Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Sun Nov 24 02:15:29 EST 2002
MS- though not very pertinent to the above posts, I thought you would like to know the singer of 'Kaadhalennum kovil'- a wonderful song, which I too love. He is Soolamangalam Murali, the son of Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Sun Nov 24 02:52:00 EST 2002
Sorry MS,
I was wrong.That post of mine called for some reciprocative reasonableness and sensitivity.Let your windows remain shut.
Unfortunatley MSV composed this song (too) to suit the situation to bring out Saritha s eccentricity and psychedelic thoughts.Had he known that people would pass remarks like "Jarring" he would have managed it with 1000 violins and a flute.
"Ketkum oliyillam Nandala NINTHAN geetham isaikuthada" -Bharathiyar alavukku ecstatic state of mind,knowledge,obsession iruppavaragal athai sollalam.
"Parkum idamellam manjalaga therigirathu" endru solbavarkku Manjal Kamalai noie thavira veru irukka mudiyathu.
PaLLathil iruppavarai medetRa sakthi kodu Iraiva!
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Sun Nov 24 03:32:01 EST 2002
MS- in the film, Saritha suffers from hallucinations of a frightening kind. MSV's interludes bring out the ramblings of her unhinged mind (all the result of a childhood trauma). Sivakumar tries to calm her and make her sleep, hence SPB's voice is suitably soothing and caressing.
I'm sure you'll appreciate that the music is entirely appropriate to the situation.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Sun Nov 24 03:33:05 EST 2002
OISG, i agree with you on the jarring part.. i think it was to bring out saritha's mental trauma, because in the same year, MSV composed "vidiya vidiya sollith tharuvEn" and "unakkenna mElE nindraai"..
that said, i don't think i can object to people having their views on the song and expressing it, just as i didn't when IR's songs were criticized. i think it is better left to us to agree or ignore, as long as the posts are not way offensive. i don't think the posts you were referring to were that offensive.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Sun Nov 24 03:57:29 EST 2002
Saravanan:
thx for the li'l info. My comment on the song is to be applicable only when the song is considered stand-alone.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Sun Nov 24 04:03:24 EST 2002
typo :
is applicable.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Sun Nov 24 04:43:19 EST 2002
bb- I too don't object when a certain 'b'ad 'b'oy often breaks my heart by referring to SJ as 'Keechu' kural! :-))
- From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34)
on: Sun Nov 24 05:26:21 EST 2002
Whoa, are we joking here or what?
OISG asserts his claim to be objective, sensitive and reasonable, and an authority of music. Why? Because he's an ARR fan, stupid.
And also because by the time you say IR, he's started to have fits. Not for a milligram of any other reason. He can be a part of the 'ARR constellation' but that only qualifies him to be the authority on TFM, IFM & world music, nothing else. Anyone who sees it any other way, may your eyes be cursed with the yellow of the jaundice or the red of the madras eye.
And you're puzzled at his tirade against MS, cant figure out why making a comment on a specific issue must bracket him to be an MSV hater, a know all with the faintest idea of music, insensitive, unreasonable, blah blah? Methinks that Rakkamma's BBC thingy has gotten him over the edge. the edge... the edge...
And that's why even when it was totally unrelated to this thread, its drift, MSV, or even MS, he had to bare his bleeding heart. Oh yes, ARR fans are allowed the supreme right to exhort people to multiple-post (anything to prevent IR, you see.. vande mataram!), OISG's randomly selective memory will convert this into a pure-IR fan hobby. He's sort of taking an advance insurance against the possibility that this song, if not topping the poll, will atleast get ahead of his idol's number. And since heaven hath no fury like this ARR fan scorned, frothing-in-the-mouth OISG waits to hit at anyone, padaiyappa save MS [or me:(].
So we shall wait with bated breath for more of harry potter prose - 'taliban', 'rip-van's army' , 'men with hidden agenda' and 'veiled, intended, sadistic offences'...
All I can ask is for a '1000 violins and a flute' to play a fitting background to the trauma of this feverish mind!
- From: Kavitha (@ 219.93.243.109)
on: Sun Nov 24 05:34:19 EST 2002
It is very apparent that this forum is very IR centred and that people like MS and bb are totally one sided in their views and deeds.
You don't have to go far, just look at the number of IR songs that are showcased as song of the day. oorukaa maathiri matra isai amaipalargalukku vaaippu.
Another example - look at their polls. Would they also do something as deragatory for IR?
It is alright to be IR centred, but to pretend to be otherwise is despicable to say the least.
What these people are doing is nothing but propaganda, aimed at bringing IR to the forefront.
Instead of these kind of backdoor entries, it would be better if they and their goons appoint a PR company to do it respectfully.
- From: Kavitha (@ 219.93.243.109)
on: Sun Nov 24 05:38:04 EST 2002
What a pathetic post by Suresh?
Just because you suck up to IR, now you need to suck up to MS and gang.
See what kind of a miserable life you lead.
Your kind will never understand holding up head in self respect.
And with this let me take my exit from this forum which obviously does not have a backbone.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Sun Nov 24 06:16:16 EST 2002
But it is nice to see "UK,Britain,BBC" have become once again become acceptable for some after a forced bout of amnesia since Webber s announcement in 2000 and the subsequent ineveitable success of BD.
Honestly i have not advocated for any ARR song voting in BBC.I would personally vote for Lenon.. Imagine or All we are saying.(I have mentioned this in the Song of the century thread already-verifiable).Atleast i do not have a hidden agenda.
Suresh,your baseless anger has sent the Johnson in you to exile.Arrange for extradition.Lets meet in some other thread.Let BB continue his good work.
BB,
Thadangalukku varundhugiren.I am off from this thread.
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 210.186.51.115)
on: Sun Nov 24 06:19:58 EST 2002
OISG is not your everyday IR basher.
He has been around quite some time and has been a valuable contributor to TFM page.
In my opinion, refering to constellation etc, is nothing short of hitting below the belt.
Having said all that, I too beleive there is merit in OISG's post.
Tell any elder about Thamizh kolai, and that too by an IR fan (considered to be a "new" MD) and the elder will simply laugh at your face.
As for orchestrations, this was IR's speciality and using that as a yardstick is not fair.
No one would compare IR's melody content with that of MSV, would they? Because THAT is MSV's speciality.
Please, let us not forget Auvaiyar's "katrathu kai mann alavu kallaathathu ulagalavu" and not pass simplistic statements.
- From: :) (@ 68.97.168.128)
on: Sun Nov 24 06:47:38 EST 2002
Kavitha,
Ur last statement was the best. Stick to it. Keep it up! And thanks!
Aalavandhan,
The tone of discussion changed (was quite provocative) only with OISG's posting. IMHO, that was unwarranted coming from somebody who "has been around some time and has been a valuable contributor". Sometimes frustration comes out. It is good that he has called to put an end to something he started.
- From: :) (@ 68.97.168.128)
on: Sun Nov 24 06:48:45 EST 2002
bb, continue the good work. Let the show go on.
- From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34)
on: Sun Nov 24 08:40:34 EST 2002
OISG, deal:) naanum joot...
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Sun Nov 24 15:04:18 EST 2002
adada..IR bashing, ARR bashing ellaam pOi ippo MS bashing, bb bashing nu vandhirucha :-) cool down folks..enjoy every SOTD...IR or MSV or ARR or any other good MD. cheers..
- From: Bala (@ 67.82.165.250)
on: Sun Nov 24 15:29:58 EST 2002
Enna sar, EpPaDi ErukKeenga..
Dhool.com_Nu sonNaaga.. Nambi Poona Thool.Com_ma Aayiduthu. NalLa Tamiz Paattu KekKalamnu partha, mukKavasi pattu link failed_Nu varathu.
I know the site is in infant stage, but enna PodareyLo athai NanNa podalamey.. Our cinna erhirParpu , AvvalavuThan.
Sorry for this kindda comment
Bala
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Sun Nov 24 23:24:22 EST 2002
Calling a song IRish is an insult to MSV ? I don't think so ...
It was just my observation on this song - I made it only after making sure that IR was already there in TFM when MSV composed this song ! We can compare this situation with some of the recent IR songs which soung ARRish ... (aduththa veduguNdu ? ;-)
NOM to MSV or IR, But what I feel is, everything is business and greats like MSV / IR are no exception - if they have to survive, they have to compose in the style which is accepted by TFM and its listeners, that could be the reason MSV composed a song which soungs IRish to me / few others and later IR was also forced to compose some songs which are not his own style and strength - If you remember, some people said there is a YSRish song in 'En Mana Vaanil' (I agree to it ;-) ...
NagaS
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Mon Nov 25 01:46:18 EST 2002
Song of the Day: endha nEramum from ??
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/endha.rm
I don't know much about this song, this might be in Ezhaavadhu manidhan. In that case, MD will be L.Vaidhyanathan. This is a bharathiyaar song, sung by KJY. KJY is at his mellifluous best in this slow song. The usage of flute is good too.
Bharathiyaar wrote this as "vaLLip paattu - 1", which can be found here: http://www.tamil.net/projectmadurai/pub/pm0012/bharathi2.html (song # 7). The second stanza is missing in the song.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Mon Nov 25 02:26:55 EST 2002
bb,
aerkanavae "vidiya vidiya solli tharuvaen" SOTD-la pottaachcha? illayina aenkkaaga andha paatta podunga.
andha paattu-kku music MSV-ya, naanu...
aiyO vaendaamayya naan varalai aattaikku
innoru paattu "mandhira punnagai minnidum maenagai" FROM manal kayiru. indha paattayum konjam..he..heee
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