nov 16 10:35:19 EST 1998
  
  Has anyone heard songs from the film Delhi Dharbar? Vidhyasaagar has created a masterpiece in the song 'Manjalil' in the beautiful Ragam HAMSANADHAM(the one IR used in the song Thendral Vandhu Ennai Thodu and the other one in Guru). He's used the technique ARR used in Thiruda Thiruda, where the song has JATHI going alongside the beat, in a subtle and embellishing manner. I'm not sure of any other MD's have tried this technique. He has used UNNI MENON and SRI LEKHA to sing this song and they too have done justice to it. Please take a listen to this, Vidhyasaagar has created another masterpiece, like Vaarai En Tholiye. There is another song in the same movie in the Ragam Abheri/Bhimplaas.....it's also very good, but the 'Manjalil' song is JUST STUNNING and put a big smile on my face when I was stuck in an awful traffic jam and also grabbed all my attention in it's first listening.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Mon Nov 16 20:30:29 EST 1998
  
  YGeetha,
  So is the Delhi Dharbar CD worth buying? Can you give a full review of the movie's songs in the review section? Many people, myself included, would greatly appreciate it.
  
  
• From: Mano (@ mail2.site.uottawa.ca) on: Mon Nov 16 23:00:42 EST 1998
  
  Udhaya:
  I don't know It's worth it or Not! But the VS Used Sri Lega, I hope that she is new comer to Tamil and she does not sound well. VS also repeat the Then Merku Paruva Kaatru song in the movie though it sounds good! IMO, for a dubbing movie it's alright!
  
  
• From: P.Lankathas (@ spc-isp-stc-uas-06-69.sprint.ca) on: Mon Nov 16 23:06:34 EST 1998
  
  What language is Delhi Debur in
  
  
  Thanks in Advanced
  
  
• From: Mano (@ mail2.site.uottawa.ca) on: Mon Nov 16 23:10:53 EST 1998
  
  P.Lankathas:
  I think the original is in Telungu!
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Nov 17 00:17:52 EST 1998
  
  NO,
  it's a mallu movie starring mammootty and simran
  
  
• From: suresh (@ bluebird.qut.edu.au) on: Tue Nov 17 06:24:30 EST 1998
  
  Another recent Malayalam movie by VS was
  "Krishnagudiyil Oru Pranayakaalathu" starring Jayaram & Manju Warrier. The songs were a huge hit & I think VS got the last state award for this movie. From my memory, I can offhand comment that VS hasn't tried any new improvisations in this movie. He's just stuck to simple melodies & they sound very good.
  
  ? Was it VS or Maragathamani who did Bharathan's movie "Devaragam" (Arvind Swamy, Sridevi). I remember the song of Sridevi singing with deepams for its irritating voice (female) & Sridevi's miserable attempt to look a coy teenager (IMO:-)
  
  Sorry for the digression:-))
  
  
  
• From: Thomas (@ nb23ppp39.cac.psu.edu) on: Tue Nov 17 11:48:10 EST 1998
  
  Suresh:
  
  The MD for the late Bharathan's 'Devaraagam' was Keeravani. I think Sridevi pulled the role of with much grace and ease.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ cs101.cs.wmich.edu) on: Tue Nov 17 11:59:34 EST 1998
  
  and the female voice is chitra(irritating?:)) i dont think so).The song 'kaama raagam paadidum'was a great song by her in the film
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Tue Nov 17 13:04:03 EST 1998
  
  Did anyone review the songs of Thayin MaNikkodi by VS.? The movie was released only recently (and flopped) but the Audio has been around for quite sometime.
  
  
• From: easwaran hariharan (@ freedum.proxy.lucent.com) on: Tue Nov 17 14:18:39 EST 1998
  
  ravy,
  Thayin Manikodi was a moderate hit, it was released, when I was india in sep.. Songs
  are good , with 'nooru anduku orru morai' stands out from the rest. IMO, it is not as good as previous arjun/VS films lke subash, or senkottai.
  But as per the trade circles, audio is a huge hit.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: Thomas (@ pollock-53.cac-labs.psu.edu) on: Tue Nov 17 14:51:21 EST 1998
  
  Suresh:
  
  I think the MD for 'Krishnagudiyil Oru Pranayakaalathu' was Johnson not VS.....any other takers?
  
  
• From: Mano (@ ecarh29c.nortel.ca) on: Tue Nov 17 14:57:43 EST 1998
  
  Shankar:
  "Delhi Darpar" is not definitely a Malayaalam Movie. Vijaya shanthi's picture is on the album, hence I believe that it shouldln't be Malayaalam unless Vijayashanti is acting in different language other than tamil and Telungu!
  
  Cheers
  Mano
  
  
• From: RC (@ 208.156.33.82) on: Tue Nov 17 15:31:20 EST 1998
  
  I think Vidyasagar's first movie as MD is 'Yaaro ezhudiya kavidhai' - Sivakumar, Amala & jayshree and VS is the MD for Poomanam by Robert Rajasekaran.
  
  
• From: vinod (@ ) on: Thu Jan 6 13:07:51 EST 2000
  
  who has sung "noor andukku oru..." from thaayin manikodi ?
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ nscs22p2.remote.umass.edu) on: Thu Jan 6 13:32:08 EST 2000
  
  vinod: Please ask such questions in the Song stats permanent thread.
  
  
• From: RR (@ sbproxy2.mystarhub.com.sg) on: Thu Jan 6 22:33:04 EST 2000
  
  vinod: Gopal Rao & Devi
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ws55.telsoft.net) on: Sat Jun 24 11:46:46 EDT 2000
  
  His recent interview:
  
  http://www.rediff.co.in/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/TheRediffMusicShop/music_content.d2w/report?fname=2206vid.htm
  
  
• From: VS (@ wwwgate31.motorola.com) on: Sat Jun 24 12:43:45 EDT 2000
  
  Was Vidyasagar the MD for the movie "Seetha" (1988/89), directed by S. A. Chandrasekhar ?
  
  
• From: Bug (@ goliath5.primary-server.net) on: Sat Jun 24 12:57:24 EDT 2000
  
  folks,
  
  oru chinna help.
  There is one song in whihc Arjun and some mumbai model dances in rain etc...I don't know the movie..but the MD is vidya sagar.
  
  can someone throw some light on this?If this song is in the net...then can you give the link?
  Thanks nanbargale in advance.
  
  
  
  Bug
  
  
• From: jdd (@ 38.23.1.248) on: Sat Jun 24 18:30:38 EDT 2000
  
  Bug:
  Most likely it should be "Ye Shabba" from "Karna"
  B'cos, it was very popular; and, it is an inspired one from some Arabic or so
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ 203.106.110.96) on: Sat Jun 24 23:22:50 EDT 2000
  
  Karna? Karna had Sharath Kumar and Meena doing that song.
  
  Bug
  Most of Arjun movies have a song like that esp. after Gentle man. I think you are referring to Sengottai or Thayin Manikodi.
  
  
• From: SM (@ inet-fw2-o.oracle.com) on: Sun Jun 25 03:44:31 EDT 2000
  
  Kamesh,
  
  "Ye Shabba" from 'Karna' had Arjun, Yuvarani and Goundamani.
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ 203.106.110.96) on: Sun Jun 25 05:13:24 EDT 2000
  
  Oops. I thing I am confused with the movie which Suresh Peters tuned may be.Sorry.
  BTW, Delhi Durbar came as Arasiyal in Tamil I think.
  
  
• From: Manix (@ 1cust24.tnt13.fort-lauderdale.fl.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jun 25 09:11:50 EDT 2000
  
  Kamesh: You are talking about the song "Poo poova poothirukku" from "Coolie" ( Direction: P.Vasu; Music: Suresh Peters)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.193) on: Mon Jun 26 01:11:03 EDT 2000
  
  Q : A complaint against most composers is that, after a point, they get repetitive, they use bits of their own tunes again. What would you say to that?
  
  VS: Well, if I repeat myself, I think that is only natural. I mean, it is after all my creation. Look at it this way -- don't my children resemble me? They are not the same, merely similar. There are simply some points of resemblance between them. Same case with music -- maybe there is a resemblance between different tunes I compose. They might be like each other, but they won't be identical. And I think that is only natural.
  
  Comment: One makes wonder then what justification he has about the song from the film `Mr Madras' which is nothing but a mere repetition of `the way you make me feel' from the album `Bad' by Michael Jackson:-) (Broadmindedness, may be?)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.193) on: Mon Jun 26 01:22:08 EDT 2000
  
  To me Vidyasagar is no natural...each of his song is either copied or inspired; he's another Deva (could be worse)... even his much acclaimed `vennilA chandhanakkiNNam' is heavily inspired from the ARR hit `chinna chinna Asai' (not exactly the melody part, but the arrangements and the feel)...
  
  The whole point is, he takes a reference song and works on what notes to change, where minor modifications can be done etc. to make it look like a new creation...when there's time pressure, even such efforts are not taken and it shows well...take the song in `Jai Hind' where he has note-for-note copied a Punjabi song which has `hoi, hoi' after the end of each line...
  
  Check his interview where he indicates why he's not comfortable with scoring the BGM...where one needs some real musical creativity to sync the situation...In that aspect, he resembles ARR who's preference to work on songs rather than BGM is known ...
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Mon Jun 26 02:41:41 EDT 2000
  
  to compare Vidhyasagar with Deva is just atrocious. We are speaking about a talented guy whose best songs have always been original. Take 'va sakhi' from arasiyal and 'poothirukkum maname' from pudhayal for example. The rock guitar in the former was simply awesome. It was a new experience listening to these songs. Some of his interludes are amazing. He brought freshness into TFM music and his escape to the mallu world is TFMs loss. I thought he would be a potent challenger to deva for the TFM crown.
  
  Iam disappointed that he is not doing many films in TFM. agreed that he has some definitely inspired compositions but who has'nt? Has'nt ARR or IR been inspired many times either? And unlike Deva he does NOT have to rely on just inspirations alone to survive. No wonder he has been hailed as the 'ARR of malayalam film music'.
  
  

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