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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Dec 1 10:56:18 EST 2001
  
  Thanks for that AVR.
  Yes, everybody else is less talented.
  Yes, everybody else is fit for the bathroom, a non-singer, maybe average, awful, or accented.
  
  
  Your objectivity, restraint, scholarship, sense of justice is staggering.
  
  Please forgive me for my frustrated ramblings, my lack of knowledge, my disgusting views of Lata and Asha (they are supreme, invincible, noble, beyond compare),my poor debating skills, my sense of (il)logic, my obliviousness of my own contradictions...
  
  Oh, I do feel terrible. I feel like I have lost all good sense. I feel so incompetent.
  
  Thank you for making me see the TRUTH (with all its exclamations). I am so indebted to your vision, clarity, sense of purpose, mastery of argument and analysis.
  
  I REST MY CASE.
  
  Please tell LATA and all those Anti-Lata Marathas, I really, really, really did not mean what I said.
  I promise.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Dec 1 12:10:06 EST 2001
  
  Hello Neel,
  
  I am awaiting your response to my queries. This morning I played the two songs from Moondru Mudichchu:
  
  Aadi Velli - VJ PJC
  Vasantha Kaala Nadhigaliley VJ PJC
  
  The lyrics are by Kannadasan? How wonderfully he weaves in the "Gal" endings in the latter song. And VJ is perfect with her nuancing of each ending. A true gem of a song. (Reminds me of the old Kannadasan hit - PBS and PS duet: Parthaean Rasithaen Pakkam Vara Thudithaen...amazing how Kannadasan does this wordplay. He does it also in another duet of VJ-TMS: Ammannai - from the old Shivaji (I think the film flopped, but this song was very popular in the 70s)- Kanchana (?) movie: Avan Oru Sariththiram.
  
  Please get back to me about the Lottery Ticket song if you have any info. I would really appreciate that.
  
  Many thanks,
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Sat Dec 1 21:49:07 EST 2001
  
  Ammanai song, I like it very much. Great lyrics (really), very good music to support the lyrics, nicely modulating voices to enhance the tune. One of the great songs of TFM.
  Ammanai
  Azahu mihum kannmanai
  Aadi varum penn maanaith
  Thedi varum perumaanai
  ......................
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Dec 1 22:03:43 EST 2001
  
  Nambiya Penn Oru Tharagai
  Aval Nadiya Nee Oru Vanagam
  Vinnagam Mariya Pothilum
  Indha Pennagam Maruvathillaiye!
  
  Yes, VJ's extension of the Bhavam at the end of that verse on "illaiye" is miraculous.
  
  I am glad you agree Raghavan.
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: Naaz Ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Dec 1 23:24:34 EST 2001
  
  All things considered I shouldn't have bothered explaining the whole Monopoly of the Mangeshkars, after all. I just read the singers page (on Vani Jairam) which is not written by me....And it makes all the points I made. I wish I had read that before and saved myself the hassle.
  
  TFM Singers: for those interested - Look up Vani Jairam on TFM singers. It tells you (and this can only be objective as it is not one of MY postings - but one written by the editorial board of this site)about VJ training in the classical styles, her impeccable pronunciation in Hindi and Tamil (among other languages), her unterutilised talents in Tamil by IR and other MDs... AND the editorial profile states in no uncertain terms that VJ was discouraged in Bombay by other TOP singers.
  
  It also gives you a good list of her songs in the Tamil Language.
  
  Now the readers/participants of this thread can judge for themselves where the real BIAS is.
  
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.40.187) on: Sat Dec 1 23:53:18 EST 2001
  
  Naaz,
  
  I don't have any info or links to those two songs you asked about. You may want to try the "Song Stats" thread. Experts visit that thread to answer queries. http://newtfmpage.com/forum/songstats.html
  
  
  Here is some more about the songs from 'moonru mudichchu". Both of those are based on the traditional andhAdhi poetry style. Every line begins with the last word from the previous line (pallavi, charanam, all through the song).
  
  vasanthakAla nadhigaLilE vairamaNi neeralaigaL
  neeralaigaL meethinilE nenjiraNdin ninaivalaigaL
  ninaivalaigaL thodarnthu vanthAl nEramellAm kanavalaigaL
  kanavalaigaL vaLarvathaRku kAmanavan malarkkaNaigaL
  
  malarkkaNaigaL pAinthuvittAl .... and it goes on.
  
  The other song:
  
  AdiveLLi thEdi unnai nAn adaintha nEram kOdi inbam nAdi vanthEn kAviriyin Oram
  OrakkaNNil ooRa vaiththa thEn kavithai cAram ... and it goes on.
  
  They are both great songs. Just listen to how Vani begins "ninaivalaigaL" and "thalai aNaiyil". Vani begins every line at perfect pitch, she doesn't take even a fraction of a second to warm up or to rise to the note.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sun Dec 2 01:01:14 EST 2001
  
  Thanks a lot for your input Neel. I truly and really appreciate it.
  
  I wonder why you have been so awfully quiet during the "monopoly" debate and being accused of Slander when I did no such thing.
  
  Another of the less heard - but beautiful and unusual numbers by Vani is:
  
  Yen Peyare Yennakku Maranthu Pona Indha Manandharathil Yenna Peyar Solli Azhaithathu Yaar
  
  Classic MSV - Vani team work.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Sun Dec 2 09:11:44 EST 2001
  
  MSV-Vani combination songs are really good.
  "Vendum Vendum Undthan Uravu" What a song?
  
  
• From: Naaz Ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sun Dec 2 10:55:50 EST 2001
  
  There is a solo by VJ in the film 47 Naatkal (music: MSV). It was picturised on Rema-Prabha. Neel/Ragavan - how about jogging my memory by providing the opening line?
  
  Another fine SPB-Vani Duet is from the film Natakame Ullagam (music: V. Kumar): "Sapathaswaram Punnagayil Kandaen, Sangeethathin Taalatai Kaetaen"
  
  The last few moments of that number, where VJ softens the "vizhi jaalathil uruvanatho" is another memorable touch.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 63.14.0.99) on: Sun Dec 2 14:41:31 EST 2001
  
  Naaz 47 naatkaL song 'ivaL unnai ninaithe podhe madakkuvaLaiyaa'
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sun Dec 2 16:22:19 EST 2001
  
  Hi Ramki,
  
  Thanks for the feedback. Do you know of a site where I might be able to locate this song?
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ 24.4.252.80) on: Sun Dec 2 16:59:03 EST 2001
  
  Ramki:
  
  Long time no read (your postings)!
  
  Nalam Dhane!!!
  
  
  Balaji
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 63.29.85.246) on: Sun Dec 2 19:37:45 EST 2001
  
  Balaji thanks naan nalame..How are you?
  
  
  Naaz unfortunately no. Not many people are aware of these songs:))
  
  
• From: Naaz Ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sun Dec 2 21:39:33 EST 2001
  
  That is a statement (lamentable) in itself - yes?
  
  Thanks for your resourcefulness.
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.40.187) on: Sun Dec 2 23:35:58 EST 2001
  
  Select "Singer", enter "Vani", click "Go".
  
  http://www.chennaiweb.com/en/gnrl/album.php?lang=T
  
  
• From: Naaz Ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Mon Dec 3 01:49:44 EST 2001
  
  Thanks for the site, Neel D. Had not heard that Vandikaran Magan song in a long, long time. What a treat!
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Mon Dec 3 07:44:30 EST 2001
  
  Neel D:
  
  Can u tell me very briefly what are the themes/situations of the foll. songs (a brief translation of the first line)
  
  -meghame meghame
  -yaarathu sollamal
  -elluil engo
  
  All three are fantastic songs. The last song shows how effortless VJ sounds at high pitches.IR I am sure must be considering this composition a gem.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Mon Dec 3 07:45:37 EST 2001
  
  Another very delightful VJ song is thattchich chellum.... sung for MSV. Who is the person who sings "twinkle twinkle little star" in the middle.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Mon Dec 3 23:00:16 EST 2001
  
  "Thathich Chellum muthuk kannan" is very good. Listen her tone. Konjchal irukum athil.
  
  Do anyone remember a song "Oru Paadalai naan ketean" from Osai. I think Sankar Ganesh scored music for that movie. Any idea?
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.40.187) on: Mon Dec 3 23:47:40 EST 2001
  
  avr,
  
  It is a tough job to translate poetry and produce the same effect in the translation. I will try.
  
  megame megame (a huge hit when it came out) - A young woman dying from cancer, but keeps that to herself, moves to a new house with her father. There she becomes good friends with a group of young unemployed men in the neighborhood. But they don't know that she is dying. Slowly one of those young men falls in love with her. But only she knows about the impossibility.
  
  First two lines:
  "Cloud Oh Cloud, the milky moon is eroding away
  Though the body erodes its sweet light still shines".
  
  Vani will move you to tears with pAvaiyin rAgam sOgangaLO and the humming that follows.
  
  yaarathu - I don't remember the exact situation. It is a love triangle story. Singer Poornima falls in love with married man Mohan, not knowing he is married.
  
  "Who is that stranger who took away my heart,
  Womanhood that cannot bear the pain shall sing in sadness".
  
  ennuLLil engO - A modern woman marries a coutry man. Then she meets a modern man from the city and starts liking him. She expresses her forbidden desire but still enjoys the way she feels.
  
  "Inside of me, a song of yearning
  Why can I hear it, why does it bother me so much
  But still it is joyful"
  
  Very cryptic lyrics. You can sense the yearning throughout the song. The mood is Vani special.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Mon Dec 3 23:57:23 EST 2001
  
  HI,
  
  Oru Padal Naan Kaetaen was the tamil version of the Hindi Tune EK Pyaar Ka Naghma Hai from the film Shor (literal translation in tamil: Osai!)
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Dec 4 01:04:57 EST 2001
  
  Neel D,
  
  Have you heard this number: Indha kangal rendum kathal deepangal, andha kaaman thandha vannak kolangal..."
  
  From the film Vellichchthukku Vaanga (the film was a flop and disappeared without a trace.)
  
  The song was another beautiful number by VJ.
  
  There is another song from Pozhuthu Vidinjachchu (music Gangai Amaran)
  
  Kaatrae Sellu Oru Kaadhal Thoodhu...
  
  Another one of Vani's lesser known ditties - but just as alluring for it brilliance.
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Tue Dec 4 02:56:59 EST 2001
  
  There are two more good songs under GA-VJ combination.
  1. Vaa Vaa En Veenaiye
  2. Appapa Charanam Charanam Un Paathangkal (or Ammamma?)
  
  

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